The New Yorker Festival Dumps Steve Bannon Because of Hurt Feelz

[Madmick]

Your self-awareness is as absent as your shame.

You're not the dumbest guy here, but you're also not in the top 20 posters - and certainly not someone I have any respect for, let alone fear of, on an argumentative basis.

Must be that liberal humanities grading curve that has 90% liberals fellating other liberals over their worthless self-importance while too busy to learn the significance of the advent of antibiotics, the simple difference between antiviral and antibiotic treatments, or the institutions that were actually responsible for funding it and bringing it to the masses.

So proud after that epic smackdown. Thought you'd learn some humility. Hell, didn't I just catch you pontificating before reading that article about Munn? I suppose it's a bit like the zombie apocalypse. I can settle outside the Top 20 so long as I'm ahead of you, my cute little commie chipmunk.

I didn't say that. But you have reactionary tendencies, yes. And your seemingly superhuman resilience to introspection kind of magnifies them. The only thing keeping you from being fully on-board the Trump train is your basic knowledge of economics and your basic adherence to facts. If the GOP had even the semblance of economic coherency, even superficially as in the years of George W. Bush, you would happily cosign the white identity politics and objectivist proselytizing about boot straps, meritocracy, and good and bad guys

Sure you did. What, I don't get to do to you exactly what you're doing to Bannon?

As I said in my previous post to a poster actually worth engaging more artfully, declaring the benchmark for white nationalism to be open identification as such is naive bordering on ludicrous in a post-WWII world. Nevertheless, one can readily observe Bannon in his totality, from the articles he published as editor of Breitbart, to his previously mentioned odes to nation states, to shameless shoulder-rubbing with ethnonationalist groups, to his super-courageous "let them call you racists" piece.

Now, you're free to say that Bannon oft-referenced culture war is really against....err....I'm not really sure (intellectuals? feminists? the PC gestapo?) and that organizing his support along the lines of immigration and white identity politics is just a coincidence, but I'm also free to call you a ostriching hack for doing so.

As an aside, it's pretty hilarious to me that you think white nationalism is "wanton, radical politics" and not the historic baseline for conservative social policy throughout American history, whether leveled against black folks, Chinese workers, or Mexican workers.

Ah, so now editors are held to the standard that they reflect identically everything they print including editorial columns themselves, and we have several more Googles turning up nothing where Bannon advocates for white nationalism.

Your rucksack came up empty. Might want to dive back in and rummage some more looking for that shadow Nazi deep state.

 

[woodguyatl]

Steve Bannon was slated to appear at the New Yorker Festival. However, he was recently dropped following protest from anti-vaxxer, liberal icon, and B-list actor Jim Carrey; as well as several other Hollywood "celebrities".



For those that don't know Jim Carrey is best known for talking out of his butt in the Ace Ventura movie and he was a natural fit for Lloyd in Dumb and Dumber.

Is this what passes as progress these days? Bannon, like him or dislike him, he is still a person the contributed to a Presidential election. Isn't there something that society can learn from him? At what point does the left stop reinforcing the meme: "everyone I don't like is a Nazi"?

Or maybe I'm wrong and some people just don't deserve a platform.

Spoiler

Seems like a good time to replay this old gem of a tweet from Trump.

"Now Sloppy Steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone," "Too bad!"

 

[woodguyatl]

Jim is much better than Steve Banon on every level.

One gave us Liar Liar the other gave us Trump

Aren’t they the same thing?

 

[Scheme]

Jim Carrey is just mad that he's a literal lunatic, killed a woman and is riddled with STDs that he transmits to women willfully.

 

[ElKarlo]

Indeed, which is why the failures were the organizers who didn't excise Carrey from the list instead of Bannon. After all, Bannon wasn't boycotting Carrey although I'm sure he disagrees with Carrey just as vociferously.

Carrey is impossible to stomach these days:

I used to like him and felt bad that his career went south. But man he went full on crazy. A regular SJW price. No thanks JC, you're an idiot anti vax and you hate free speech

 

[Madmick]

I used to like him and felt bad that his career went south. But man he went full on crazy. A regular SJW price. No thanks JC, you're an idiot anti vax and you hate free speech

He probably blames the vaccine for giving him the STD that he had to pay off his ex-girlfriends to keep quiet about.

More like Trump than any other politician I know.

 

[ElKarlo]

What? Man, that and he basically got his gf to commit suicide. Dude is a shady weirdo

He probably blames the vaccine for giving him the STD that he had to pay off his ex-girlfriends to keep quiet about.

