Pence family’s failed gas stations cost taxpayers $20M+

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"The collapse of Kiel Bros. Oil Co. in 2004 was widely publicized. Less known is that the state of Indiana — and, to a smaller extent, Kentucky and Illinois — are still on the hook for millions of dollars to clean up more than 85 contaminated sites across the three states, including underground tanks that leaked toxic chemicals into soil, streams and wells.

https://apnews.com/07f9256ae1984362ba3eff192b4d6dd0

Indiana alone has spent at least $21 million on the cleanup thus far, or an average of about $500,000 per site, according an analysis of records by The Associated Press. And the work is nowhere near complete.

The federal government, meanwhile, plans to clean up a plume of cancer-causing solvent discovered beneath a former Kiel Bros. station that threatens drinking water near the Pence family’s hometown.

Kiel Bros. has paid for only a fraction of the overall effort. In court documents , the company cited payment of $8.8 million in “indemnity and defense costs,” but also noted that $5 million of that amount came from the states.

In the immediate aftermath of the bankruptcy, the state sought about $8.4 million from the company for cleanup and fines. After a new Republican governor, Mitch Daniels, assumed office in 2005, the state dropped that claim , which had been filed under Daniels’ Democratic predecessor, Gov. Joe Kernan.

In a statement, Pence’s older brother Greg Pence — who was president of Kiel Bros. when it went bankrupt and is now running for Congress as a Republican — distanced himself from the cleanup costs.

The Pence family, especially Greg Pence, has “some answering in public” to do, said A. James Barnes, an environmental law professor who served in high-ranking posts at the Environmental Protection Agency under President Ronald Reagan.

Mike Pence, then a third-year congressman, lost more than $600,000 when the company went under. He later became Indiana governor and now has assets worth between $532,000 and $1.13 million. Greg Pence, who is seeking the vice president’s old congressional seat, has total assets worth $5.7 to $26 million.

Nearly a decade after going under, Kiel Bros. sites still ranked among the top 10 recipients of state money for such cleanups in Indiana in 2013, the last year for which the petroleum industry has reliable spending data for the company. That was out of more than 230 companies seeking cleanup money that year, including major gas station chains with a substantially larger presence in the state."

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I know this is to slam Pence, but gas station in general are horrible to the environment. Having worked on several fuel pumps, the amount of fuel leaking in to the ground is completely insane. These companies give zero fucks and are always trying to skate laws and regulations to keep their projects as cheap as possible. Anyways, carry on.
 
Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor, etc.
 
So my dad had a deli/gas station
When he want d to install better pumps the epa tried to make him pay 20000 to get a better tank. With his margin on gas it would have taken 20 years to pay it off at zero profit. So he decided not to sell gas any more. They still forced him to fix the tank for 20000. So he closed the store and said fuck it.


Willing to bet this is similar.
 
Having worked on several fuel pumps, the amount of fuel leaking in to the ground is completely insane.

Some of us are conscientious and do not drip. I always give the nozzle three to four shakes while it's still inserted in the car before returning it to its holster on the gas pump.
 
Some of us are conscientious and do not drip. I always give the nozzle three to four shakes while it's still inserted in the car before returning it to its holster on the gas pump.

Technically you are using the dispenser. The pump is in the ground. Usually there will be one pump for each tank. So if there are 18 people filling their car's fuel tank with gas, each car will fill slower.
 
Rich people would dump toxic waste behind a school for blind children if they could get away with it.
 
Technically you are using the dispenser. The pump is in the ground. Usually there will be one pump for each tank. So if there are 18 people filling their car's fuel tank with gas, each car will fill slower.

I was joking. And still not sure how filling speed is relevant to either my joke or your original point.
 
Rich people would dump toxic waste behind a school for blind children if they could get away with it.

Yet, little would they realize that that toxic waste would transform those blind children into super-sensory vigilantes who would grow up to kick their plutocrat asses.

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I was joking. And still not sure how filling speed is relevant to either my joke or your original point.


Not really any difference between a joke and useless information, imo. I understood you were joking, just thought I'd take my chance to be a smart ass about it.
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Isn't that the American dream?

Multiple tax payer funded bankruptcies followed by success.

Paying for your mistakes is for poor people.
 
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