but asking MMA fighters to have two types of check in their arsenal when they barely check conventional low kicks is probably a bit much.
In order to deal with it you check it by turning your leg out without lifting it
I use them more often than regular low kicks for the reasons @AndyMaBobs said about it being so hard to check. I find them a lot quicker to throw as well which makes them beautiful for countering kicks and knocking people on there ass. As an inside kick I find if its thrown with any decent power 8/10 times it widens the guys stance making follow up strikes easier (Beware of Lawler Manhoef type shit). Aiming around the knee is fun too.
That's part of the system. Its an open style format, but due to what's been successful everyone's a generic kickboxing, wrestling, BJJ guy. So TMA techniques make waves due to being new and foreign.I'm loving how techniques that are almost exclusive to traditional martial arts are making their way into MMA.
It's not a technique you see really taught in modern styles like MT, kickboxing, Kyokushin etc.
It is a technique though that I have seen taught in old school traditional styles like Okinawan Karate & Muay Boran, Wado Ryu etc.
It's kind of funny & at the same time ironic that until recently people have recognized it's value. Prior to that people use to shit on many traditional martial arts techniques including that - fast forward a decade later and it's becoming popular & more importantly for MMA seems to be a better fit.
isnt that kinda fuked though to aim at a guys knee in a cage fight thats career ending injuries you are trying to do like getting a heel hook and jerking it hard unless its a fight for the belt idk if thats cool t use
Getting kicked in the head is pretty fucked too. So is agreeing to fight another trained martial artist. Its not like its an illegal tactic. Im not blasting my sparring partners but in a fight whats the difference between that and a front or side kick to the thigh that hyper extends the knee? or Mike Perry literally saying "Who's life do yall want me to ruin next?" If its effective why not use it to win a fight?
yeah but come on u get koed with a kick to the head guys get koed all the time but come back fine knee kicks do put people out knee injuries are no joke look at cruz
Shidokan Karate blackbelt Shonie Carter used to spam spinning backfists like crazy. He has 2 official KOs using that strike - vs Keith Wisniewski and Matt Serra.I'm loving how techniques that are almost exclusive to traditional martial arts are making their way into MMA.
It's not a technique you see really taught in modern styles like MT, kickboxing, Kyokushin etc.
It is a technique though that I have seen taught in old school traditional styles like Okinawan Karate & Muay Boran, Wado Ryu etc.
It's kind of funny & at the same time ironic that until recently people have recognized it's value. Prior to that people use to shit on many traditional martial arts techniques including that - fast forward a decade later and it's becoming popular & more importantly for MMA seems to be a better fit.
It's not an easy kick to check imo. Even if you do manage to do some semblance of a check because the kick is aimed at the calf you're making bone on bone contact with your opponent - on the same length of shin they are using to kick you. It won't really have the same effect as a check would with a conventional low kick aimed at the thigh where you're checking someone's shin with a significantly thicker part of your tibula - than the part of the tibula they are hitting you with.
Also even if you check like that - you'll knee will still get tweaked. IMHO it's much easier to just manage your distance & move out of range. Or just simply lift up your leg, or throw a kick from your lead leg.
I can't wait until people start realizing you can actually pull of back-fists & other non-conventional hand strikes that you see often see in TMAs that many in combat sports have ridiculed - it will be incredibly ironic to see everyone scrambling to learn it years from now when someone starts effectively doing it in the cage.
It's not an easy kick to check imo. Even if you do manage to do some semblance of a check because the kick is aimed at the calf you're making bone on bone contact with your opponent - on the same length of shin they are using to kick you. It won't really have the same effect as a check would with a conventional low kick aimed at the thigh where you're checking someone's shin with a significantly thicker part of your tibula - than the part of the tibula they are hitting you with.
Also even if you check like that - you'll knee will still get tweaked. IMHO it's much easier to just manage your distance & move out of range. Or just simply lift up your leg, or throw a kick from your lead leg.
Shidokan Karate blackbelt Shonie Carter used to spam spinning backfists like crazy. He has 2 official KOs using that strike - vs Keith Wisniewski and Matt Serra.
More like pimp slapShidokan Karate blackbelt Shonie Carter used to spam spinning backfists like crazy. He has 2 official KOs using that strike - vs Keith Wisniewski and Matt Serra.
Shidokan Karate blackbelt Shonie Carter used to spam spinning backfists like crazy. He has 2 official KOs using that strike - vs Keith Wisniewski and Matt Serra.
uraken uchi & kote uchi, shoken or nukite, sokusen geri
Disclaimer: I am going to put translated Western names of Karate techniques into brackets for @ARIZE since his Google is broken.It's kind of crazy that since then no-one has tried any other type of hand strike except the spinning back fist. I think strikes like uraken uchi & kote uchi would be something you could use right of the bat. Uraken uchi is not that much different to a spinning back fist and it's perfect to use after any roundhouse type strike like a hook (that's also conveniently how we see it used in kata).
Something also I think would be great to use is shoken or nukite - not at the face but with strikes to the body like the solar plexus (I wouldn't suggest the liver/floating rib because you'd probably smash your hands). Strikes like that to the solar plexus are incredibly painful.
I mean I don't think people outside of Karate know how destructive sokusen geri is - especially someone that's dedicated the time needed to apply that technique. It's a fight finishing kick that you don't really see applied because you need to put years into the technique to be able to use it without smashing your toes to bits.