More like Trump than any other politician I know.

 

[DespicablePeep]

The guy who lead his GF to suicide thinks he has a moral code....

I like how idiots compare everything to Nazis and once you point out nobody advocates for endless wars and genocide they simply think being nationalistic adds to nazism.

Germany right after Versailles deal started to grow its army, when Hitler assumed power they further re-armament. The plan all along since WWI was to expand and develop through war, to get Germany out of the hole, during WWII they figured slave labor and death camps were the way.

 

[Madmick]

What? Man, that and he basically got his gf to commit suicide. Dude is a shady weirdo

IIRC, I believe he had her sign an NDA.

Dead serious.

 

[sangreporsangre]

Admittedly I'm a cynical bastard but I get the feeling that the only reason they invited him was to get some headlines by rescinding the invitation after some outcry. I mean why else would they announce that he would be there? Lefties always hated him, I don't think that conservatives have any real love for him and now Trumpsters call him Sloppy Steve. The whole thing was a publicity stunt imo.

 

[Andy Capp]

The Americans, soviets, french or british or chinese were not more racist than the Nazis . And i have a feeling i know what argument you will use to make that point so go for it.

I wouldnt be surprised if this Bannon guy wants logically so less people of certain backgrounds etc in his country. The right in the west has to be careful and skirt around race realism and nationalism tied to race etc.

Define "race realism". Serious question, what the fuck is that? Is it in the same league as "The Real America"?

 

[ElKarlo]

IIRC, I believe he had her sign an NDA.

Dead serious.

Yeah , did a little bit of Googling. He's Charlie Sheen bad. Dude is not cool at all

 

[grimballer]

LOL. Bernie is a social democrat. Hitler literally had all the social democrats, socialists (even within his own party), Marxists, and communists murdered. It's pretty well-accepted, even by intelligent right-wingers, that Hitler's party (like many across the world) commandeered the "socialist" label because it was extremely popular and was gaining momentum with anti-establishment political movements.

This has been repeated for you slow learners ad infinitum about the ideological tenets of fascism and Nazism, but the same conversation always has to be had every couple weeks.



That's not what I said. I said it wasn't integral to their platform and wasn't a policy that they used to get elected, but you're trolling. I do believe that you know a lot of "literal retards" though.

Does bannon have equivalent of brown shirts going around intimidating n beating up ppl?

No that’s more what we see from the “progressives” with antifa.

He’s not talking about racial superiority or subhumans.

I guess not being full on globalist = Nazi for ppl on the left

Comparing bannon to hitler is like saying Bernie is pol pot or mao

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I think one of the most tragic failures of post-WWII political history is the ultra-taboo-ization of Nazism and Hitler that has detached the party and the figure from what they actually were. Anymore, you can't equate anyone or anything to Hitler or the Nazis without that person/party advocating genocide, despite the fact that the Nazis didn't start engaging in that policy until 8 years after their rise to power and in the midst of the greatest war in human history. Yet, it wasn't planning massive genocide of Jewish persons that got Hitler elected. To think that would be to cartoonishly vilify the Germany people. It was more palatable and moderate ethnonationalist stylings that Hitler used in his rise to power, and even those were secondary to his larger platform of jingoism, nationalist nostalgia, illusory definition by opposition (the "elites," the "globalists," etc.), and outlandish populist promise-making. Yet, without the heil, the comparison is said to be fanatic. Hell, just look to the Swedish Alternative Party for reference: they were kicked out of their already-far-right party for being too cozy with white nationalism and neo-Nazism, yet to bring forth that comparison still draws gasps.

The idea that the Nazis are somehow outside of history and unrelated to any political or ideological strain is pretty common. The idea that the US and European allies were these anti-racist crusaders going to war for human equality is also pretty widespread and laughable.

It's been kinda forgotten that up until the late 1930s, there was substantial support for the Nazis in the US. In 1939, there was a 20,000-strong Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden!

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...9-nazi-rally-madison-square-garden-180965248/

The government was also kind of on the fence well after reports of their atrocities were widespread-

Hull apologized to the Nazi regime when a New York City judge acquitted protesters who tore a swastika flag off a German ship in New York Harbor in 1935. He apologized again in 1937 when Mayor Fiorello La Guardia called Hitler a “fanatic who is threatening the peace of the world.” Roosevelt even compelled Interior Secretary Harold Ickes to remove critical references to Hitler, Mussolini, and Nazism from a 1938 speech.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-american-papers-that-praised-hitler

So if these things happened AFTER the initial reports of the Holocaust, you can only imagine how accepted the Nazi message was in the late-1920s - early-1930s (before taking power)

 

[Trotsky]

Must be that liberal humanities grading curve that has 90% liberals fellating other liberals over their worthless self-importance while too busy to learn the significance of the advent of antibiotics, the simple difference between antiviral and antibiotic treatments, or the institutions that were actually responsible for funding it and bringing it to the masses.

