You didn't even make an "excuse", you just avoided the point altogether. You are trying to get me to "dog" St. Pierre and I'm a fan of his but he is not THE GOAT. He is the GOAT of the WW division, by far, but he is not even better than BJ Penn as an overall great. Like I said, he lost in his prime (tapped twice at that) and cut weight to duck, at least, the 185lb division. Penn didn't do that and Fedor never did that. Do you not think he could have fought at 205 or even heavyweight? 5'10 and 205ish with no body fat, whatsoever, vs Penn at 5'8" and 165ish with a bit of fat or even Fedor at 5'11 and 225ish with quite a bit of fat.