Roy Moore: last time America was great , was during the slavery era.

[TheGreatA]

Why do people automatically assume he meant the slavery era? Moore was talking to a black person, and his statement in the middle is an attempt to placate the person who asked the question, by acknowledging that America also committed wrongs in its past. So he wouldn't come off as just acting like America used to be flawless. The fact that he chose to bluntly say "slavery", and associate it with America's "glorious" past, instead of "well, some bad stuff that went down for black people back in the day", is actually surprisingly progressive on his part.

If he had meant that America was great when there was slavery, then he would've said that America was great when we had slavery. Not when we had "unified families". That's an era that extends to atleast the 1960's, by most conservative people's estimation. Before the deemed "dis-integration" of the nuclear family.

You cannot really judge a spoken statement in the written form, without hearing it in context. The whole "gotcha" games that are being played by both parties in America, are just ridiculous and intellectually dishonest.

 

[Gandhi]

If you think someone is violating forum guidelines, report the content

Exactly if you want to clean up the forum you need to follow the example of @HomerThompson

 

[HomerThompson]

The weather next week in Alabama will favor Moore because it's supposed to dip into the teens.

 

[TheGreatA]

If you ignore his ramblings about God, it's obvious from the footage from the event that he's trying to make some sort of a statement about racial and political unity, and refers to Abraham Lincoln as a unifier, along with the Founding Fathers being "fallible".

https://www.snopes.com/2017/12/08/controversial-roy-moore-remarks-resurface/

 

[Thecyborgmj23]

Never drive through Alabama after the sun goes down! Have you not seen Wrong Turn?

 

[squeezewax]

The main focus of what he was saying was about family values. Anyway he is old and out of touch with the real world.
BTW All christians are unintelligent.

 

[Madmick]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/roy-moore-last-time-america-234233620.html


What is it with rightwing Christians and White supremacy. Not the first time Moore has expressed support for White supremacy. The Southern Baptists were noticeably quiet on Civil Rights or downright supportive of segregation. Pat Robertson and Falwell never supported the Civil Rights movement. Christian cultural chauvinism and White supremacy has a strong overlap.

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Any of you rightwing Christians want to defend Moore here?

At a campaign event earlier this year, an audience member asked Moore for his opinion on when the last time America was "great." Moore responded: "I think it was great at the time when families were united—even though we had slavery—they cared for one another…Our families were strong, our country had a direction."

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What are the odds he would say the same thing if Whites were ones enslaved.

Somehow I doubt he will lose any support from conservative Alabamians because of his comment; heck they probably support him even more!

I'm happy to defend him against spurious sexual assault charges, but he's eating his own foot with shit like this.

Perfectly acceptable to not vote for the man based on his politics rather than a Gloria Allred-engineered scarlet letter warlock hunt.

 

[Juventud]

Never drive through Alabama after the sun goes down! Have you not seen Wrong Turn?

Seriously underrated horror movie. Those were some messed up inbreds. Prime Eliza Dushku.

 

[BangersAndSmash]

Never drive through Alabama after the sun goes down!

Never drive through it while the sun is still up.

In fact, you'd be doing yourself a real favor if you just never drove through it at all.

 

[Ice That Jaw]

He is dismissive of it. He thinks the last time America was great was when slavery existed. So he doesn't have an issue with slavery. Doesn't think it was bad.

He sure as fuq wouldn't be saying that if the slaves were White / his ancestors.

So White family values is the only think that counts huh? Cause Blacks were brutalized and raped in the same period, but that doesn't matter to some people.

It is also pretty dam stupid to say there was a downgrade in family values after slavery.

Cry me a river. The average person doesnt give a shit about dead slaves. Do you cry over the other millions of tortured souls throughout history? Of course you don't. Bigot.

 

[WTF2008]

You can do what ever you want here.

 

[WTF2008]

Blank and blah blah

 

[Phisher]

If you ignore his ramblings about God, it's obvious from the footage from the event that he's trying to make some sort of a statement about racial and political unity, and refers to Abraham Lincoln as a unifier, along with the Founding Fathers being "fallible".

https://www.snopes.com/2017/12/08/controversial-roy-moore-remarks-resurface/

Okay Broseph, let's see you spin this one:







For the constitutionally illiterate among us, the 13th amendment abolished slavery.

The 14th amendment clarified the status of black Americans as US citizens in the wake of the Supreme Court's Dred Scott decision. The amendment is also the basis of all civil rights legislation for protected minority groups.

The 15th amendment outlawed prohibition of the right to vote based upon an individual's race.

The 19th amendment guaranteed women the right to vote.

