Thinking about a cage fight.

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Hi, so I have some questions. How do the weight classes work? Do you have to be the exact weight? How wide is the margin for error? How do i find a cagefight for myself? I know I should talk to my instructor and the guys at my gym, but other than that, what can i do? Tips for nerves before the fight? If you think you have a nugget of knowledge for me about something i didn't ask, LET ME KNOW. I don't plan on stepping in a cage for a year or so. I need to integrate a second art and improve my physical conditioning. Oh and I'm talking about an mma fight, like bellator, or UFC. I'd prefer mostly advice from people who have been in a competition before, but I'll read all the replies i get.
 
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dont do it dude take it from me 8 years ago anyone could almost go in if they were in shape and do ok as an amateur nowadays if u arnt at leasttt a blue belt on the ground and decent striking and good cardio u are gonna get mauled the levels greatly improved due to many new gyms being smarter about teaching
 
Hi, so I have some questions. How do the weight classes work? Do you have to be the exact weight? How wide is the margin for error? How do i find a cagefight for myself? I know I should talk to my instructor and the guys at my gym, but other than that, what can i do? Tips for nerves before the fight? If you think you have a nugget of knowledge for me about something i didn't ask, LET ME KNOW. I don't plan on stepping in a cage for a year or so. I need to integrate a second art and improve my physical conditioning. Oh and I'm talking about an mma fight, like bellator, or UFC. I'd prefer mostly advice from people who have been in a competition before, but I'll read all the replies i get.
Your coach will set it up. You can go indy, esp in the states where there more open with that, but the chance of getting mismatched is pretty huge there.

You usally have a "buy" on weight classes, most orgs usually have a 0.5-2lb grace. Most of the time its 1lb

My coach usually has us compete in both striking and grappling before even allowing us to do MMA. The minimum for us is 2-3 MT/KB fights or exhibitions, 2-3 BJJ tourneys. We all like the glory of stepping up and fighting, but this is a serious sport. The likelihood of injury is pretty high despite training alot. Not only is the gym's reputation on the line, but your health as well. Seen people go into competing absolutely unprepared and it was disgusting. Fuck those coaches. One event I was at, the guy after getting hit, turned to his side, and got hit midway of the other guy's combo, he ended up taking hard shots to his blindspot and was a punching bag for the good amount.

Now I haven't competed in MMA yet, but I have competed in MT a few times. As for nerves, I hate to sound generic, but we all deal with it differently. We all get nervous as shit before, and during the camp and event, but for me, once I do the walk out, and hop into the ring, it calms and its gone. Prior to that its nerve wrecking time, esp. when the shirt comes off and I gotta warm up.
It goes:

  • hate life before weigh ins esp since I cut alot of weight.. for my standards (12-16lbs)
  • love life while rehydrating and eating
  • chilled out
  • get nervous as shit because for some reason I can't sleep
  • next day (or 5h later if its a same day event)
  • -"hey J123, time to warm up, you're up in 2 fights"
  • wrap up + shirt comes off
  • "fuck...."
  • I feel the cold sweat going down and get stupid thinking about "oh fuck, the guy warming up in the room across from me is drilling fancy hook kick spinning vagina #metoo sweeps, I didn't do that all camp. I'm fucked!"
  • wait a bit, walk out
  • calm and everything is nice and silent. Feels like heaven. Then we stare down, and I hate life again. I'm ready to go and bang, and you're wasting my time introducing us? motherfucker, we both know who everyone is, the crowd is full of supporters from our gyms, e all know each other. Just let us bang mang!!!
  • then the bell rings, and its heaven again. The adrenaline has peaked at this point and I'm running on auto pilot. Feels great I don't feel pain, feels numbing
  • 1min after the fight ends, everywhere hurts
  • I eat junk food like a madman
  • 4h later I fuck some escorts at night, and hope its not a robbery setup because I'm fucked all over and probably couldn't even defend myself against a 10 year old at this point.

