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I don't think so. Paige would smother her and the only thing Paige would have to do to win is avoid the sub.
I think Rose would catch her in a sub, if she didn't out-strike her on the feet.
I don't think so. Paige would smother her and the only thing Paige would have to do to win is avoid the sub.
Indeed, most people who watch the sport picked Herrig. Most people who just compare photos of the two and add comments like, "Paige is way hotter. Would bang!" chose PVZ. Sadly, Sherdog has more of the latter, thus, PVZ won that poll by a wide margin.
@Arkain2: Asking for a coherent post from the Cybernetics is a pretty tall order. Better to just ignore and move on to better posts.
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That must be why 60% of Sherdog voted for VanZant, while Herrig got 40%. And yes, "Herrig" is how her last name is spelled.
Try to contribute something worthwhile, or atleast say something that actually make sense, the next time you enter this thread.
Too bad you missed the first round. Herrig looked decent in that round as would be expected.
She got the better of VanZant in the striking getting in some good punches. VanZant showed she's improved some but still has problems in the standup.
The clinch fighting against the fence in the first round was fairly even. Herrig took VanZant down several times and went for submissions, lost position, fought off bad positions herself. Etc. First round was actually very close but I tended to favor VanZant, mostly due to getting the better of Herrig on the ground - ultimately.
Herrig kept doing dumb stuff and was mostly spent by round 3.
After the dumb moves Herrig made in the first rounds, playing into VanZant's strengths, I figured she'd go down to defeat.
Again. Congrats on VanZant.
I've often thought well of her but its hard to say where she's at. Her last two opponents, like her first two opponents, seemed to have assumed they'd run her over. Were looking past her. Or so it seems.
No doubt Rose would out strike her on the feet, but she sure as hell isn't going to knock PVZ out and will eventually get clinched and put on the ground. As for a submission it would certainly be possible as she was close to being submitted today, but I just think Paige is too strong in her top control and it could look similar to what happened to Rose against Carla.I think Rose would catch her in a sub, if she didn't out-strike her on the feet.
Thanks a lot man, I just got home and started catching up on my DVR now, hahaha.
Oh look, time for the Official Women's Divisions' Discussions #15!
Van Zant still can't throw punches correctly standing, but she does have that Randy Couture grind it out against the fence thing going on. She is good at clinched takedowns. Would like to see her get some ground submission game going. Maybe watch Rousey videos on loop and work on armbars.
If I was the UFC I would still be giving Van Zant lower ranked fighters to fight. I think #8 Herrig was already too high to go. It worked out OK, but let her have as long a run as possible with lower echelon 115's. Give your star wins.
Vaz Zant is actually pretty dangerous with arm bars already. If you watch her against Curran, every time Curran would hit a takedown she would find herself fending off an arm bar. Vanzant's ground game is impressive. She's very athletic and fluid down there. Apart from when she gave up her back forcing that head lock throw, she dominated Herrig.
I don't think she is awesome with takedowns, although she's getting better. She's a grinder like you say. What makes her tough is her pace, high work rate and conditioning. She wore Herrig down, and Herrig is known for her strength and conditioning work.
Obviously her striking at distance has a long way to go.
Her last two opponents, like her first two opponents, seemed to have assumed they'd run her over. Were looking past her. Or so it seems.
Curran, I've heard, was ahead of VanZant on the scorecards before she got finished. Herrig survived until the end, but never won a round. So this fight raises my evaluation of Curran.
Curran, I've heard, was ahead of VanZant on the scorecards before she got finished. Herrig survived until the end, but never won a round. So this fight raises my evaluation of Curran.
Great call on Harrig. She only gave up one 10-8 round.
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