Steve Bannon says 30% chance Trump finishes 1st term

Will Trump finish first term?

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Slick_36 said:
Trump is in office because our government has been working for international corporations and special interests for years and the American voters got fed up and basically threw a tantrum where they shit themselves in protest. We can blame Russia for taking advantage, but it was glaring domestic problems that opened the door.
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None of that absolves Trump of personal levels of criminality and incompetence though.
 
Rational Poster said:
None of that absolves Trump of personal levels of criminality and incompetence though.
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Absolutely not. What I don't understand is why he's allowed to continue running so many business ventures that are such an obvious conflict of interest. You don't need to blame Russia to see that his priority is money over the American citizens.
 
Trump would have to really fuck up for Republicans to give up power. If he starts a war they profit. Unless he went full dem on healthcare, gun rights and the wall he's staying until 2020.

Bannon is just setting himself up for the next election. His asking price for the next persons campaign manager will be high. He could probably even run somewhere now. Breitbart will always be there for him. He wants the limelight too.
 
zebby23 said:
Bankruptcy gets you out of paying your bills therefore saving you money. It costs very little money relatively to file bankruptcy. I'm not going to argue about the differences between making money and saving money. Either way he didn't have to pay his bills so he is a coward and not a good businessman.

Lets also not forget that the money Trump used to start his failed casinos was borrowed money. So this wonderful businessman filed bankruptcy on properties started with borrowed money. Mark Cuban does a piece on this where he explains it well.
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Well, there is a difference.

Idk your deal, my point is simple though, with a guy like Trump you don't have to make shit up. And if you care about convincing people in regards to your arguments, try being accurate and using a bit o' nuance.

If you just want to yell on a forum, which is what it looks like, carry on.
 
Fugazy said:
Well, there is a difference.

Idk your deal, my point is simple though, with a guy like Trump you don't have to make shit up. And if you care about convincing people in regards to your arguments, try being accurate and using a bit o' nuance.

If you just want to yell on a forum, which is what it looks like, carry on.
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The hell? This is an extremely bizarre response. It's almost like you made up an entire assumption about me yelling and whatever else and then attacked the made up assumption. Weird.

I'm not sure of YOUR deal but I'm simply positing that Trump is not a great businessman and he made lots of his money by not paying people, filing bankruptcy and overall being a dirtbag. I don't see where I yelled and where I wasn't accurate. Again, your post is quite bizarre
 
Trump aint going nowhere. My money's actually on him in the next election. This smacks of Bannon stirring the "Deep State" pot for the conspiracy theory mouthbreathers.
 
zebby23 said:
The hell? This is an extremely bizarre response. It's almost like you made up an entire assumption about me yelling and whatever else and then attacked the made up assumption. Weird.

I'm not sure of YOUR deal but I'm simply positing that Trump is not a great businessman and he made lots of his money by not paying people, filing bankruptcy and overall being a dirtbag. I don't see where I yelled and where I wasn't accurate. Again, your post is quite bizarre
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Eh, my bad.

Replace yell with shitpost.

There is a massive difference between preventing the loss of money and making money.

But I see being accurate isn't in your wheelhouse. As long as it slams Trump who gives a shit what the details are.
 
Fugazy said:
Eh, my bad.

Replace yell with shitpost.

There is a massive difference between preventing the loss of money and making money.

But I see being accurate isn't in your wheelhouse. As long as it slams Trump who gives a shit what the details are.
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But why are you so mad? It's hard to be accurate when someone is creating a strawman (you) and then falling over himself trying to argue the strawman haha.

Actually preventing the loss of money (Money that stays in your account) and making money (money that goes into your account) isn't really that different when trying to accumulate as much money as possible is your goal but clearly facts aren't your strong suit. Arguing over minor details is though I can see haha
 
zebby23 said:
But why are you so mad? It's hard to be accurate when someone is creating a strawman (you) and then falling over himself trying to argue the strawman haha.

Actually preventing the loss of money (Money that stays in your account) and making money (money that goes into your account) isn't really that different when trying to accumulate as much money as possible is your goal but clearly facts aren't your strong suit. Arguing over minor details is though I can see haha
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I'm not mad I was trying to help you
 
Juventud said:
He's staying until 2020.
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The closer that gets the funnier "increasingly nervous man" 2.0 will be

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Farmer Br0wn said:
Trump is a billionaire who got himself elected leader of the free world the first time he tried. He's one of the more competent humans alive today.

You have no evidence to back up your claim.

The only reason you associate "incompetent" with Trump is because you personally don't like him.
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He got elected armed with little more than locker room talk. Makes me think I could be president.
 
Fugazy said:
One of the few things harder than making money is keeping money and making it grow. Both of which he has done in GLOBAL REAL ESTATE AND TELEVISION. Two of the most cut-throat and fickle businesses there are.

I don't even like him. I really dislike Trump actually. He is loud and obnoxious. But that doesn't mean he is all these horrible things people say. He is cleary adept at getting what he wants and building his family fortune. He is clearly adept at molding perceptions and soliciting reactions.

And can you please explain how bankruptcy makes money? It protects money and lots of very rich people and businesses (Like 50 Cent for example) use it to save money. But it still costs money to utilize a bankruptcy. So please, explain how bankruptcy makes money..?
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Bankruptcy can make you money in a lot of ways.

For example. You borrow money to start/fund a business.

You then pay yourself as an officer at a salary that is not sustainable/commensurate with revenue, and claim losses (as payroll is an expense).

This drives the business into debt and you file bankruptcy. Since a corporation protects you from personal financial liability, you have essentially pocketed all that salary money, and it is protected from corporate bankruptcy proceedings.

The fact that Donald Trump is a billionaire, yet no major western bank will lend him a dime, should tell you a little something about his business ethics. If Donald Trump would've simply made low-risk investments, he would be worth 3 times as much as he is today.

The guy is an absolute moron. Do you even realize how much real estate you could buy in the 1970's with $1,000,000 and the leverage it would afford you? How much do you think that property would be worth today, along with the income it is producing over the last 45 years? Not to mention, Trump also received an inheritance that would afford him even more leverage/buying power.
 
uppercutbus said:
The closer that gets the funnier "increasingly nervous man" 2.0 will be

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Everybody just laughs at the guy because they allow themselves to be drawn into his game instead of actually dealing with core issues. Just look at the NFL, they done fucked up trying to play trumps game. Meanwhile he is two steps ahead. I am not saying he makes the best decisions or what is right, only that he knows how to pull people's puppet strings and get what he wants.

 
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