Project Veritas: Deep State Dbags admit sabotaging POTUS, Hatch Act violations, hiding evidence, etc

[58miles]

Source that claim for us, Please...

You wanted a source here it is.
Washington Post uncovers fake Roy Moore story 'sting'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42150322

 

[lilelvis]

You wanted a source here it is.
Washington Post uncovers fake Roy Moore story 'sting'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42150322

That's old news... Ok, so WAPO didn't take the bait. That doesn't back up you claim: "Veritas & O'Keefe have been caught doctoring video & making up stories a number of times.
Less credibility than Breitbart which is quite a feat."

Try again.

 

[58miles]

That's old news... Ok, so WAPO didn't take the bait. That doesn't back up you claim: "Veritas & O'Keefe have been caught doctoring video & making up stories a number of times.
Less credibility than Breitbart which is quite a feat."

Try again.

Project Veritas trying to plant fake news last year is old news?

 

[JamesRussler]

Me too.

Veritas & O'Keefe have been caught doctoring video & making up stories a number of times.
Less credibility than Breitbart which is quite a feat.

But muh taken out of context!
He’s got videotaped admissions. You’re the one with zero credibility.

 

[SBJJ]

You wanted a source here it is.
Washington Post uncovers fake Roy Moore story 'sting'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42150322

Has absolutely nothing to do with what is being accused

 

[lilelvis]

Project Veritas trying to plant fake news last year is old news?

Back up your claim. It should be easy, right?
Show us where Veritas edited video that altered what people said. If they been so thoroughly debunked, it should be easy.

 

[58miles]

Has absolutely nothing to do with what is being accused

So previously getting caught just last year attempting to plant blatantly fake news shouldn't have impact on your credibility going forward?

 

[JamesRussler]

Project Veritas trying to plant fake news last year is old news?

You forgot that PV was “trying to plant fake news” as part of a sting. You don’t accuse cops of soliciting prostitutes when it happens during a sting, and the same principle applies here.

 

[Quequeg]

Planned parenthood videos deceptively edited.

 

[Madmick]

Project Veritas posts "Deep State Unmasked," part 1

Recently, Project Veritas founder James O'Keefe announced a new series in which he would "unmask the Deep State." Today, he made good on that promise and released a video of a State Department employee admitting to a variety of nefarious activities. For those who don't know, Project Veritas (and, by extension, James O'Keefe) is known for using undercover reporters and hidden cameras to expose hidden corruption/misdeeds, with past projects focusing on voter fraud, media bias, labor unions, border security, and other instances of fraud/corruption.

Today, O'Keefe released a video of a State Department employee, Stuart Karaffa, who, among other things, admitted to using his position to "resist everything" President Trump does at "[e]very level" of Trump's State Department, with a stated goal of "fuck[ing] shit up” for Trump. Mr. Karaffa, an official member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), also admitted to abusing his office/authority/work time in order to conduct political activities on behalf of DSA (a violation of the Hatch Act). Mr. Karaffa explained that he was "careful" not to "leave a paper trail" exposing his crimes/misdeeds, but that he was not worried because "it's impossible to fire federal employees.”

• Deep State Unmasked: State Department on Hidden Cam, “Resist Everything,” “I Have Nothing to Lose”
• State Department bureaucrat caught plotting 'deep state' resistance: Project Veritas
• DEEP STATE BUSTED! New James O’Keefe video catches State Department employee bragging about resisting Trump

View the video for yourself:



Here's the main article from Project Veritas:


As usual, Project Veritas / Mr. O'Keefe will release several installments in this "series." They will presumably follow the same format of using hidden cameras and undercover reporters to catch bureaucrats admitting to illegal/nefarious activities.

What do you think? Should Stuart Karaffa be penalized? If so, what should happen to him? Is he just a "bad apple," or is he part of a larger web of bureaucrats abusing their authority for political purposes? Discuss.

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EDIT: Project Veritas posts "Deep State Unmasked," part 2

Project Veritas has released the second installment of its "Unmasking the Deep State" series. This video features a DOJ paralegal, Allison Hrabar, reportedly using government owned software and computers to push a socialist agenda (probably another violation of the Hatch Act, among other laws). This video also features Jessica Schubel, the former Chief of Staff for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services during the last Obama administration. Both Schubel and Hrabar make admissions revealing that federal employees are using their positions in the government to resist or slow the Trump administration's policies, some breaking laws in the process.

Drip, drip, drip... it's all coming out. Here's the video:



Clearly our federal government is infested with these disgusting human cockroaches. How can we have confidence in our institutions when they've been stacked full of Socialist activists? Congress seriously needs to fumigate the federal civil service.

Appears as heavily edited and unreliable as previously exposed propaganda videos by Project Veritas.

He's admitting guilt towards the Hatch Act, but I suspect many conservative federal employees are guilty of the same behavior. They just don't have a reporter who has nothing else to do but booze up government employees while secretly recording them and prodding them to admit this sort of behavior until he eventually finds one. Guy deserves to be fired, but there's very little here.

