Sherdog PC Build/Buy Thread, v6: My Power Supply Burned Down My House

[jefferz]

I need to get a new cpu but the drops in price keep having me changing my mind and waiting. Was about to get an r51600, then a 2600 and now the 1700x prices are making me think r7 again.

Really not in too much of a hurry, but want to upgrade before doom eternal comes out

And waiting on new amd gpu also since historically doom seems to run better on amd gpu’s.

My current system is still hanging in there but it’s not as fast as I would like.
R3 1200/970 gtx
16gb 3200
Etc

If you’re thinking about upgrading, now is the time. Just like Madmick said, we’re seeing record low prices on a lot of components.
Coming up in January, another 15% tariff goes into effect. Keep that in mind.

 

[jefferz]

Microcenter is getting aggressive with the sales. The R7-1700X is up now for $149:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/485473/ryzen-7-1700x-34-ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor

Spoiler: $840 Core Hardware Build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TBZ3Bb

• R7-1700X
• Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 ATX Motherboard
• GTX 1070 Ti 8GB (MSI Duke)
• 16GB DDR4-3000 MHZ RAM (Team Vulcan)
• 500GB Samsung 860 EVO
• 2TB Seagate Constellation 7200RPM
• Corsair CX750M V2
• Rosewill Challenger
  $842 (after $65 in rebates)

The 1700x is down to to $139 at Micro Center. If you would have told me 2 years ago that we’d be able to buy an 8 core 16 thread cpu for that price I would have told you that you were nuts.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/485473/ryzen-7-1700x-34-ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor

 

[90 50]

You're at 1080p, right?
https://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=35637&game=Doom Eternal
Looks to me like you're okay.

The RX 590's are already out and on sale, but your GPU is fine at 1080p, and that wouldn't be much of an upgrade:
https://www.newegg.com/Video-Card/EventSaleStore/ID-452?

If you do buy, I don't think the right move is to wait past Black Friday, and probably not even until then. The PC component sales posted so far are a joke-- just garbage. On the other hand, sales from the past few weeks have been freaking exceptional. We didn't get anything like this last November. The two options we forwarded to IronKhan (the build blueprint and the PowerSpec prebuild) are ungodly. Haven't been able to assemble a blueprint system like that for a price that low, ever, and easily the best values we've seen in two years-- probably since the late summer of 2016. IIRC, prices that holiday season weren't great, and then the cryptosurge ballooned just before Ryzen was released in Feb-2017; kept GPU prices ridiculous since then. Before Ryzen you simply didn't see that kind of CPU value because of the core-shift. SSD prices plummeted, but Case and PSU prices have been inflated, and RAM prices have been godawful due to the global shortage.

Everything seems to have collapsed in price, here, at the beginning of November. Perfect storm. Unfortunately, that eBay sale on the R7-1700X for $150 (without the CPU cooler) just lapsed earlier today. Fortunately, Platinum Micro is still selling it through eBay for $170 (and this seller has a better reputation than Newegg, anyway). Doubt you will see a price much better than this for the rest of the year:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/312266834512

Best options for a CPU cooler right now are either the aforementioned Deepcool GAMMAX 400 ($17 after the $10 rebate from OutletPC) or the Hyper 212 LED ($25 from either Newegg Business or Amazon; this is just the Hyper 212 EVO with an LED fan).

You can't connect them directly with a Cat5. Use the router to mediate. If you can hook both of them into a router using ethernet you're golden. Just set up a Home Network (Google will teach you the steps), and once you do, it's a drag-n-drop copy operation. It will transfer the files from the old PC to the new PC over the LAN. It copies at SATA speeds. It will transfer the entire PC's contents in a matter of hours, or overnight if it's really big.

The 1700x is 139.00 at my microcenter right now and -30.00 with mobo purchase so that would put it at 109.00.

Pretty smoking deal.

2600 is 149 and 2600x is 189

And the r7 1800x which i don’t even remeber is 199.99.

All with the -30.00 with mobo purchase.

Because of my case cooling issues I’m throwing and aio on soon, maybe before cpu and mobo upgrade but probubaly not till.

My mobo doesn’t have enough fan headers and I can’t get hot air out fast enough. When gaming I have the top panel off or sometimes side panel. And on all other times it’s fine.

So I’m not worried about fan cpu coolers at this time.

I got an extra case fan and then realized I don’t have anymore fan ports. Need a splitter at the very least.

 

[Madmick]

The 1700x is 139.00 at my microcenter right now and -30.00 with mobo purchase so that would put it at 109.00.

Pretty smoking deal.

