The drug JDS failed for has shown up in tainted supplements & medications, including in painkiller

Kung Fu bb said:
What kind of credibility does USADA have when they let this guy fight?
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They didn't.

They busted him.
 
King of Fists said:
Those are ingredients, not finshed products. A supplement company can easily lie on their ingredients label because they aren't evaluated by the FDA.
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thats what informed-choice.org is for

they batch test countless supplements and list every single one they find to be ok. athltes are made aware of the site.

they just choose to keep using dodgy suppkements.
 
King of Fists said:
Where is this list and who is the 3rd party lab? From the WADA website.
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http://informed-choice.org/certified-product-brands

click the brand, full list of batch tested products appear.


informed-choice are partners with the institute of national anti doping agencies which covers pretty much every national anti doping agency.

While many NADA's opinion is "dont take supplements" informed-choice/informed-sport (one is for europe, one for the us) is as close as you will et to official.

if you bought a supplement on their list, and tested positive, and by some miracle contamination was found you ocould show by using informed products you had done your diligence
 
Lint2 said:
You're a troll because you think that all your problems are complex, but other people's problem are just silly/easy.

That's the textbook definition of troll.
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Nothing to do with my life.

It is very simple.. Put something in your body that shouldn't be there and you get suspended and your means of making your lively hood is away from you.

Not sure it is more complex than that. I also bet you are naive enough to think that nobody is on PED's as well. All these guys have Coaches, Trainer and Doctor's who they rely on. Roufussport has a Dr. that runs a Testosterone therapy clinic.
 
Irishwhiskey119 said:
I love how JDS passed USADA tests over and over an now i'm supposed to believe he used a PED now.

I'll let the idiots assume he's dirty.
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I'll wait until all the facts are out before we condemn the guy.

I remember when people were all over Machida...
 
Kenny Powerth said:
USADA needs to get their shit straight before they 1) start ruining peoples reputations 2) have fights called off (affecting people's financials) and 3) last butt not least, pissing us (the fans) the fuck off
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Bullshit!!! Professional fighters are supposed to know exactly whats in the supplements they're taking. This has become the new way of beating the system or in other words cheating the system by making the excuse of tainted supplements. These fighters know exactly whats in the supplements they take so they take the PED's they want and when they get caught blame it on tainted supplements.
 
Sean Sherk used the 'tainted supplements' excuse a decade ago....

The fighters know that the supplement industry is unregulated and could be made in someones bathtub....

If fighters are taking supplements that are not required to go through any screening or are allowed to have inaccurate labels....its really on the fighter....

Either get your shit tested or dont take it. No more excuses....

Or they can just legalize PEDs and stop with the whole stupid dog and pony show....
 
MM gets everything he takes, including his asprin, tested by USADA beforehand. Seems reasonable
 
Lint2 said:
Can you understand what "tainted" mean?
By your reasoning I would guess not.
"I didn't read the ingridients of that medicine", said the defense of NOBODY EVER.

There's a thing called cross contamination, where you can't use the same machine that packed X drug to pack Y drug. Manufacturers are supposed to keep this from happening, but not just it costs a lot of money, you also have to check whether what you do against contamination is doing well or need more effort. Since there's little to no checking, they basically have to decide whether they want to make more money or less money. Tough call...

Manufacturers might get sued in US (they won't) but in Brazil I can assure you there's no such thing as authorities are all bribed on a regular basis.

Odds are that a small but clinically detectable amount of X medicine will appear on various Y's units, small enough to be inert to the human body. And not just UFC banned stuff, a bunch of other things, that's one of the reasons why people despise so hard on the whole homeopathy paradigm. It's like getting pissed that a bug's fragment can be found on your Cup Noodles. It's right there, you just need a microscope.

UFC won't pay fighters to pay private labs to scrutinize each aspirin or antibiotic they take, and if you don't take your pills and get sick a week prior fighting then Sherdog (aka Trollersville) will immediately start bashing you as if you're ducking the other guy, even if you already won against him in the past.

I know that people cheat, we can see that. Take a look at Lesnar, (the old) Overeem, GSP, TRT Belfort or Northcutt, these are all guys who I can understand people's suspicions, not JDS.

But then, I can cope that I'm being naive. It's just that if JDS was taking PEDs he has to be the laziest PED abuser in history, as his PEDs are not changing much.

IL;DR- There's simply no way to deal with trolls.
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The pharmacuetical industry is regulated by the FDA....if something is in a medication that is not supposed to be there....the drug manufacturer is liable and in huge trouble....

The supplement industry is not regulated.....they could literally put anything into a pill or powder and call it sugar and face no repercussions.....

Its healthier to get nutrition from real food.....fighters shouldn't take supplements and then complain that an unregulated industry lied about their ingredients....

They should either get their supplements tested or do not take them.....

Food is always available for nutrition...if an athlete wants to find an easier or more convenient way to get certain nutrients, the responsibility is on the fighter to ensure there are no steroids or banned substances in them.....
 
When I was in the military, they pulled a pre-workout supplement from the shelves from the on base health stores. I honestly can't remember which one; maybe C4 or Jack3d...anyway, people just started buying them off base, and allegedly started failing drug tests due to something that was in the product. I really don't know all the details, since it was 5 or 6 years ago, maybe more, but it's not that far-fetched that this was the case with JDS. Of course, at this point, ANYONE who pops for PEDs doesn't surprise me any more.
 
sirmorbach said:
Yeah, just like Brock was on asthma inhalers and Andy on Thai viagra.

I have a bridge to sell in case you're interested.
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Ya thats the same thing as another athlete PROVING that he had tainted supplements to USADA and USADA reducing his suspension


Tainted supplements was an excuse a decade ago, now they can actually test to see if they are tainted or not, so we'll see
 
tat2man5k said:
When I was in the military, they pulled a pre-workout supplement from the shelves from the on base health stores. I honestly can't remember which one; maybe C4 or Jack3d...anyway, people just started buying them off base, and allegedly started failing drug tests due to something that was in the product. I really don't know all the details, since it was 5 or 6 years ago, maybe more, but it's not that far-fetched that this was the case with JDS. Of course, at this point, ANYONE who pops for PEDs doesn't surprise me any more.
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They drug test in the military ?!?!

Must be higher ups ?

I mean if mental capacity tests arent included, drug testing seems weeeeeird
 
DWAYNEAMERICA said:
They didn't.

They busted him.
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This is Brock fighting at UFC 200.... full of steroids and no problem at all.... But yeah, he´s a "big draw", so they invent a good excuse for him and he gets a free pass.
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I don't care about USADA notices anymore. They are ruining the sport
 
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