First, dumb Trump supporters believed in the "deep state" before Trump got there that was part of this conspiracy against him. This man says that he didn't begin doing this until after all of his programs got cut which left him with free time, and he even says he doesn't turn to his stupid socialist endeavors until he's done with his actual work. He's bored with too much free time. If anything, this is an indictment of the inefficiency of bureaucracy, and I'm 100% behind that.

So anyone who would use the label "deep state" to describe this passionate idiot is being an imbecile. The reporter said he was "subverting" the will of the people, yet he said he does all his work, and only moonlights with his personal political ambitions afterwards. That isn't what "subversion" means. He isn't "sabotaging" the POTUS.

Nowhere does he suggest that he is misdirecting funds. He explains that he has to disclose his relationship to these political groups to avoid that kind of financial malfeasance, but otherwise, what he does with his time is freely his own. He works to strengthen his own political ambitions with his time, but not to "subvert" or "sabotage" the current American government's.

He needs to be fired, and perhaps prosecuted for violation of that act, but this is one little useless mouse in a field of useless mice. We just need the government. Otherwise, yawn story intended to reinforce the wild, unsubstantiated beliefs of the ignorant and easily manipulated.

 

[Ophydian]

No, it's only statists, the vast majority of which vote Democrat.

So you also believe Soros can’t be apart of the Deep State since he’s not a federal employee.

 

[JamesRussler]

Appears as heavily edited and unreliable as previously exposed propaganda videos by Project Veritas.

You have to edit down raw footage because no one wants to sit through 40 hours of irrelevant material. Let’s not regurgitate failed liberal talking points about Project Veritas- anyone with a brain can watch the video and see what went down.

He's admitting guilt towards the Hatch Act, but I suspect many conservative federal employees are guilty of the same behavior. They just don't have a reporter who has nothing else to do but booze up government employees while secretly recording them and prodding them to admit this sort of behavior until he eventually finds one. Guy deserves to be fired, but there's very little here.

You’re correct about his violations of the Hatch Act. Many other federal employees are likely guilty, and they ought to face consequences. This is exactly what the HA was enacted to prevent btw. I will also note that the HA has criminal provisions, not merely civil.

I doubt Conservative federal employees do this to any significant degree, primarily because the federal work force has an extremely small amount of conservatives (20% or less). If they do, I hope they are caught. Honestly, I just want government agencies to function in a nonpartisan way. Enforcing the HA should not be considered a partisan goal.

First, dumb Trump supporters believed in the "deep state" before Trump got there that was part of this conspiracy against him. This man says that he didn't begin doing this until after all of his programs got cut which left him with free time, and he even says he doesn't turn to his stupid socialist endeavors until he's done with his actual work. He's bored with too much free time. If anything, this is an indictment of the inefficiency of bureaucracy, and I'm 100% behind that.

So anyone who would use the label "deep state" to describe this passionate idiot is being an imbecile. The reporter said he was "subverting" the will of the people, yet he said he does all his work, and only moonlights with his personal political ambitions afterwards. That isn't what "subversion" means. He isn't "sabotaging" the POTUS.

Nowhere does he suggest that he is misdirecting funds. He explains that he has to disclose his relationship to these political groups to avoid that kind of financial malfeasance, but otherwise, what he does with his time is freely his own. He works to strengthen his own political ambitions with his time, but not to "subvert" or "sabotage" the current American government's.

He needs to be fired, and perhaps prosecuted for violation of that act, but this is one little useless mouse in a field of useless mice. We just need the government. Otherwise, yawn story intended to reinforce the wild, unsubstantiated beliefs of the ignorant and easily manipulated.

Mick, you’re going to have to do a lot better than this. It’s good that you conceded this man should be fired. However, no one believes this is an isolated incident, so don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by suggesting otherwise. You’re not going to change any minds by equivocating around the meaning of “Deep State.” You’re not going to gaslight anyone by calling it a “conspiracy theory.” Instead, you just sound like you’re in denial about the absolute state of the federal bureaucracy. These people are scum, and you should be happy they’re being exposed. With any luck, they’ll all be purged in the next few years (i.e., fired, not genocided, okay?).

Btw, a second video dropped today. Does anything in this one bother you? It describes more Hatch Act violations, and more abuse of federal resources for personal/political objectives. More to come.

 

[JamesRussler]

So you also believe Soros can’t be apart of the Deep State since he’s not a federal employee.

Correct. He has influence over many organizations (some of which contract with the government) and politicians, but Soros himself is not “Deep State” per se.

 

[Madmick]

You have to edit down raw footage because no one wants to sit through 40 hours of irrelevant material. Let’s not regurgitate failed liberal talking points about Project Veritas- anyone with a brain can watch the video and see what went down.

They opened en media res, and they're clearly not concerned with presenting unedited footage or not wasting my time because they kept jumping around while spending 3 minutes telling me what they want me to think in between the cuts.

I doubt Conservative federal employees do this to any significant degree, primarily because the federal work force has an extremely small amount of conservatives (20% or less). If they do, I hope they are caught. Honestly, I just want government agencies to function in a nonpartisan way. Enforcing the HA should not be considered a partisan goal.

