The 2 Biggest Detriments to African Americans: Integration and Immigration

Mexico was just find before whites invaded the west lol. So because blacks sold blacks in Aferica


Mexico and the west were just find before the invaders.

The slave trade through Africa sold slaves to europeans for weapons mainly. The europeans tricked the kings on many occasions to steal boat loads of slaves. Yes, some kings did sell slaves to europeans, buy thats because they wanted weapons and technologies to help them win wars between their own conflicts in Africa.

We saw that europeans to slavery to a whole new level in north America. Context means alot man lol.

Lol at Mexico doing just fine. If they were doing just fine they wouldn't have gotten absolutely rekt with hilarious ease. A big part, nay, the biggest part, of "doing just fine" is actually being able to defend your existence
 
i have lived in a city majority of blacks and they do not go by being called african americans. that is offensive because they don't know if they are from africa. not only that they perfer to just be called americans so that is what we do. you stating all these african american things is just showing that you are still behind your people in thought.
 
Mexico was just find before whites invaded the west lol. So because blacks sold blacks in Aferica


Mexico and the west were just find before the invaders.

The slave trade through Africa sold slaves to europeans for weapons mainly. The europeans tricked the kings on many occasions to steal boat loads of slaves. Yes, some kings did sell slaves to europeans, buy thats because they wanted weapons and technologies to help them win wars between their own conflicts in Africa.

We saw that europeans to slavery to a whole new level in north America. Context means alot man lol.

Well today they are the ones doing the invading and yet they are still a country that is more dangerous than Iraq. The US came back from a Great Depression. What is Mexico waiting for?

So now the African slave owners were tricked? Who tricked them in to enslaving their own kind before Europeans were ever even involved in the first place? Like I said, black-on-black slavery still exists today in Africa and yet many African-Americans still romanticize it as the motherland. Who is tricking them in places like Sudan as we speak?

Every race on the planet historically owned slaves of some sort. Whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, and even the native Americans warred over land and enslaved their captives. Arabs held a much bigger slave trade of blacks than whites and it still happens today in countries like Saudi Arabia. Why do we still pretend that only whites did this? It's a form of selective history story telling.

Let's tell the whole story of history instead of just the abbreviated Al Sharpton version for once. Whites had their share of wrongs in the past but so did everyone else. Blacks in Africa are still unwilling to let go of slavery in 2017. But they were fooled by the white man. LOL!

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Today christian groups are the ones trying to buy back the freedom of black African slaves. That darn evil whitey.



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Boko Haram and young sex slaves.
 
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Integration

Integration is a process that dilutes our resources, our wealth, our identity, our communities, and our power structure. African Americans are the only group in this country that doesn't understand this. We are the only group that still pursues this failed notion of integrating into white society, white wealth, and the white power structure. Hispanics and Asians do not do this. They spend their energy pooling their resources together to create their own wealth, their own culture, their own communities, and ultimately their own power base. As their positions and power becomes increasingly threatened you are seeing more and more Whites focus on this as well both in America and in Europe. Yet we African Americans are still stuck in this paradigm where we think the path to equality and prosperity is through social justice and acceptance by the existing power structure. WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE THIS(well the white liberal as well) and it's done absolutely nothing for us. We are about to go from 2nd behind whites in terms of wealth, population, and ownership to number 4 behind Whites, Asians, and Hispanics.

By opposing integration that does not mean I am embracing segregation or separation. And I'm certainly not advocating any kind of hate or racism. Instead I am advocating aggregation. The only way for blacks to ever achieve any sense of equality and prosperity we must aggregate our resources, our culture, and our communities.

Immigration

Immigration is another process that is further diluting the resources, wealth, identity, communities, and power structure of African Americans. For some reason we insist on identifying with immigrants when no group of immigrants identify with us. In fact they largely have open disdain for us. Yet we allow them to wrap themselves in our history and struggle in this country in order for them to prosper. We don't understand that we ourselves are NOT immigrants. We are part of the original group of settlers and founders who were here from the beginning and built this country. We should be against DACA, sanctuary cities, and this never ending influx of immigrants legal or otherwise. Why? Because they are competing directly with us and are supplanting us and our position in this country. They are making gains and taking ground not just from white society but from us as well.