Looks like this sale went up shortly after my post. Well, you were thinking about upgrading, and that CPU is what's on the bubble for DOOM Eternal. This is the one for you. In fact, this is the one for anybody lucky enough to live near to a Microcenter. Don't hesitate. Go pick that up. Even if that somehow miraculously gets beaten, and it won't, there's no way it gets beaten by a significant amount. This is what I'm talking about with these early November sales. These sales are crazy. In fact, Microcenter doesn't have an official adscan flyer for Black Friday, yet, but they are showing the R5-1600 will be $129.99 for their "3 Day Black Friday Sale", so they definitely aren't poised to one-up this.

Furthermore, take the motherboard combo. Those bundled savings (-$30) are usually offset by the opportunity cost of taking the best market price for any given motherboard against what Microcenter is charging, but I peeled through their MoBos, quickly, and I noticed the ASrock B450 Fatal1ty Gaming K4 ATX mobo is actually $14 cheaper than the cheapest current price from an online vendor (Amazon or Newegg Business). I checked, and the bundled savings automatically register in the cart, so it is compatible.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/509728/fatal1ty-b450-gaming-k4-am4-atx-amd-motherboard
vs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pq...-gaming-k4-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-k4

No CPU Cooler, but that puts you at $189.98 for the CPU + MoBo Combo (before tax).

Spoiler: Obviously merchants didn't anticipate these prices, either. Here was Microcenter's 2017 Adscan for Black Friday

$229 for the R7-1700X a year ago.

Just scavenge the guts of your current rig. You'll kick down hard drives as you upgrade drives, anyway. So it won't take much to restore that R3-1200 with its MoBo to a full rig you can use as an HTPC or something.

 

[90 50]

Looks like this sale went up shortly after my post. Well, you were thinking about upgrading, and that CPU is what's on the bubble for DOOM Eternal. This is the one for you. In fact, this is the one for anybody lucky enough to live near to a Microcenter. Don't hesitate. Go pick that up. Even if that somehow miraculously gets beaten, and it won't, there's no way it gets beaten by a significant amount. This is what I'm talking about with these early November sales. These sales are crazy. In fact, Microcenter doesn't have an official adscan flyer for Black Friday, yet, but they are showing the R5-1600 will be $129.99 for their "3 Day Black Friday Sale", so they definitely aren't poised to one-up this.

Furthermore, take the motherboard combo. Those bundled savings (-$30) are usually offset by the opportunity cost of taking the best market price for any given motherboard against what Microcenter is charging, but I peeled through their MoBos, quickly, and I noticed the ASrock B450 Fatal1ty Gaming K4 ATX mobo is actually $14 cheaper than the cheapest current price from an online vendor (Amazon or Newegg Business):
https://www.microcenter.com/product/509728/fatal1ty-b450-gaming-k4-am4-atx-amd-motherboard
vs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pq...-gaming-k4-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-k4

Spoiler: Obviously merchants didn't anticipate these prices, either. Here was Microcenter's 2017 Adscan for Black Friday

$229 for the R7-1700X a year ago.

Just scavenge the guts of your current rig. You'll kick down hard drives as you upgrade drives, anyway. So it won't take much to restore that R3-1200 with its MoBo to a full rig you can use as an HTPC or something.

I don’t need to purchase anything but a cheap psu to build a complete functional rig with the r3 , but I might chunk a super cheap ssd in it to make it more appetizing.

I have a spare 500gb hd and a 8gb stick of 3k ddr4
1050 ti and a couple cases.

For mobo’s I need to see what they have I need a micro atx, unless I use my new fractile case which is atx mid tower that I was saving for a threadripper productivity build at some point.

I want a mobo that has internal WiFi instead of using the usb I have now(it’s pretty dang fast for usb however)
And want more pci-e slots for a gpu and a capture card.

But I might have to use an atx case for that. I’m not seeing any micro mobo’s that have enough slots for that.

I really like my little case on my desk but guess i might need to put my new case to use for that.

 

[90 50]

Also the 2600 is 149, I can’t see buying a 1600 for 129 when the 2600 is 20.00 more.

 

[90 50]

Fuck, with these 1700x etc deals it’s almost tempting to go buy their asses out of them.

Pick up a bunch of cheap used 1050/970’s etc(100.00 price point)

And slam out some builds and throw them up for sale.

Need to do some quick maths real quick.