Yet you have zero evidence to support this, and I doubt you can cite a single body that exists similar to Project Veritas which is wholly consumed by pursuing these "gotcha" candid vids.

Mick, you’re going to have to do a lot better than this. It’s good that you conceded this man should be fired. However, no one believes this is an isolated incident, so don’t insult everyo’s intelligence by suggesting otherwise. You’re not going to change any minds by equivocating around the meaning of “Deep State.” You’re not going to gaslight anyone by calling it a “conspiracy theory.” Instead, you just sound like you’re in denial about the absolute state of the federal bureaucracy. These people are scum, and you should be happy they’re being exposed. With any luck, they’ll all be purged in the next few years (i.e., fired, not genocided, okay?).

Btw, a second video dropped today. Does anything in this one bother you? It describes more Hatch Act violations, and more abuse of federal resources for personal/political objectives. More to come.

I didn't concede anything because I never assumed the opposite position, but it isn't even clear if he violated that law. I leave it to his superiors and the government lawyers to determine that.

You're going to have to do a lot better if you want people to believe there's actually a "deep state" instead of just one low-level bureaucrat who was happy under Obama, has more free time under Trump, and seeks fulfillment by trying to fill up his day doing what he thinks is important work.

Did they not release the entire dinner conversation uncut? It's quite telling if they didn't considering their established history where they deliberately edit these videos, present them out of context to misconstrue what the person is saying, or outright mislead the viewer into believing that person said something they didn't intend to say. Snooze button. The Van Jones video was such a bore, and clearly Russia didn't turn out to be a #nothingburger.

Now get back to clerking.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

So much lefty damage control ITT.

 

[dontsnitch]

You have to edit down raw footage because no one wants to sit through 40 hours of irrelevant material. Let’s not regurgitate failed liberal talking points about Project Veritas- anyone with a brain can watch the video and see what went down.



You’re correct about his violations of the Hatch Act. Many other federal employees are likely guilty, and they ought to face consequences. This is exactly what the HA was enacted to prevent btw. I will also note that the HA has criminal provisions, not merely civil.

I doubt Conservative federal employees do this to any significant degree, primarily because the federal work force has an extremely small amount of conservatives (20% or less). If they do, I hope they are caught. Honestly, I just want government agencies to function in a nonpartisan way. Enforcing the HA should not be considered a partisan goal.



Mick, you’re going to have to do a lot better than this. It’s good that you conceded this man should be fired. However, no one believes this is an isolated incident, so don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by suggesting otherwise. You’re not going to change any minds by equivocating around the meaning of “Deep State.” You’re not going to gaslight anyone by calling it a “conspiracy theory.” Instead, you just sound like you’re in denial about the absolute state of the federal bureaucracy. These people are scum, and you should be happy they’re being exposed. With any luck, they’ll all be purged in the next few years (i.e., fired, not genocided, okay?).

Btw, a second video dropped today. Does anything in this one bother you? It describes more Hatch Act violations, and more abuse of federal resources for personal/political objectives. More to come.

You know what gets me more than the editing? It's the fact that we have a man who claims to have earth-shattering corruption within the Government, and then he has the balls to dole out the information in "installments", a little bit at a time like it's some performance piece, as if this were a Netflix special or something.

You know what I would do if I recorded some high-level corruption? I would release the unedited tape for all to see without inserting myself in the story.

 

[Quequeg]

Rubes believe it and pay for it.

 

[lilelvis]

You know what gets me more than the editing? It's the fact that we have a man who claims to have earth-shattering corruption within the Government, and then he has the balls to dole out the information in "installments", a little bit at a time like it's some performance piece, as if this were a Netflix special or something.

You know what I would do if I recorded some high-level corruption? I would release the unedited tape for all to see without inserting myself in the story.

That wouldn't be very effective considering the general public has a 30 second attention span.

 

[JamesRussler]

You know what gets me more than the editing? It's the fact that we have a man who claims to have earth-shattering corruption within the Government, and then he has the balls to dole out the information in "installments", a little bit at a time like it's some performance piece, as if this were a Netflix special or something.

You know what I would do if I recorded some high-level corruption? I would release the unedited tape for all to see without inserting myself in the story.

He obviously does that to keep the story in the media longer. Yeah it would be nice to have it all at once, but we know how easy it is for MSM to bury inconvenient stories.

As for the commentary, it’s absolutely necessary. A lot of the misconduct here isn’t immediately apparent to a layperson who doesn’t know the laws and regulations governing federal employee conduct. And trust me, no one is going to watch hours of raw footage just to hear a few minutes worth of juicy statements. My only criticism of PV’s production is the background setting. Why is it being filmed in an abandoned warehouse? Is that some kind of new hipster aesthetic?

 

[dontsnitch]

That wouldn't be very effective considering the general public has a 30 second attention span.

Right, so he obviously cares about publicity enough to sacrifice some of his integrity. It's enough for me to raise an eyebrow considering the truth here is more than enough to carry you.