As this continues and groups like Hispanics and Asians continue to grow and gain power and footholds in this country they will not be afflicted by the same guilt that white people are. They have no obligation or care about black plight. We will not be able to shame them into accepting us, giving us opportunities, giving us wealth and token positions of power. And as whites start to focus on their own survival and positions in this country they will care less and less about that as well. We African Americans will become the permanent underclass in this country and we won't be able to lean on past injustices to make gains socially and economically. We will be truly and totally marginalized, kept poor, and treated like dirt. We will once again begin to face real oppression and real hate.

I respect the Richard Spencers and David Dukes of the world that make no excuses for their agenda of white supremacy much more than your soft conservatives or white liberals. When whites are open and clear about their goals and agenda it clearly outlines the rules of the game. It allows us to begin playing the game ourselves. It leaves us with no illusions and no excuses about who we are and our position in society.

Thoughts?

As a non American I am not qualified to comment on African-Americans.

That being said I find this OP intelligent and worthy of discussion.

I disagree with the Integration part, as it implies that a society should have different communities in it (but then again, the position of AA in the USA is very particuliar).

I agree with the immigration part. AAs are part of the founding people of the USA, and fuck anyone who would tell you that you are "a minority" just like the Koreans or Mexicans or whatever.
BTW, this is a neo-liberal / globalist tactic, to make everyone believe that they are a minority like everyone else.
 
Again, the whole west was practically Mexico.. so why dis whites migrate from the east to west? I can make the same argument..

No it wasnt.

That " west" belonged to white Spaniards who conquered the region prior to that it belonged to a variety of Native American tribes that had no relation to the Mexican people.

When the territory fell into Mexican hands for a time it was still largely run by people of large spanish extraction so the whole it was mexico's first doesnt fit with your narrative if you look at it from a historical perspective.
 
No it wasnt.

That " west" belonged to white Spaniards who conquered the region prior to that it belonged to a variety of Native American tribes that had no relation to the Mexican people.

When the territory fell into Mexican hands for a time it was still largely run by people of large spanish extraction so the whole it was mexico's first doesnt fit with your narrative if you look at it from a historical perspective.

Whites spaniards mixed with natives created Mexicans. Mexicans are native to this country more so than white europeans. But whites want to kick out other lol. Smh
 
Well today they are the ones doing the invading and yet they are still a country that is more dangerous than Iraq. The US came back from a Great Depression. What is Mexico waiting for?

So now the African slave owners were tricked? Who tricked them in to enslaving their own kind before Europeans were ever even involved in the first place? Like I said, black-on-black slavery still exists today in Africa and yet many African-Americans still romanticize it as the motherland. Who is tricking them in places like Sudan as we speak?

Every race on the planet historically owned slaves of some sort. Whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, and even the native Americans warred over land and enslaved their captives. Arabs held a much bigger slave trade of blacks than whites and it still happens today in countries like Saudi Arabia. Why do we still pretend that only whites did this? It's a form of selective history story telling.

Let's tell the whole story of history instead of just the abbreviated Al Sharpton version for once. Whites had their share of wrongs in the past but so did everyone else. Blacks in Africa are still unwilling to let go of slavery in 2017. But they were fooled by the white man. LOL!

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Today christian groups are the ones trying to buy back the freedom of black African slaves. That darn evil whitey.



first_slave-300x300.jpg


Jihad-Kidnap-Main.jpg

Boko Haram and young sex slaves.
 
Well today they are the ones doing the invading and yet they are still a country that is more dangerous than Iraq. The US came back from a Great Depression. What is Mexico waiting for?

So now the African slave owners were tricked? Who tricked them in to enslaving their own kind before Europeans were ever even involved in the first place? Like I said, black-on-black slavery still exists today in Africa and yet many African-Americans still romanticize it as the motherland. Who is tricking them in places like Sudan as we speak?

Every race on the planet historically owned slaves of some sort. Whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, and even the native Americans warred over land and enslaved their captives. Arabs held a much bigger slave trade of blacks than whites and it still happens today in countries like Saudi Arabia. Why do we still pretend that only whites did this? It's a form of selective history story telling.

