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i don't think 2018 is going to go well for republicans. maybe i'm wrong though.
the left are foaming at the mouth ready to vote.
the left are foaming at the mouth ready to vote.
100% this. And now look where we are.Obama had 6 months with a veto proof majority. Once McConnell made his famous comments of obstruction, Obama should have shoved every piece of legislation he could down the Republicans throats for those 6 months.
I might be wrong here, but I think he meant the incumbent as in who is the president. Historically whomever is president their party takes a pasting in the first election cycle after they are inaugurated. Hence why people think the Democrats will take it.Not all the seats are up for election this year. 9 Republican seats and 26 Democrat Senatorial seats are being voted on. If it is a slaughter for incumbents all around, that seems to bode well for the Republicans.
I thought Dems were far too optimistic a few months back, because their platform currently is hysterical rage, which doesn't play well outside motivating the party's base. I also think their needless antagonism is equally motivating their opponent's base. Now I think Republicans are becoming too optimistic. We've seen midterms before where the party in power lost majorities in a good economy with decent polling.
I suspect Dems gain seats in the House and lose a few in the Senate, but Dems miss a majority in the House and Republicans don't get a veto proof Senate.
Those voters are indeed why Trump won, but they are a small %, that pushed the GOP over the top.
The vast majority of GOP voters in midterms are baby boomers.
Out of the baby boomers you know. How do most traditional Republican baby boomer voters feel about Trump in your experience?
Obama had 6 months with a veto proof majority. Once McConnell made his famous comments of obstruction, Obama should have shoved every piece of legislation he could down the Republicans throats for those 6 months.
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Democrats haven't learned that they can't always play nice. Obama was particularly bad about that, despite having the best intentions.Obama had 6 months with a veto proof majority. Once McConnell made his famous comments of obstruction, Obama should have shoved every piece of legislation he could down the Republicans throats for those 6 months.
I'm thinking democrats will vote like a stampede of raging impeach-asaurus's. I guess we'll see if that happens and if it makes any difference.if the economy continues to sail along, i'm unclear what it is that will really rally the Democratic party to the polls. that's what it will take, you know? there is no news or revelation that seems capable of denting Mr. Trump's support amongst the faithful.
100% this. And now look where we are.
I'm thinking democrats will vote like a stampede of raging impeach-asaurus's. I guess we'll see if that happens and if it makes any difference.
Democrats haven't learned that they can't always play nice. Obama was particularly bad about that, despite having the best intentions.
That's why the Democratic route of "taking the high road" and playing fair has been an absolute mistake and its time to play hardball. But might be too late.
Derail noted, derail ignoredC'mon dude. The exact opposite is true. Are Republicans harassing Democrats in public? Are Republicans refusing to serve Democrats? Did a Republican try to shoot an entire baseball team of Congressional Democrats? Are Republicans rioting in the streets? No, of course not. Democrats are guilty of that almost exclusively. Centrists, moderates, and other "swing" voters are put off by the shrill cries of "the Resistance."
Derail noted, derail ignored
It's hard to say, but the trend in all the primaries so far has been a pretty significant increase in turn out across the board for the dems.I think Republicans will do the same. The question is where will they vote? Will Dems be as enthusiastic in MI and WI as they are in CA and NY?
It's hard to say, but the trend in all the primaries so far has been a pretty significant increase in turn out across the board for the dems.
MI and WI are months away from primaries, though.
ahoy Viva,
Mr. Obama's problem wasn't really the Republicans. it was the Blue Dogs.
it was their throats that he had to shove legislation down.
he didn't do that. the Blue Dogs got massacred in the mid terms anyway.
a tactical and political error by the young POTUS.
- IGIT
'afternoon Viva,
among the baby boomers i know (whom i mostly know only professionally) this is the vibe i get;
"I don't agree with everything he says, but he makes sense alot of the time"
i live in a relatively affluent, banking city. there's signs of expansion and growth all over the place...and Charlotte is still a southern city.
i sense the same thing i've sensed for the last year.
the left is divided and outraged.
democratic centrists are also outraged.
moderates in the GOP are cowed into compliance.
ditto the evangelicals.
ditto fiscal conservatives.
ditto Ron Paul libertarians.
Mr. Trump's support, such that it is, seems ironclad. as a matter of fact, his popularity has been on a steady upswing since last November.
the Democrats, to my way of thinking, really mistook the message of Roy Moore's defeat. progressive issues are not what the folks of Alabama rallied to - they just couldn't quite vote for someone accused of being a pedophile.
it was not an "issues" win.
if the economy continues to sail along, i'm unclear what it is that will really rally the Democratic party to the polls. that's what it will take, you know? there is no news or revelation that seems capable of denting Mr. Trump's support amongst the faithful.
- IGIT