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hmm, that's a good kayo record, he didn't look like much of a hitter though, physically, he just didn't have the coordination, good handspeed though.fm senior record 28-6 with 17 kO's
hmm, that's a good kayo record, he didn't look like much of a hitter though, physically, he just didn't have the coordination, good handspeed though.fm senior record 28-6 with 17 kO's
Because he wasn't quick enough and stopped fielding shots after the first shot of a combo.and gee, i wonder why that shoulder didn't work?
Yeah, but his competition was shit. He was a decent club level fighter who got a few big shots.fm senior record 28-6 with 17 kO's
no, you're wrong...there is absolutely no evidence to support your claim that cocaine is a performance enhancer.Regarding PEDs. Definitely cocaine is a PED especially where fatigue and pain relief are useful, and in fact opiods are known to have been used as PEDs since ancient Greek times. In fact that is why we call it "doping" in the first place. In the late 1880s most competitive cyclists specifically took cocaine which was acknowledged particularly among French cyclists. Also recorded cases of lacrosse teams using it.
In the 1904 Olympics apparently "Mixtures of strychnine, heroin, cocaine, and caffeine were used widely by athletes and each coach or team developed its own unique secret formulae."
I can go on about that, but regarding steroids they knew about that since the 1940s. Russian weightlifters were publicly using testosterone by 1954. American Olympic athletes were known to be doing them by early 1960s. With professional boxing getting fed from Olympic boxing it is not a stretch that there would be significant steroid use starting in the mid 1960s.
Note too of course that it wasn't even illegal. Steroids were readily available since they had legitimate uses. Boxers already had doctors giving them special attention and all they would have needed for a testosterone prescription would have been to say they were getting too sore or tired.
I know by personal experience that by the mid 1970s every highschool boy had access to steroids, so I'm pretty darn sure that every pro boxer did as well. Whether they chose to use them, who knows, but I feel every one of them considered it since it was a tool for sports performance that was gaining prominence in all strength and endurance sports.
no, you're wrong...there is absolutely no evidence to support your claim that cocaine is a performance enhancer.
I never said it was particularly effective but it definitely has been used a lot in sports in the belief that it would. It's use is extremely well documented.
Also, keep in mind that we're talking about fighting sports where pain relief is a bigger factor than in other sports. It might not make you faster, but it sure as hell will make the blows sting less. That may be worth it.
Also keep in mind that dosing is really key to all performance enhancement. Of course it isn't going to be helpful to be out-of-your mind stoned. But a little something to take an edge off may help.
I've always heard it wasn't supposed to be cocaine, but rather the contents of ashtma pills, which are supposed to improve cardioCocaine would be absolutely awful for a cardio sport like boxing considering what it does to heart rate and your core temperature. Also, the idea that Pryor was drinking water with coke dissolved into it (something that people have argued a lot over the years) from the special water bottle has always seemed ridiculous to me considering how long it takes to enter the bloodstream if you're ingesting it.
I've always heard it wasn't supposed to be cocaine, but rather the contents of ashtma pills, which are supposed to improve cardio
hmmmm yeah, the only other thing I could suggest is maybe amphetamines (like speed), which, just based off of personal experience, still takes a few minutes to set inIngesting anything takes way too long. If it was a nasal spray or something like that, I'd get it. It's just that physiologically, ingesting anything like that won't do anything for you for at least 10 minutes (and that the absolute earliest; it's usually closer to 30 or beyond).
I don't mean to besmirch cocaine. It's a good substance that is well enjoyed from time to time.
Coke is pretty fast acting. I could see how someone could benefit from a line between rounds.hmmmm yeah, the only other thing I could suggest is maybe amphetamines (like speed), which, just based off of personal experience, still takes a few minutes to set in
Haha me toobump. i actually rewatched this today. Vicious fight. Unreal
one of the best in horse racing.so you're saying cocaine is a PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUG??
fm senior record 28-6 with 17 kO's
Overlooked or misunderstood. The way he came back from that scud middle that Mosley hit him with. He did what he needed to do and was reversing the situation by the next round.Man Floyd Sr. was really fast. He was quick and game, and, like his son, was tough. Passed on good genetics.
Floyd Jr's toughness and composure under fire is perhaps overlooked
He also handled Hatton's mugging, hit and hold tactics very well. And in the fight alot of people thought he lost, Castillo 1, he fought hard down the stretch with and injured shoulder. So many people thought he lost but I had it either 7-5 Mayweather in rounds or 6-6.Overlooked or misunderstood. The way he came back from that scud middle that Mosley hit him with. He did what he needed to do and was reversing the situation by the next round.
The mental aspect is often overlooked by us fans and I think Floyd’s ability to remain calm like you said is one of his greatest strengths you never see him sacrificing himself for the fight or getting caught out in exchanges. It’s funny as some (know nothing chumps) will say this is why he isn a fighter. But it is this quality that makes him a champion.He also handled Hatton's mugging, hit and hold tactics very well. And in the fight alot of people thought he lost, Castillo 1, he fought hard down the stretch with and injured shoulder. So many people thought he lost but I had it either 7-5 Mayweather in rounds or 6-6.