Man, if you put a fraction of the effort that you put into tallying your online arguments in an attempt to convince yourself that you're smart into actually crafting solid political opinions, you might be a mediocre poster.

Sadly for you, romanticizing about times you got your betters to concede pedantic points, to which you deflected away from your (often losing) argument, won't do much to convince adults. I'll admit that, as I do have a petty streak similar to (although much smaller than) yours, I was tempted to perform a post search and dredge up some of your many embarrassing performances, but that would reflect just as badly on my character and on the value of my time as it would on your intellect.

So proud after that epic smackdown. Thought you'd learn some humility. Hell, didn't I just catch you pontificating before reading that article about Munn?

Man, this is really pathetic. Another of your great wins - and one that I expressly conceded because it was meaningless - was of my quoting a post by a poster who had not read beyond the OP, without myself reading beyond the OP, on an ongoing topic of discussion between myself and that poster.

 

[Darth_Inv1ctu5]

Steve Bannon was slated to appear at the New Yorker Festival. However, he was recently dropped following protest from anti-vaxxer, liberal icon, and B-list actor Jim Carrey; as well as several other Hollywood "celebrities".



For those that don't know Jim Carrey is best known for talking out of his butt in the Ace Ventura movie and he was a natural fit for Lloyd in Dumb and Dumber.

Is this what passes as progress these days? Bannon, like him or dislike him, he is still a person the contributed to a Presidential election. Isn't there something that society can learn from him? At what point does the left stop reinforcing the meme: "everyone I don't like is a Nazi"?

Or maybe I'm wrong and some people just don't deserve a platform.

Spoiler

Spoiler

Bannon got dropped because he's a shitmonger and a cancer, not because of Jim Carey

 

[tonni]

What? Man, that and he basically got his gf to commit suicide. Dude is a shady weirdo

Did you read the texts he sent her? Was some legit manipulative stuff.

 

[VivaRevolution]

The threat to democracy — from the left
Fareed Zakaria


Liberals need to be reminded of the origins of their ideology. In 1859, when governments around the world were still deeply repressive — banning books, censoring commentary and throwing people in jail for their beliefs — John Stuart Mill explained in his seminal work, “On Liberty,” that protection against governments was not enough: “There needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling; against the tendency of society to impose . . . its own ideas and practices . . . on those who dissent from them.” This classic defense of free speech, which Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes later called the “freedom for the thought that we hate,” is under pressure in the United States — and from the left.

We’ve been here before. Half a century ago, students were also shutting down speakers whose views they found deeply offensive. In 1974, William Shockley, the Nobel Prize-winning scientist who in many ways was the father of the computer revolution, was invited by Yale University students to defend his abhorrent view that blacks were a genetically inferior race who should be voluntarily sterilized. He was to debate Roy Innis, the African American leader of the Congress of Racial Equality. (The debate was Innis’s idea.) A campus uproar ensued, and the event was canceled. A later, rescheduled debate with another opponent was disrupted.

The difference from today is that Yale recognized that it had failed in not ensuring that Shockley could speak. It commissioned a report on free speech that remains a landmark declaration of the duty of universities to encourage debate and dissent. The report flatly states that a college “cannot make its primary and dominant value the fostering of friendship, solidarity, harmony, civility or mutual respect. . . . it will never let these values . . . override its central purpose. We value freedom of expression precisely because it provides a forum for the new, the provocative, the disturbing, and the unorthodox.”

The report added: “We take a chance, as the First Amendment takes a chance, when we commit ourselves to the idea that the results of free expression are to the general benefit in the long run, however unpleasant they may appear at the time.” It is on this bet for the long run, a bet on freedom — of thought, belief, expression and action — that liberal democracy rests.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...3fbb72-b790-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html

 

[gassius_clay]

Bannon got dropped because he's a shitmonger and a cancer, not because of Jim Carey

They wouldn't have invited him if that was the case.

 

[Darth_Inv1ctu5]

They wouldn't have invited him if that was the case.

LMAO it's like saying we wouldn't have elected Trump for president if he was a treasonous piece of shit cunt and yet here we are and he is