 

[Madmick]

So when prices get this low it really is hard not to dick around just seeing the maximum value you can assemble. I just had to see what I could do with that Microcenter combo:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J4QZvn
Holy krike that's a legit 1440p ultrawide gaming rig-- with the luxury of a 1TB SSD for pure SSD storage-- at an $883 base total after the $20 rebate is subtracted, and counting the unavoidable $3 shipping cost to any residency, but before potential variable tax is considered. Alternatively, the Samsung 860 EVO is $72.99 straight up on Newegg or Newegg Business, right now, and of course there is the cheap 250GB/256GB SSD + HDD strategy.

• R7-1700X
• Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED
• ASRock B450 Fatalt1y Gaming K4 ATX
• MSI GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Armor OC
  
• 2x8GB G. Skill Ripjaw V DDR4-3600 CAS16 RAM
• 1TB SanDisk Ultra 3D 2.5" SSD
• Corsair CX750W V2
  
• Rosewill Challenger ATX Case, Black
• No OS included

The GTX 1070 Ti is only ~5% inferior to the GTX 1080 in games. Wasn't it just 8 months ago that the lowest prices we were seeing on any GTX 1070 Ti model were running over $600 by themselves?

Spoiler: Yeah. Yeah it was

GTX 1070 Ti

GTX 1080

 

[treelo]

So i have one, and it is making a lot of noise.

Cooler Master 240 i think i have, do they just ship with shitty fans?

I have adjusted stuff a bit on the BIOS, but it still isnt great, do i just need to but better fans?

 

[jefferz]

So i have one, and it is making a lot of noise.

Cooler Master 240 i think i have, do they just ship with shitty fans?

I have adjusted stuff a bit on the BIOS, but it still isnt great, do i just need to but better fans?

Are you talking rattling noise or they sound like a jet all the time?

 

[treelo]

Are you talking rattling noise or they sound like a jet all the time?

Not rattling, just noisier than i would like. They arent super noisy, but its annoying me as i didnt have them working properly until yesterday(ie. my pc ran for 6 months+ with no cooling) and had no problem with overheating issues.

Ive been advised stock CM fans are a bit junk...is it worth spending out on better fans or not basically?

Its only for the noise, the machine obviously doesnt have any problems if it has ran for 6 months with no cooling.

 

[weed]

this isn't really video game related but more so PC related.

I've been on a ThinkPad craze this past year or so. because I've had all these parts left over in my apt accumulated for years. so I started rebuilding these laptops, selling them & shit.

but it's been fun rebuilding these fuckers.

I've always had a few laptops just for fuck's sake, but as of now, my laptop inventory includes:

x240 - i7 128gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1tb hdd 16gb RAM
t430s - i5 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb FireCuda SSHD + (Ultrabay) 2tb BarraCuda hdd 16gb RAM
t530 - i7 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb hdd + 16gb RAM
w530 - i7 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb BarraCuda HDD 32gb RAM
t540p - i5 64gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1.5tb hdd 16gb RAM

s1 yoga 12 - i5 256gb ssd 8gb RAM
s1 yoga 12 - i7 128gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 2tb hdd 8gb RAM (on this right now)
s3 yoga 14 - i5 240gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1tb hdd 8gb RAM
yoga 260 - i5 256gb m.2 (80mm) ssd + 8gb RAM
yoga 460 - i5 240gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 2tb FireCuda 16gb RAM

& in my graveyard currently I have like 6 t430(s)', t440, t450, t470, yoga 11e, 3 s1 yogas, a bunch of x220, x230, x240, x250s, 4 s230u (Twists).

anyways, not gloating or whatever. I literally just sat down to organize & kind of get a grasp of what I have & need to get rid of. but what I can offer in relation to this thread is that I've done extensive testing with a LOT of m.2 (2242/42mm) ssds. these are the most expensive of the m.2 bunch & people go crazy for these.

these are just a few of the bunch I have on hand & that I've tested. if yous guys have any questions about which m.2s I found to be worth buying, feel free to ask away. I went into my testing free from all the online reviews & wanted to judge them from my own personal experiences, professionally & leisurely. I even tested the horrible Chinese brands haha.

/nerd rant

 

[jefferz]

this isn't really video game related but more so PC related.

I've been on a ThinkPad craze this past year or so. because I've had all these parts left over in my apt accumulated for years. so I started rebuilding these laptops, selling them & shit.

but it's been fun rebuilding these fuckers.