Basically for the span of 3h, I'm going bipolar in nervous, calm, nervous, calm, over and over and over.

Don't rely on the referee to "save" you, half those guys that ref are fucking bums that hates it. First sanctioned MT event I was at, the guy really didn't give a crap. Chicka got wrecked and was turned into a human meatbag. Ref asks if she wanted to stop, she nodded her head yes, and he was like okay, continue on guys. She gets beat for another 1.5 min, then he stops it. Seen ones at grappling tourneys where the guy gets an armbar and nearly rips the arm out, ref looks like he's stoned, guy getting wrecked is tapping like a madman, the attacker is holding it because you know if he lets go, and the ref say "I didn't see it!" he's lost a huge chance and gotta start from scratch. So one guy is trying to hold / snap the arm, the other guy is for his life trying to make sure it aint coming off even though it will, and part time volunteer bum life ref is thinking about Tatjana the 5'8 ruskie whore who he wants to bang in 2 hours.
 
dont do it dude take it from me 8 years ago anyone could almost go in if they were in shape and do ok as an amateur nowadays if u arnt at leasttt a blue belt on the ground and decent striking and good cardio u are gonna get mauled the levels greatly improved due to many new gyms being smarter about teaching
I've already been training for 2 years. If i work on my cardio, and do some boxing to patch up holes in my technique, plus keep training like i have been for another year, i will be what you just described. I can train all i want but if i don't actually fight, i wont ever really learn to fight.
 
I've already been training for 2 years. If i work on my cardio, and do some boxing to patch up holes in my technique, plus keep training like i have been for another year, i will be what you just described. I can train all i want but if i don't actually fight, i wont ever really learn to fight.
true if u just wana fight for experience then sure but if u wana go far u need to do things i said
 
Don't rely on the referee to "save" you, half those guys that ref are fucking bums that hates it. First sanctioned MT event I was at, the guy really didn't give a crap. Chicka got wrecked and was turned into a human meatbag. Ref asks if she wanted to stop, she nodded her head yes, and he was like okay, continue on guys. She gets beat for another 1.5 min, then he stops it.

Agreed with the referees been criminally incompetent/indifferent half the time for small promotions... But what about her corner? In my opinion, they have a even bigger part of the responsibility. You don't let your fighter go through this... Not only for the physical damage, but it can also mentally destroy someone. Cause I suppose she was a beginner, no?
 
Agreed with the referees been criminally incompetent/indifferent half the time for small promotions... But what about her corner? In my opinion, they have a even bigger part of the responsibility. You don't let your fighter go through this... Not only for the physical damage, but it can also mentally destroy someone. Cause I suppose she was a beginner, no?
Yeah her corner wasn't that great either, it must be a MMA gym thing to be honest. That dude din't want her to "give up", which we all know had to do with gym name than fighter safety. Yeah it was a novice fight. iirc both fighters were at the edge of the novice class. Both had 3 fights/exhibitions.

I saw one that was pretty bad at a BJJ tourney, guy kept screaming to her to do the "gameplan", but since they didn't drill it enough it didn't become instinct and she reverted back to bad habits. This guy just left half way. After she got choked out, she was crying and asking "where's my coach" like Rumble did against Cormier 2. That was hard to see, esp. in person.

I've seen some shit coaches now I think about it. that MT event with the chick I mentioned, there was a guy who was dating his fighter's mom, and man he went off on him. Called him a bitch mid fight, and basically humiliated him verbally throughout the fight, I felt bad for the kid to be honest. His mom wasn't any better either, the opponent mauled him in the clinch, and they told him to body hook their way out of it. lol
 
Your coach will set it up. You can go indy, esp in the states where there more open with that, but the chance of getting mismatched is pretty huge there.