Let's tell the whole story of history instead of just the abbreviated Al Sharpton version for once. Whites had their share of wrongs in the past but so did everyone else. Blacks in Africa are still unwilling to let go of slavery in 2017. But they were fooled by the white man. LOL!

hqdefault.jpg


file.php

Today christian groups are the ones trying to buy back the freedom of black African slaves. That darn evil whitey.



first_slave-300x300.jpg


Jihad-Kidnap-Main.jpg

Boko Haram and young sex slaves.


Mexico more dangerous than Iraq huh? Plenty of whites retire in mexico and vacation there every week lol. You really need to get out more. You probably never visted another country beside murica, sad really.
 
Whites spaniards mixed with natives created Mexicans. Mexicans are native to this country more so than white europeans. But whites want to kick out other lol. Smh

Mestizos or modern day mexicans didnt conquer the southwest 100s of years ago and claim it as their own. Again it was done by full blooded Europeans

And when Mexico rebelled from Spain and took over the territory guess who was largely controlling their government at the time as well? Whitey

And lol at the mental Gymnastics of "more so Native". Mexicans have no ancestral ties to the south west. It was occupied by different native tribes with different languages and cultures who would have saw any type of Mexican be they white or mixed or full on native as being as alien as any other foreigner who was coming into their land.
 
Mestizos or modern day mexicans didnt conquer the southwest 100s of years ago and claim it as their own. Again it was done by full blooded Europeans

And when Mexico rebelled from Spain and took over the territory guess who was largely controlling their government at the time as well? Whitey

And lol at the mental Gymnastics of "more so Native". Mexicans have no ancestral ties to the south west. It was occupied by different native tribes with different languages and cultures who would have saw any type of Mexican be they white or mixed or full on native as being as alien as any other foreigner who was coming into their land.

As aliens lol. Meixcans look the closets to the natives. Hyperbole by saying they would be unwelcoming. Alien like were the white, blond hair blue eye aliens lol
 
As aliens lol. Meixcans look the closets to the natives. Hyperbole by saying they would be unwelcoming. Alien like were the white, blond hair blue eye aliens lol

Are you aware of anything remotely with the history of the Native American people?

You actually think they would have seen any of the Native Mexican people as their " kind" and wanted them on their land because they "look" closest to them? Lol

You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base here bubba.
 
Whites spaniards mixed with natives created Mexicans. Mexicans are native to this country more so than white europeans. But whites want to kick out other lol. Smh

Are you saying that the elite who held power in Mexico from 1824 until 1848 were meztizo racially?
 
Are you aware of anything remotely with the history of the Native American people?

You actually think they would have seen any of the Native Mexican people as their " kind" and wanted them on their land because they "look" closest to them? Lol

You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base here bubba.

The Apache and Comanche hated Mexicans way more than they hated us, and for good reasons too.
 
Steve Bannon is that you? OP you are full of shit, your parents should have aborted you, lol. ;)
 
The Apache and Comanche hated Mexicans way more than they hated us, and for good reasons too.


Funny, I missed the poll of who the Comanche and the Apache hated more; was that before or after they surrendered to the US Army. Modern Day Mexicans are descended from Native Americans; whether or not they belonged to recognized tribes by the US Government is irrelevant. The original argument was that African Americans were natives; they are not and neither are the Euros. No amount of whitewashing is going to change that.
 
Are you saying that the elite who held power in Mexico from 1824 until 1848 were meztizo racially?

heres all the descendants of Montezuma that were fighting with the Americans for the Mexican territory

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The Apache and Comanche hated Mexicans way more than they hated us, and for good reasons too.

for good reasons? but most people dislikes how European decedents now and past then lol.
 
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But what you're saying will require real work. I rather leech off of the white man for they owe us for all the generations of free labor we gave them. We shouldn't expect to work for our own money. c'mon bruh
 
Hispanics and asians that stay in mostly hispanic and asian areas are not nearly as rich as those who live in more white or mixed areas. Lol
 
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