I've always had a few laptops just for fuck's sake, but as of now, my laptop inventory includes:

x240 - i7 128gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1tb hdd 16gb RAM
t430s - i5 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb FireCuda SSHD + (Ultrabay) 2tb BarraCuda hdd 16gb RAM
t530 - i7 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb hdd + 16gb RAM
w530 - i7 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb BarraCuda HDD 32gb RAM
t540p - i5 64gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1.5tb hdd 16gb RAM

s1 yoga 12 - i5 256gb ssd 8gb RAM
s1 yoga 12 - i7 128gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 2tb hdd 8gb RAM (on this right now)
s3 yoga 14 - i5 240gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1tb hdd 8gb RAM
yoga 260 - i5 256gb m.2 (80mm) ssd + 8gb RAM
yoga 460 - i5 240gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 2tb FireCuda 16gb RAM

& in my graveyard currently I have like 6 t430(s)', t440, t450, t470, yoga 11e, 3 s1 yogas, a bunch of x220, x230, x240, x250s, 4 s230u (Twists).

anyways, not gloating or whatever. I literally just sat down to organize & kind of get a grasp of what I have & need to get rid of. but what I can offer in relation to this thread is that I've done extensive testing with a LOT of m.2 (2242/42mm) ssds. these are the most expensive of the m.2 bunch & people go crazy for these.

these are just a few of the bunch I have on hand & that I've tested. if yous guys have any questions about which m.2s I found to be worth buying, feel free to ask away. I went into my testing free from all the online reviews & wanted to judge them from my own personal experiences, professionally & leisurely. I even tested the horrible Chinese brands haha.

/nerd rant

For my use case, gaming and intenet browsing, I really don’t notice that much of a difference between SSD’s. I can wait an extra 2 seconds for something to load. I don’t move large files around though.
NVME is great but at almost double the price for the same capacity, it’s a hard sell. Unless you’re going to be building an i7 machine, imo you’re better off taking the price difference between an m.2 and nvme and spend it on something else
For example an Evo 970 1tb is $228 but an Evo 860 is $128. That $100 savings will get you a lot of things like 16gb of ram, a much better case, the best air cooler, or rgb fans for example.

Spoiler: My different boot SSD’s

Sandisk SSD plus 240gb
Adata XPG 6000 nvme 128gb
Samsung 850 evo 250gb m.2
Samsung 960 evo 500gb nvme
WD Blue 500gb m.2

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Are you putting this in a prebuilt like a Dell or HP?

Can you stretch your budget $10? There's an EVGA GTX1070 SC2 iCX for $310, it's an insane deal. There's a $20 rebate as well, so the total cost would be $290. It also come with a free copy of the new Monster Hunter game. An Nvidia GTX1070 will do more than 1080p 60fps high settings on any game, it will do 1440 60fps on low-medium settings.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320 @Madmick don't know if you seen this deal.

If you can't come up with the extra $10, look towards an nVidia GTX1060 6GB or AMD RX580 8gb version. You're going to pay around $250 for a good 1060 6gb or RX 580 8gb. A GTX1060 6gb or RX580 8gb will do 1080p 60fps high settings on today's games.
Personally, I would spend the extra $60 and get the GTX1070. In 2 years when the hardware gets older and games become more demanding, the 1060 6gb/580 8gb versions will do 1080p 40fps high settings when new games come out. Since the gtx1070 is a more powerful card, it will allow you to get 1080p 60fps high settings for 3, maybe 4 years.

If you're not going to go for the 1070, hold off a couple weeks before you buy a 1060 6gb or the RX580 8gb. AMD card is supposed to come out with a card slightly faster than the RX580 8gb on the 15th of this month.

thanks for the help . i got the nvidia geforce gtx 1060 6G for 240ish just this past friday fromm newegg. very satisfied with it.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

this isn't really video game related but more so PC related.

I've been on a ThinkPad craze this past year or so. because I've had all these parts left over in my apt accumulated for years. so I started rebuilding these laptops, selling them & shit.

but it's been fun rebuilding these fuckers.

I've always had a few laptops just for fuck's sake, but as of now, my laptop inventory includes:

x240 - i7 128gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1tb hdd 16gb RAM
t430s - i5 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb FireCuda SSHD + (Ultrabay) 2tb BarraCuda hdd 16gb RAM
t530 - i7 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb hdd + 16gb RAM
w530 - i7 256gb mSATA ssd + 2tb BarraCuda HDD 32gb RAM
t540p - i5 64gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1.5tb hdd 16gb RAM

s1 yoga 12 - i5 256gb ssd 8gb RAM
s1 yoga 12 - i7 128gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 2tb hdd 8gb RAM (on this right now)
s3 yoga 14 - i5 240gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 1tb hdd 8gb RAM
yoga 260 - i5 256gb m.2 (80mm) ssd + 8gb RAM
yoga 460 - i5 240gb m.2 (42mm) ssd + 2tb FireCuda 16gb RAM