This guy is a fucking loon who rejects any part of US law that contradicts his bigoted worldview. The fact that this motherfucker was chief justice of the Alabama supreme court on more than one occasion is a fucking testament to how backwards that shithole of a state is.

 

[GriftyMcGrift]

he also speaks a bit of russian, likes putin and admits the US isnt the nicest of countries either (when being compared to the soviet union) guess what one of the atrocities the US has committed that he is referring to...

 

[Phisher]

he also speaks a bit of russian, likes putin and admits the US isnt the nicest of countries either (when being compared to the soviet union) guess what one of the atrocities the US has committed that he is referring to...

Here's a hint: it's the same "atrocity" that led to his second ouster from the Alabama supreme court.

 

[GriftyMcGrift]

Here's a hint: it's the same "atrocity" that led to his second ouster from the Alabama supreme court.

so im watching the video and it gets to that part, i think well he does have a point and wonder which one of the things he's gonna mention

CIA intervention in 3rd world countries?
Economic Blackmail?
Targeted assassinations/killings?
Drones?
Corporate Imperialism?

oh gay marriage...oh ok

 

[Phisher]

Okay Broseph, let's see you spin this one:







For the constitutionally illiterate among us, the 13th amendment abolished slavery.

The 14th amendment clarified the status of black Americans as US citizens in the wake of the Supreme Court's Dred Scott decision. The amendment is also the basis of all civil rights legislation for protected minority groups.

The 15th amendment outlawed prohibition of the right to vote based upon an individual's race.

The 19th amendment guaranteed women the right to vote.

This guy is a fucking loon who rejects any part of US law that contradicts his bigoted worldview. The fact that this motherfucker was chief justice of the Alabama supreme court on more than one occasion is a fucking testament to how backwards that shithole of a state is.

Forgot one. 24th amendment outlawed poll taxes.

 

[TheGreatA]

Okay Broseph, let's see you spin this one:

For the constitutionally illiterate among us, the 13th amendment abolished slavery.

The 14th amendment clarified the status of black Americans as US citizens in the wake of the Supreme Court's Dred Scott decision. The amendment is also the basis of all civil rights legislation for protected minority groups.

The 15th amendment outlawed prohibition of the right to vote based upon an individual's race.

The 19th amendment guaranteed women the right to vote.

This guy is a fucking loon who rejects any part of US law that contradicts his bigoted worldview. The fact that this motherfucker was chief justice of the Alabama supreme court on more than one occasion is a fucking testament to how backwards that shithole of a state is.

Getting rid of those amendments wouldn't be a bad idea from my perspective because they are essentially covered already in the previous ones.

They were needed for a time to impose racial/gender equality, but since we've stepped further and further away from those times, they seem kind of silly in retrospect. There's going to be a time when we will look back and have a laugh over needing a specific amendment to abolish slavery or to tell people that people of different race/gender have equal rights as citizens.

Countries which do not need to specifically tell people through their constitution that they don't practise slavery, that people with different skin color will be treated the same under the law, that women have voting rights, aren't usually as hyper-sensitive regarding race or gender as the Americans have grown to be. Those sorts of things are just seen as common sense, modern ideas that don't necessarily need to be written on a piece of paper to be remembered. When the constitution speaks of equal rights for citizens, it's understood by now that citizen means exactly that, citizen, and not merely citizens with a particular skin color.

Americans on the other hand seem to be forever stuck in their greasy race wars, slavery, and other sorts of divisions.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Never drive through Alabama after the sun goes down! Have you not seen Wrong Turn?

 

[FIMN]

Getting rid of those amendments wouldn't be a bad idea from my perspective because they are essentially covered already in the previous ones.

They were needed for a time to impose racial/gender equality, but since we've stepped further and further away from those times, they seem kind of silly in retrospect. There's going to be a time when we will look back and have a laugh over needing a specific amendment to abolish slavery or to tell people that people of different race/gender have equal rights as citizens.

Countries which do not need to specifically tell people through their constitution that they don't practise slavery, that people with different skin color will be treated the same under the law, that women have voting rights, aren't usually as hyper-sensitive regarding race or gender as the Americans have grown to be. Those sorts of things are just seen as common sense, modern ideas that don't necessarily need to be written on a piece of paper to be remembered. When the constitution speaks of equal rights for citizens, it's understood by now that citizen means exactly that, citizen, and not merely citizens with a particular skin color.

Americans on the other hand seem to be forever stuck in their greasy race wars, slavery, and other sorts of divisions.

I mean this is all well and good to assert, but republicans are introducing legislation for the specific purpose of suppressing the minority vote.