The Matrix - the significance of the window washer scene

oh and thx TS. Always cool to get another unique insight this long after.
 
Marla was just another personality. "And that's how I met Marla Singer." - "And that's how I met Tyler Durden."
 
Duh, I noticed this the first time in the theater

The fuck is wrong with you TS
 
Now that the Wachowski Brothers are the Wachowski Sisters, I think you could make the argument that Neo/Matrix is an allegory for a person realizing and accepting him/herself as transgender.
 
Fun fact the Wachowski's were somewhat inspired by the Foo Fighters' Everlong video which was directed by a member of Devo.

 


I've been reading about how the soap running down the windows @ 6 seconds and again @ 33 seconds represents the code running the matrix, and Neo's subconscious recognition of it. I fully believe that's what it's meant to represent as well.


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I've never noticed this before.





Also the squeegee sounds when they're cleaning the windows is also the same sound it makes when Neo is being flushed out of his pod. He puts his hands up on the glass in the pod and it makes the same sound. @3:12 here:





I think the window washer/boss scene is Neo subconsciously recognizing this shit ain't real, and he's trying to wake up inside his pod. In the real world his hands are probably moving against the glass sides inside his pod, making that squeegee sound, so in the matrix he sees window washers making the same sound (like when you're asleep and you hear a sound, you'll dream something that will make sense of the sound).


Think about this scene overall: He sees the soap running down the windows like matrix code. At 33 seconds if you pause it, you'll see that with the code (soap) in front of the city buildings, the buildings take on a cartoonish look. They don't look real at all. Also the boss is basically Agent Smith, talking about Neo being part of a whole and him thinking he is special and the rules don't apply to him, and him having to make a choice; leave or stay...(remember Neo telling the architect later that "the problem is choice?") Then add to all this the fact that the window washers are the Wachowski brothers making a cameo....

There's a LOT going on in this scene but it's all very subtle. I've heard it said that in films, you should try to use an opening scene that basically spells out the entire movie for the audience, be it visually or verbally or whatever. I know the window washer scene isn't the opening scene, but it's close to the beginning, and I think that's what they were using the scene for....a mini outline of the entire movie.


Awe, you spelled Sherdog in code. That's cute.
 
The squeegee sounds at 6 secs and 33 secs is also the same sound it makes when Neo is being flushed out of his pod in a later scene. He puts his hands up on the glass in the pod and it makes the same sound. @3:12 here....squeegee sound:





I think the window washer scene is Neo subconsciously recognizing this shit ain't real, and he's trying to wake up inside his pod. His hands are probably moving against the glass inside his pod, making that squeegee sound, so in the matrix he sees window washers making the same sound (the way you can hear a sound when you're asleep and something in a dream will make sense of the sound).

Think about what all happens in the scene. He sees the soap running down the windows like matrix code. At 33 seconds if you pause it, you'll see that with the code (soap) in front of the city buildings, the buildings take on a cartoonish look. Don't look real at all. Also the boss is basically Agent Smith, talking about Neo being part of a whole and him thinking he is special and the rules don't apply to him, and him having to make a choice. Leave or stay...(remember Neo telling the architect later that "the problem is choice?") Then add to that the fact that the window washers are the Wichowski brothers making a cameo. There's a lot happening beneath the surface in that scene.


Did you just assume their gender?
 
What a great movie doubt we will ever see another scifi movie as good as Matrix
Yes, so good it makes 2 and 3 look like utter shite.
The Wachowskis really were inspired when they made that film.
a year or so ago I started seeing Wachowskis, instead of Wachowski Brothers... had to google it, that's a twist M Nigh Shamalama wouldn't think up on his own
 
Marla was just another personality. "And that's how I met Marla Singer." - "And that's how I met Tyler Durden."
So he was jerkin it to the thought of him, as brad pitt nailing himself as helena bonham carter?

Seems normal to me
 
So he was jerkin it to the thought of him, as brad pitt nailing himself as helena bonham carter?

Seems normal to me

How else would he be able to talk on the phone to investigators while they were upstairs humping?
 
So he was jerkin it to the thought of him, as brad pitt nailing himself as helena bonham carter?

Seems normal to me

lol yeah it's pretty crazy.

It's true though. Marla is just another personality of Ed Norton's.

He basically turned into Marla at the end. Either that or he and the Marla personality learned to coexist. But Marla and Ed Norton are definitely the same person. They're even dressed the same at the end.

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How else would he be able to talk on the phone to investigators while they were upstairs humping?
So he was talking on the phone to a cop, fantasizing that he's upstairs banging himself and furiously masterbating. Who says men can't multitask?!
 
Why didn't the computers just use cows? They could have implanted visions of green pastures.
 
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