& in my graveyard currently I have like 6 t430(s)', t440, t450, t470, yoga 11e, 3 s1 yogas, a bunch of x220, x230, x240, x250s, 4 s230u (Twists).

anyways, not gloating or whatever. I literally just sat down to organize & kind of get a grasp of what I have & need to get rid of. but what I can offer in relation to this thread is that I've done extensive testing with a LOT of m.2 (2242/42mm) ssds. these are the most expensive of the m.2 bunch & people go crazy for these.

these are just a few of the bunch I have on hand & that I've tested. if yous guys have any questions about which m.2s I found to be worth buying, feel free to ask away. I went into my testing free from all the online reviews & wanted to judge them from my own personal experiences, professionally & leisurely. I even tested the horrible Chinese brands haha.

/nerd rant

ummm yeah i got a question....

Can you send me a SSD ?

 

[Cygnus A]

Just need GPU prices to come back down to live in the golden age of PC gaming.

 

[90 50]

Looks like this sale went up shortly after my post. Well, you were thinking about upgrading, and that CPU is what's on the bubble for DOOM Eternal. This is the one for you. In fact, this is the one for anybody lucky enough to live near to a Microcenter. Don't hesitate. Go pick that up. Even if that somehow miraculously gets beaten, and it won't, there's no way it gets beaten by a significant amount. This is what I'm talking about with these early November sales. These sales are crazy. In fact, Microcenter doesn't have an official adscan flyer for Black Friday, yet, but they are showing the R5-1600 will be $129.99 for their "3 Day Black Friday Sale", so they definitely aren't poised to one-up this.

Furthermore, take the motherboard combo. Those bundled savings (-$30) are usually offset by the opportunity cost of taking the best market price for any given motherboard against what Microcenter is charging, but I peeled through their MoBos, quickly, and I noticed the ASrock B450 Fatal1ty Gaming K4 ATX mobo is actually $14 cheaper than the cheapest current price from an online vendor (Amazon or Newegg Business). I checked, and the bundled savings automatically register in the cart, so it is compatible.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/509728/fatal1ty-b450-gaming-k4-am4-atx-amd-motherboard
vs.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pq...-gaming-k4-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-k4

No CPU Cooler, but that puts you at $189.98 for the CPU + MoBo Combo (before tax).

Spoiler: Obviously merchants didn't anticipate these prices, either. Here was Microcenter's 2017 Adscan for Black Friday

$229 for the R7-1700X a year ago.

Just scavenge the guts of your current rig. You'll kick down hard drives as you upgrade drives, anyway. So it won't take much to restore that R3-1200 with its MoBo to a full rig you can use as an HTPC or something.

Well that was quick.

1700x sold the faky fak out.

Damn it!!!!

Should have got off my but and went that day.

Still a decent deal on the 2600 for 149(with mobo makes it 119) and the 2600x for 20.00 more.

So now back to trying to decide on going for one of those or a 2700x at 229, -30 puts a 2700x UNDER 200.00!!


Or the 1950x for 479.00

Back to scratching my head.

Pissed I didn’t run out and grab that 1700x in time!!!!

 

[jefferz]

Just need GPU prices to come back down to live in the golden age of PC gaming.

I would argue we're in the golden age right now. RX 580 8gb's are $200 and 1070ti's are sub $350 right now. Pair either with the Ryzen R7-1700x for $150 on sale right now, and you'll have a great 1080p machine with the 580 and 1440 with the 1070ti. Ram is insanely cheap, 16gb 3000 kits are on sale for $100 right now. SSD's are at record lows.

 

[90 50]

Just need GPU prices to come back down to live in the golden age of PC gaming.

1060 6gb for 250 and rx 580 8gb for 230.00 in my area.

That’s not shabby.

Higher end cards are still crazy but good pricing on great cards can be found.


Edit found 580’s for 199.99 with 3 free games
And 64’s for 399

 

[jefferz]

Well that was quick.

1700x sold the faky fak out.

Damn it!!!!

Should have got off my but and went that day.

Still a decent deal on the 2600 for 149(with mobo makes it 119) and the 2600x for 20.00 more.

So now back to trying to decide on going for one of those or a 2700x at 229, -30 puts a 2700x UNDER 200.00!!


Or the 1950x for 479.00

Back to scratching my head.

Pissed I didn’t run out and grab that 1700x in time!!!!

Ryzen 5 1600 is $130 right now. It comes with the higher quality Wraith Spire that will handle a 3.7ghz OC all day long. That's the best deal on a Ryzen processor atm since the 1700x sold out.
R5 2600 cooler on the left, 1600 in the middle.