Plastic Waste: What We Can Do To Save The Planet (Now That China No Longer Imports Our Trash)

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  1. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    For the longest time, I believed that ALL the recyclable materials we drops off at the local recycling centers would be taken care of at a recycling plants in our own states, and they magically turns into new products that would make Captain Planet proud.

    I was deceived. As were you.

    As it turns out, we only cherry-pick the highest-quality stuff that's easiest to recycle with maximum returns. The rest are crushed into giant cubes about the size of your bedroom and sent off on cargo ships to China. What happens to them next is no longer our concern.

    For the record, we don't bother dealing with those low-quality recyclables not because we don't have the technology or know-how, but simply because it would cost us WAY less in labor, raw material, and energy to just produce new materials rather than recycling old materials.

    Well, that sweet deal is now coming to an end, and the world has just awakened to the new reality: we'll now have to deal with our own plastic waste.








    EU proposes ban on plastic straws and other single-use plastic products
    By Raf Casert, The Associated Press | May 28, 2018​
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    Sea Turtles with plastic straws up their noses say "It's about damn time, littering humans!"

     
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  2. OeuvrePressure

    OeuvrePressure VANILLA THUNDER

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    I see nothing wrong with this.
     
  3. Patrick Jane

    Patrick Jane Purple Belt

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    Fucking assholes are trying to limit the lives of their citizens further and further.
     
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    Good. Plastic, especially single use plastic, is a cancer to the natural world and in turn, to our health. There's not a lot that I find more depressing than going to a beach/river and seeing plastic crap all over the place.

    However, even though this is a good idea (why'd we wait so long?) I'm not sure if it's going to be sufficient at all. Microplastics might be a bigger problem long term than larger chunks.
     
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    Son of Jamin Make MMA Great Again

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    Hopefully this will be the last straw for EU's tyranny...
     
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    Son of Jamin Make MMA Great Again

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    OeuvrePressure VANILLA THUNDER

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    ... when Son makes the joke you wish you'd thought of.
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  8. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    To be fair, the "least polluting countries" on the list achieve their sterling ranks by exporting their trash to the "most polluting countries".

    That practice will soon come to an end, and is the driving force behind this ban proposal.


    Plastics Pile Up as China Refuses to Take the West’s Recycling
    By Kimiko de Freytas-Tamura | Jan. 11, 2018


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html
     
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  9. Son of Jamin

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    It's good that Chine takes such measures and as @tonni wrote, it's about time the EU acts on this issue!
     
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    Went to a McDonalds yesterday. No straws. Just a sign "PLEASE ASK FOR STRAWS AT THE COUNTER".

    Cba at all.
     
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  11. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    California has a recycling crisis.
    The only way to solve it is to stop making so much trash

    By The Times Editorial Board | May 26, 2018

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    Then I found out that most countries in the West don't even recycle their shit at all. They have been relying on China to recycle their trash for so damn long, their governments are scrambling now because they don't know what to do with their growing mountains of plastic wastes.
     
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  12. Neph

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    It's incredible what we do to our environment.

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    Fuck that's depressing.
     
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    Drinking through a straw is good for your teeth and can help prevent cavities if you are drinking cola/sprite etc.
     
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    I support this.

    For fucks sake, make them out of bamboo or hemp or something. I will pay 25 cents more.
     
  16. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    Individually retail-packaged banana!? Oh that's just fucked up. :eek:

    I'm assuming that's a British thing? The "p" is for "pence"?
     
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  17. FIMN

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    I have a good friend who is doing an econ PHD who made me see the light with green initiatives...

    Stuff like landfill - sounds fucking terrible but if you think about it, if you live in a country like australia finding a patch of land to dig a fucking huge hole to fill with crap, is far more green than shipping recycling bins off to china.

    In terms of environmentalism, the saying goes there are no right answers, only trade offs.
     
  18. Arkain2K

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    The latest idea is turning plastics and rubber into bricks.

    Imagine how many low-cost shelters can be build with the millions tons of recyclables that China no longer takes.

    They're doing it now in Colombia for a refugees center. A complete house with two bedrooms, a living room, a dining room, a bathroom, and a kitchen can be put together like giant lego pieces by four people in five days and cost less than $7000.

    If these pre-fab houses reach mass-production rates, we can say goodbye to all those flimsy canvas tents that usually pops up whenever a massive amount of refugees run away from war, or after a major natural disaster (like earthquake or tsunami) that renders an entire community homeless.


    This House was Built in 5 Days Using Recycled Plastic Bricks
    by Nicolás Valencia | May 1, 2017​


    Ten years ago when Colombian Fernando Llanos tried to build his own house in Cundinamarca, he realized that moving the materials from Bogota was going to be very difficult. After mulling it over, he decided to build his house out of plastic, and after a series of trials and errors, he ended up meeting architect Óscar Méndez, who developed his thesis on the same subject, and together they founded the company Conceptos Plásticos (Plastic Concepts) in 2011.

    The innovative local company managed to patent its system of bricks and pillars made of recycled plastic, which is then put together like Lego pieces in a construction system that lets you build houses up to two stories high in five days.

    Instead of using brand new plastic, they decided to give plastic that has already been thrown away a second chance at life, keeping in mind that on average it takes 300 years for it to completely degrade. "Working with new plastic is simple," explained Óscar Méndez to the Colombian newspaper El Tiempo, "because there are defined parameters, but used (plastic) requires more experimentation.”

    The base material they work with is obtained from popular recyclers and factories that discard tons of plastic daily. Using an extrusion process, the plastic is melted and emptied into a final mold, creating a three-kilo brick (6.6 lbs), similar to clay ones with the same dimensions. When assembled under pressure, the bricks insulate heat and have additives that retard combustion. Additionally, they are thermoacoustic and earthquake-resistance is up to code for Colombia, taking into account the country’s high levels of seismic activity.

    With a final cost of 20 million Colombian pesos (about USD 6,800) per unit, the company had the help of four people to build a 40 square meter house with two bedrooms, a living room, a dining room, a bathroom and a kitchen in only five days.


    In their meteoric rise, a major milestone for this small company (with less than 15 employees) was the construction of a set of temporary shelters in Guapi (southwest of Colombia) for 42 families displaced by armed conflict. After winning the bid from the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC), they completed the project in 28 days thanks to the joint work of 15 people, while recycling more than 200 tons of plastic.

    According to the NRC, the shelters have "a design adapted to the need for mobility and climatic conditions," and the layout of the roof "improves both ventilation and lighting allowing for suitable conditions in such a hot climate." The community project also has electrical installations, toilets, and three communal kitchens for the housed families.

    The revolutionary initiative from Conceptos Plásticos has already set its eyes abroad and won $300,000 (USD) in the latest edition of The Chivas Venture, to step up its production on a global scale, after beating out 26 other international initiatives with social impact.

    https://www.archdaily.com/869926/this-house-was-built-in-5-days-using-recycled-plastic-bricks
     
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  19. FIMN

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    That's pretty cool

    I dread to think of what our children will think of our complete disregard of the environment and their ability to live on this planet.
     
  20. uppercutbus

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    I was gonna say the same thing, it's the Chinese pollution.

    Also didn't Germany/EU say it would help generate revenue due to UK leaving the EU? Maybe that was something else.
     

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