The Majority of Americans Have Very Reasonable Abortion Views

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  1. luckyshot

    luckyshot VP of the ENTIRE WR

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    A recent Gallup poll confirms:

    60% of Americans feel abortion should be legal during the first trimester.

    This number plummets to only 28% who feel abortion should be legal during the second trimester.

    Just 13% of Americans-- a tiny minority-- feel that abortion should continue to be legal in the third trimester.

    83% of Americans support abortion in the first trimester if the mother's life is in danger. 77% support abortion in the first trimester for cases of rape.

    Interestingly, there was no statistical difference between men and women in overall support of abortions-- except that men were about 5% more likely to support late stage abortions.

    This poll shows that public opinion on abortion has remained stable over time. It has a 4 pt margin of error.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/13/6192...abortion-rights-wanes-as-pregnancy-progresses

    My takeaways:
    • The "pro life" vs. "pro choice" terms that this debate usually gets framed under do not adequately reflect the feelings of 60%+ Americans.
    • I'm comforted in the fact that most Americans are not hardliners on this issue.
    • The 13% who support third trimester abortion for any reason should get together with the 17% who don't support first trimester abortion even when the mother's life is in danger. These two groups should move to an island somewhere and leave the rest of us alone.
     
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  2. Bobby 3 Sticks

    Bobby 3 Sticks Green Belt

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    That number should be 100%
     
  3. Renard

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    Lol @ 23% of people who want to force women to carry rape babies. Way too many nutjobs for my liking.
     
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    Gutter Chris Chiropteran Enthusiast

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    It seems simple to me

    First trimester or if there are going to be major birth defects/ danger to the mother

    anything that isnt that is barbaric or unreasonable

    I always figured most americans were mostly alright with it and just dont find it to be a pleasant talk to have with company
     
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    Gutter Chris Chiropteran Enthusiast

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    I think we call that 20 percent evangelicals and they think all kinds of unreasonable things.

    The words 'im a christian" usually precede moral judgements and folks tellin you how you outta be livin
     
  6. Quequeg

    Quequeg Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card Yellow Card Banned

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    If men could get prego, abortions would be available at 7-11.
     
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  7. luckyshot

    luckyshot VP of the ENTIRE WR

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    This is my problem with the extreme pro-life position.

    Say an 11 year old girl gets raped and the resultant pregnancy not only has severe defects but it is a danger to her life.

    You are really going to force this child to carry a baby through a terribly difficult pregnancy to a delivery in which she will likely die?

    Then what happens? You shrug your shoulders and say, "Eh, God's will"?

    On the other hand, I find it repugnant to think that a healthy woman could carry a baby for seven months, then just have second thoughts and blender it up.

    But I don't find the two above scenarios equally repugnant. I find the first more repugnant than the second.
     
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  8. Seano

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    That I agree with. I think most people are fine with the more extreme cases.
     
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  9. nostradumbass

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    13% is not a tiny tiny minority. That's the size of the entire black population.

    Because 83% support 1st trimester abortion when the mother's life is in danger, that doesn't necessarily mean that 17% are against it. There's usually some kind of "undecided" option. However many do actively oppose it are wrong. Even if you view abortion as murder, which I sort of do, that would still be killing in self defense. The rape pregnancies are negligible, I think it's under 1%, but in those cases, it should be mandatory that it's accompanied by a police report and ideally a morning after pill rather than waiting for the pregnancy.

    There's also another large component to it, and that is whether or not it should be subsidized with tax dollars. I don't know if that would sway too many of the people polled, but it does make a difference.
     
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    And the religious right fought against it tooth and nail.
     
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    One day in the future they'll be able to maintain a fetus outside the womb and that's when the real fun starts
     
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    since the religious right has lost much of it's power, It still surprises me that more GOP supporters aren't FOR ABORTION.....

    it's simple math, the more abortions a society has, the less kids born to parents that can't support them and thus will be mooching off taxpayers....

    pay once, or every month for years?
     
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    To be clear their position is we should let that baby live. That’s what we’re calling them assholes for.

    On the scale of one to hitler I give it a banana
     
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    What? It’s just some cells
     
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    luckyshot VP of the ENTIRE WR

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    Well, I'm glad you liked most of my post.

    Elaborate? Sources?
     
  20. bobgeese

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    I just plain don’t give a shit. The government has no buisiness in peoples reproductive rights.
     
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