So if Mousasi > Hall doesn't that mean Bisping > Rockhold?

No, Mousasi was winning the fight until the kick and knee. And the 2nd fight proved it was a fluke. Rockhold in the first fight absolutely dominated the entire fight and had complete control. The 2nd time he fought like a cocky asshole, and then got KO'd. Rockhold still outclassed Bisping, whereas Bisping caught rockhold while he was fighting as if he was invincible with his chin up and hands low.

But in either case, the guy that wasn't supposed to win, won. No matter how much spin (no pun) you put on it.

Doesn't make the guy you think is more of a superhero "better". In both cases they're 1-1.
 
Just a random thought...

After Mousasi beat Hall folks tried to pretend that their first fight didn't happen. Just wondering if that carries over to other match ups.

Hall was losing the first fight and landed a KO shot. He got decimated in the rematch.

Bisping got decimated in the first fight and landed a KO shot in the 2nd. Slightly different.

Bisping has avoided fighting Luke, Chris, Yoel, even Whittaker or Jacare. He doesn't want to lose and he knows his chances of doing so vs those guys is pretty high.
 
Hall was losing the first fight and landed a KO shot. He got decimated in the rematch.

Bisping got decimated in the first fight and landed a KO shot in the 2nd. Slightly different.

So Bisping > Rockhold, yeah?
 
But in either case, the guy that wasn't supposed to win, won. No matter how much spin (no pun) you put on it.

Doesn't make the guy you think is more of a superhero "better". In both cases they're 1-1.

What do you think the odds would be in the rubber matches?

That should sum it up. One of them would probably have close odds, the other would be very wide.
 
Bisping will retire before he lets rockhold fuck his shit up again. Sparring doesn't mean shit, just ask Kelvin
 
What do you think the odds would be in the rubber matches?

That should sum it up. One of them would probably have close odds, the other would be very wide.

Odds don't matter. Evidenced by the fact that both series are tied 1-1
 
So Bisping > Rockhold, yeah?

nah, i'd still take the complete decimation of Luke in 1st fight over the 3 min KO blow landed by Bisping.

Bisping is definitely better than Tim Boestch though
 
That Sherdoggery logic

Bisping is legitimately the worst guy in the MW division in the top 5. He is basically the equivalent of Matt Serra as champion. Sure, he beat GSP. Sure, he's the champ. That doesn't make him the best fighter in the division.

It's MMA, 1 punch can KO anyone. Shit happens. Let's see him defend vs an actual MW that's ranked in the top 3/5. He would most likely be the betting underdog and for good reason.
 
Bisping vs Rockhold is a bigger fluke than Hall vs Mousasi. Thats saying something.
 
Bisping is actually 2-1 against Rockhold. He won a sparring match and became the Strikeforce champ
 
except Bisping's win over Rockhold and Hall's win over Mousasi are remarkably similar. Despite what people tell you, the better man doesn't always win. It's just the way she goes bud.

Exactly! And the best fighters don't always get a title shot.

People here like to use the term cans. "He/she only fights cans."

Guess what if the UFC doesn't market a fighter regardless of how good they are they will always be seen as a CAN.

The opposite is true too. Look at Bethe Corriea. Bethe Corriea is essentially a true can marketed as this legitimate threat when in reality she just a fall girl fed to the Ronda Rousey illusion.

Because she fought Ronda Fraud Rousey she is still till this day perceived as a legitimate opponent in WMMA.

Marketing does WONDERS.
 
What do you think the odds would be in the rubber matches?

That should sum it up. One of them would probably have close odds, the other would be very wide.

They matter when you are speculating an opinion as to who is better.

There is no definitive "who is better" if that existed, why have fights.
 
I like my sassy but I feel like he's overrated. Possibly his best when is against Wiedman and that was controversial. He got mucked by an Lyoto who then went on to then went on to lose 3 of his next 4 fight scene. Moose is a solid top ten fighter but not top 5. Sorry j may have went off point here.
 
Whoever wins last, amirite?

An insurgent with no training can blind firing an AK and headshot an elite navy seal. It doesnt make the insurgent better. Luckily in mma you wont die so you can get a rematch.

If you examine both fights with hall vs mousasi and examine their career as a whole, you will see mousasi is better. Same with Rockhold>bisping.
 
If you examine both fights with hall vs mousasi and examine their career as a whole, you will see mousasi is better. Same with Rockhold>bisping.

But the argument for who's "better" isn't usually about a comparison of fighter's careers as a whole, it's usually about "who would win if this guy and that guy fight".
 
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