Sexual harassment claims have gone too far.

[Islam Imamate]

I had one who wanted me to fuck her while holding a gun in her mouth. She had some serious issues.

Yikes, maybe she was trying to frame you or some shit. Or maybe she really was that fucked in the head.

 

[Fawlty]

Yikes, maybe she was trying to frame you or some shit. Or maybe she really was that fucked in the head.

Without going into details you're spot on, something like that eventually happened. Certifiable, that one.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Without going into details you're spot on, something like that eventually happened. Certifiable, that one.

I hope the pussy was worth treading on that minefield.

 

[Fawlty]

I hope the pussy was worth treading on that minefield.

Wasn't bad at all, but it wasn't "crazy sex" kind of good.

 

[tonni]

Duty seems to me the right word

Forget that duty in a marriage and youve got problems. Since its a 2 way street the word doesnt seem to be so dirty ya know ?

You married ? Longest you ever been with someone ? There is indeed plenty of negotiating room like fawlty said and I think you might not get it is all

When you are married No doesnt mean no But that doesnt mean you got in dry like someone else mentioned but you do have a duty to your spouse to please them and cant just be telling them no all the time like thats the end of the conversation

You guys are insane if you think your wife telling you she isnt in the mood is the end of it or you are some kinda creep

Jesus, where do you people get your education? Serious question, where do you get all this info from?

Nobody ever has the duty to please anyone. You can work on having a healthy sex life without the term "duty" ever having to be used.

You're insane if you think pressuring your wife into sex is healthy and not coercion. Can't believe I'm having this conversation with adults.

 

[tonni]

Because I don't believe in playing your PUA games and using coercion? Because i respect her words when she utters them? So seeking actual consent is being a feminist now? Not sure how that is a bad thing. I just find that any relationship were you have to play mind games to get them to fuck you is not a real or satisfying relationship. I want a mutual partner, one as interest in me as i am in them. Not someone i have to coerce..

Some people are just on a different frequency. A couple of years ago I thought they would've been trolling or muslim with the "it's my wife's duty to please me" talk. Pickup artist culture indeed.

 

[tonni]

Yup.
He thinks all women are 100% the same and they all want the exact same approach from every man and that is some type of joint approach to sex where everything happens in unison. In his view a man or woman can never be horn before the other and ready before the other and try to convince the other.

Explain in detail how you try to convince your wife into having sex with you, and try not to use any coercion.

 

[forum poster]

I work with a 6 ft 5, 220lb gay guy. I'm going to get him to introduce himself to TS at a bar someone then get him to grab him on the ass. I'm sure he won't feel as though it's harassment, according to his own standards.

 

[Space]

 

[franklinstower]

I work with a 6 ft 5, 220lb gay guy. I'm going to get him to introduce himself to TS at a bar someone then get him to grab him on the ass. I'm sure he won't feel as though it's harassment, according to his own standards.

This is the only way to get these guys to see reason. No empathy means they need to experience it for themselves.

 

[tonni]

I work with a 6 ft 5, 220lb gay guy. I'm going to get him to introduce himself to TS at a bar someone then get him to grab him on the ass. I'm sure he won't feel as though it's harassment, according to his own standards.

would be an epic fail. TS is not only a sexually successful intellectual, he's most likely an expert martial artist too. probably ex-military.

 

[Metusalemi]

Jesus, where do you people get your education? Serious question, where do you get all this info from?

Nobody ever has the duty to please anyone. You can work on having a healthy sex life without the term "duty" ever having to be used.

You're insane if you think pressuring your wife into sex is healthy and not coercion. Can't believe I'm having this conversation with adults.

There was a court case in France couple years ago where man was forced to pay his wife for "not fulfilling his maritial duties". (Sexually)

I try to find link later.

 

[Son of Jamin]

There was a court case in France couple years ago where man was forced to pay his wife for "not fulfilling his maritial duties". (Sexually)

I try to find link later.

A Niçois man has been fined €10,000 for not making love to his wife often enough

FOR only the second time in France a husband has been fined for not fulfilling his marital duties with sufficient regularity.

A 51-year-old Niçois, only referred to as Louis B, was fined €10,000 damages for not making love to his wife enough during their 21-year marriage, reports the French national media this week (even though the case dates to May).

The judgement was part of divorce proceedings, and the lack of bedroom activity was also accepted as proof that the break up was entirely the husband’s fault.

Mr B. justified himself by saying he had health problems and chronic fatigue due to difficult working hours, however this did not convince the court, said Le Parisien.

The decision was based on article 215 of the Civil Code, which says that a husband and wife should have a “shared life”, which the judge said implied they would have sex together.

According to Europe 1 radio the only other case dated to 2000. A lawyer told the station that the decision was justified by French law, but usually in such cases the husband refuses to admit the facts, which are hard to prove.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/Archive/Husband-fined-For-lack-of-sex

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[tonni]

There was a court case in France couple years ago where man was forced to pay his wife for "not fulfilling his maritial duties". (Sexually)

I try to find link later.

France.

 

[Metusalemi]

France.

Your point?

 

[tonni]

Your point?

What was yours? French court system doesn't have a good track record. I disagree massively with that case.

 

[Metusalemi]

What was yours? French court system doesn't have a good track record. I disagree massively with that case.

You asked "where do we get this?"

And you said "Nobody has the DUTY to please anyone."

My point was to answer your claim.

 

[tonni]

You asked "where do we get this?"

And you said "Nobody has the DUTY to please anyone."

My point was to answer your claim.

So you got it from the French courts and their sentencing turned it into universal morality?

 

[Metusalemi]

So you got it from the French courts and their sentencing turned it into universal morality?

You're the one who made the claim of universal morality. Not me.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Explain in detail how you try to convince your wife into having sex with you, and try not to use any coercion.

What are you a voyeur looking for porno like details to get off on?

I've explained exactly how it plays out in so many instances upthread. It could be something as simple as her being grumpy because of something random that happened in the day and saying 'I am not in the mood' and you make her a drink, put on one of your favorite songs and you as see her relaxing you get her up to dance, all alone there in your living room. She's not yet in the mood but she knows you are and people DO respond and get aroused by knowing their S.O is aroused.

So now you have taken someone who was saying 'no, not in the mood' (because they were not as they were angry) and you have convinced them gently to change that.

For me with my ex wife, simply dancing with her was almost always a sure thing. It was easy foreplay. to you that probably all sounds horrible and abusive as you seem to believe everyone always needs to be in the same place from the onset or sex should never happen.