OK real conservatives, here is your chance. Denounce Trump for his deficit spending

Any leader not reasonably trying to improve the trade deficits and debt levels over a medium to long term is a twat, unless they have another master plan in place..
 
Totally agree that revenue cuts should've been offsetted with equal spending cuts. I will also add infrastructure needs have to be addressed so a large tax cut probably wasn't the best idea.
 
I consider myself a libertarian that leans slightly to the right. I'm happy to disagree with any President on issues where we don't agree.

1.) Deficit is ridiculous. 2) Federal hiring freeze directly impacted federal law enforcement. 3) Says stupid shit on Twitter and has the temper of a 12 year old. (just to name 3)

But would I vote for ANY of the current possible 2020 options on the Democratic ticket for POTUS? Absolutely fucking not.

It is nuts to me that any Libertarian would support Trump over Bernie. Bernie has a long history of fighting for civil liberties.
just FYI bernie is the biggest f@g__t, and sellout of 2016.

hillary and the DNC strong armed Bernie into shilling for her and the establishment.

he took YOUR "ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT" DONATIONS and gave them straight to the establishment.

you're weak for still supporting bernie. wtf do you think is gonna happen once the CIA / FBI / CFR sink their hooks into him? he already showed he can be controlled by the DNC. wikileaks showed he was being blackmailed. once the heavy hitting orgs dig into him, he will be a puppet working to destroy america financially.

trump (so far) has fought off his neo-con advisers and made good / ok moves. if he keeps it up he will win re-election.

Bernie made the best deal possible. He got the most economic progressive platform since the 70's, in exchange for supporting Clinton. That is how politics works, that isn't selling out, that is being a adult.

LMAO, that Trump didn't sell out to the neo-cons, that Israeli puppet doesn't take a shit without bibi's say so.
 
Totally agree that revenue cuts should've been offsetted with equal spending cuts. I will also add infrastructure needs have to be addressed so a large tax cut probably wasn't the best idea.

Not surprised Judo, i give you shit sometimes, and think you are a bit of a establishment supporter, but I never really questioned your conservative bonafides.
 
I'm not joking. The revolution is not being televised.

Bernie is a juggernaut now. The MSM is just trying to pretend that a party outsider isn't about to hi-jack the Democratic party.

Bernie will be 78 or 79.

Besides depending on which site you're using it will show Kamala Harris or Elizebeth Warren as the favorite.
 
Bernie will be 78 or 79.

Besides depending on which site you're using it will show Kamala Harris or Elizebeth Warren as the favorite.

I think if Warren runs, most Bernie supporters see a Warren/Bernie or Bernie/Warren ticket as interchangable.

If she doesn't run, Bernie becomes the clear favorite.

The difference this time is the advantages Bernie comes in with. He has built a political party apparatus that is in the weight class of the RNC or DNC, in Our Revolution. He does YouTube townhalls that outperforms Fox news and CNN. He has the name recognition of a celebrity.

Compared to 2016, this is the difference between trying to run up a mountain verse running down a slightly sloping hill.
 
Not surprised Judo, i give you shit sometimes, and think you are a bit of a establishment supporter, but I never really questioned your conservative bonafides.

Oh i am a full fledged corporate establishment supporter (although i do like your point of labor unions be a capitalist tool for the working class) -- but any way you cut it (unless its a bad recession) cutting revenue but not spending/ increasing spending is just stupid policy.
 
Viva, why don't you just move to Scandinavia?
 
Bernie is never taking office.

You need someone who can sell the Scandinavian model to the rubes.
 
I think if Warren runs, most Bernie supporters see a Warren/Bernie or Bernie/Warren ticket as interchangable.

If she doesn't run, Bernie becomes the clear favorite.

The difference this time is the advantages Bernie comes in with. He has built a political party apparatus that is in the weight class of the RNC or DNC, in Our Revolution. He does YouTube townhalls that outperforms Fox news and CNN. He has the name recognition of a celebrity.

Compared to 2016, this is the difference between trying to run up a mountain verse running down a slightly sloping hill.

Well best of luck with all that, but I see Bernie as a slightly better funded and more popular Ron Paul - just on opposite ends of the spectrum. Meaning no chance.
 
It is nuts to me that any Libertarian would support Trump over Bernie. Bernie has a long history of fighting for civil liberties.


Bernie made the best deal possible. He got the most economic progressive platform since the 70's, in exchange for supporting Clinton. That is how politics works, that isn't selling out, that is being a adult.

LMAO, that Trump didn't sell out to the neo-cons, that Israeli puppet doesn't take a shit without bibi's say so.

Trump was always on the side of Israel. You act like Trump was some sort of Libertarian that got pulled into the conservative movement when the truth is that he spent the majority of his life as a democrat and then joined the republican party.

That makes him almost the very definition of a neocon.
 
Sure, there should have been more budget cuts to keep deficits down.
 
Bernie is a Socialist first, and that just about sums up everything a Libertarian should never be, otherwise they better stop using the word "Libertarian" because they truly have no idea what it means.

I didn't vote for President Trump either, but was a damn happy he won out over Clinton? Fuck yeah.


It is nuts to me that any Libertarian would support Trump over Bernie. Bernie has a long history of fighting for civil liberties.


Bernie made the best deal possible. He got the most economic progressive platform since the 70's, in exchange for supporting Clinton. That is how politics works, that isn't selling out, that is being a adult.

LMAO, that Trump didn't sell out to the neo-cons, that Israeli puppet doesn't take a shit without bibi's say so.
 
Well best of luck with all that, but I see Bernie as a slightly better funded and more popular Ron Paul - just on opposite ends of the spectrum. Meaning no chance.

Ron was ignored by media as well but became pretty popular despite that. I think if he had run again immediately after he could have won.
 
you sound emotional, illogical and hurt. your emotions and outrage don't mean shit.

all the matters is truth, logic and reason.. bring some of that or don't bother to quote and alert me.

What truth, logic, and reason? None of that is in any of your shit posting. And is that the face your dog makes while you fuck him?
 
State funded higher education. Pensions. Labor unions. Infrastructure spending as economic policy.
If those things are important to you, why not go somewhere, where those ideas are actually being implemented and used properly?
 
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