Stop saying DJ is scared of moving up

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  1. GTS

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    Lets not pretend beating Kid actually meant anything when DJ did it.
     
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    Yea, hes ducking him because he knows how their first fight went.
     
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    Literally fake news.

    TJ just called his ass out in his post fight victory speech at 125, retard.
     
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    MM's safest way to up those numbers is to keep winning at FLW against meh competition. TJ is a threat to that. He wants more money, but he would get more money via ppv points since TJ's the biggest fight of his life. Can't say that's a champ mindset worth supporting.
     
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    DJ is scared of moving up
     
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    If Dillashaw doesn't make weight for a championship fight then DJ doesnt have to fight him. I don't understand the "we can't trust he can make 125" argument. Like this one.

     
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    cannot do that. not yet
     
  9. GreatSaintGuillotine

    GreatSaintGuillotine You may not like what I say but it's the truth.

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    Because training camps are expensive. Also, no fight = no pay. DJ loses out on a lot of cash is TJ misses weight.
     
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    He shows up and makes weight and is a champion, he gets paid if he makes weight.

    What makes you think there isn't a negotiation on his contract staying such like plenty of champions have done.

    If TJ makes weight why would he need that much more financial incentive to fight another FLW?
     
  11. GreatSaintGuillotine

    GreatSaintGuillotine You may not like what I say but it's the truth.

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    TJ has never made 125. No matter how many times he's made 135 it does not make the cut down to FLW any easier.

    That isn't in his contract. He's stated such. He didn't get paid when Borg pulled out. So yes, that is a necessary clause that he needs for this fight.

    Because according to UFC and Dana this is "DJ's big fight". If this is his big fight then pay him. Otherwise he has no reason to take the fight over people who he knows can make weight. Pay him and he'll take the fight. It is that simple.
     
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    Borg pulling out isn't Borg missing weight and DJ taking or not taking the fight anyways. Borg was the one who didn't want to fight DJ out of shape bc the kid clearly has weight issues.

    Link where he stated it isn't in his contract?

    So your reasoning for paying him more for fighting another FLW is bc Dana said it's his big fight? Is that it?

    And Borg missed weight repeatedly at 125 but MM seemed okay with rescheduling that even with prior weight cutting issues and pulling out vs DJ once already for weight. You aren't making sense.
     
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    GreatSaintGuillotine You may not like what I say but it's the truth.

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    http://mmajunkie.com/2017/09/demetrious-johnson-hopeful-manager-can-get-him-paid-for-ufc-215

    "Although the UFC is not contractually obligated to pay fighters whose opponents are unable to compete, the promotion often pays out show money when last-minute issues cancel a fight."

    If it was i his contract the TJ issue would have never happened.

    If this is a fight that is supposed to bring in a lot of money, the biggest of your career, then you should get payed more than your standard. If it is such a big fight then he is right to negotiate for better pay. UFC should pay him. Not a crazy amount like 2 mil, but certainly more than his standard 370k.

    We've seen Borg make weight. We've never seen TJ do the same. I want them to fight but fighting at FLW is risky. Do a catchweight or just fight at BW. Or have TJ have a single FLW fight if he insists on that weight. Put him in the rankings for that weight. Done deal.

    But whatever. I hope the fight happens. Until it does I don't care to argue with people about it unless it's about how it will go down.
     
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    he doesnt even want tj at 125, guy is a clear duck.
     
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    DJ is scared to fight Stipe, he should move up!
     
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    MM is running out of options at this point. He should be welcoming a fight with TJ. I think it gives him a lot of opportunities, he can beat TJ and solidify his "greatness," potentially earn more money, increase brand awareness and possible headline an event rather than fighting on the undercards (ha just kidding).
     
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    TJ's walkout music?

     
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    Yes we have seen Borg make weight but have seen him miss what an equal amount of times, and most importantly, including a cancelled fight with DJ but he still seemed okay rescheduling that fight. Probably because he knew it was an easy fight.

    He wants to get paid for more than likely losing. He has had almost no risk with most of his opponents which is why Borgs weight issues didn't phase him but TJs completely hypothetical weight issues bar him from accepting the fight.

    It's a clear duck in my opinion.
     
  20. GreatSaintGuillotine

    GreatSaintGuillotine You may not like what I say but it's the truth.

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    I don't see TJ presenting any stylistic issues to stop DJ. It'd be a hard fight but ultimately a very winnable fight for DJ. And Please don't bring up Cruz. That was 6 years ago in his first outing as a full time fighter. It'd be competitive but very winnable for MM especially at 125.

    Like I said it's not just the weight and it's not just the difficulty of the fight. It's mainly the money. They were asking him to take a big risk for no reward.

    But believe what you want. It is not a duck imo. Hopefully this fight happens so everyone can shut up.
     

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