You usally have a "buy" on weight classes, most orgs usually have a 0.5-2lb grace. Most of the time its 1lb

My coach usually has us compete in both striking and grappling before even allowing us to do MMA. The minimum for us is 2-3 MT/KB fights or exhibitions, 2-3 BJJ tourneys. We all like the glory of stepping up and fighting, but this is a serious sport. The likelihood of injury is pretty high despite training alot. Not only is the gym's reputation on the line, but your health as well. Seen people go into competing absolutely unprepared and it was disgusting. Fuck those coaches. One event I was at, the guy after getting hit, turned to his side, and got hit midway of the other guy's combo, he ended up taking hard shots to his blindspot and was a punching bag for the good amount.

Now I haven't competed in MMA yet, but I have competed in MT a few times. As for nerves, I hate to sound generic, but we all deal with it differently. We all get nervous as shit before, and during the camp and event, but for me, once I do the walk out, and hop into the ring, it calms and its gone. Prior to that its nerve wrecking time, esp. when the shirt comes off and I gotta warm up.
It goes:

  • hate life before weigh ins esp since I cut alot of weight.. for my standards (12-16lbs)
  • love life while rehydrating and eating
  • chilled out
  • get nervous as shit because for some reason I can't sleep
  • next day (or 5h later if its a same day event)
  • -"hey J123, time to warm up, you're up in 2 fights"
  • wrap up + shirt comes off
  • "fuck...."
  • I feel the cold sweat going down and get stupid thinking about "oh fuck, the guy warming up in the room across from me is drilling fancy hook kick spinning vagina #metoo sweeps, I didn't do that all camp. I'm fucked!"
  • wait a bit, walk out
  • calm and everything is nice and silent. Feels like heaven. Then we stare down, and I hate life again. I'm ready to go and bang, and you're wasting my time introducing us? motherfucker, we both know who everyone is, the crowd is full of supporters from our gyms, e all know each other. Just let us bang mang!!!
  • then the bell rings, and its heaven again. The adrenaline has peaked at this point and I'm running on auto pilot. Feels great I don't feel pain, feels numbing
  • 1min after the fight ends, everywhere hurts
  • I eat junk food like a madman
  • 4h later I fuck some escorts at night, and hope its not a robbery setup because I'm fucked all over and probably couldn't even defend myself against a 10 year old at this point.

Basically for the span of 3h, I'm going bipolar in nervous, calm, nervous, calm, over and over and over.

Don't rely on the referee to "save" you, half those guys that ref are fucking bums that hates it. First sanctioned MT event I was at, the guy really didn't give a crap. Chicka got wrecked and was turned into a human meatbag. Ref asks if she wanted to stop, she nodded her head yes, and he was like okay, continue on guys. She gets beat for another 1.5 min, then he stops it. Seen ones at grappling tourneys where the guy gets an armbar and nearly rips the arm out, ref looks like he's stoned, guy getting wrecked is tapping like a madman, the attacker is holding it because you know if he lets go, and the ref say "I didn't see it!" he's lost a huge chance and gotta start from scratch. So one guy is trying to hold / snap the arm, the other guy is for his life trying to make sure it aint coming off even though it will, and part time volunteer bum life ref is thinking about Tatjana the 5'8 ruskie whore who he wants to bang in 2 hours.
Great stuff man. Thats a good idea, to do a bjj match and a kickboxing match first. You are right, my instructor has set up mma matches for some guys at my gym before. I'm just trying to be proactive.
 
Great stuff man. Thats a good idea, to do a bjj match and a kickboxing match first. You are right, my instructor has set up mma matches for some guys at my gym before. I'm just trying to be proactive.
That's fine, nothing wrong with being proactive. Alot of us are that way as well. This business is kinda messed though, if you feel your coach is using you get out ASAP. I've been through bad coaches before and its not a good thing.

aka if you're proactive, but its clear he/she is using you to feed as a body to the fighter's they're favoring, its time to jump ship

Ammy MMA is very heavy on grapplers, you can be a great striker but most of the time it ends up with the grappler catching the kick dumping and end up in a ground fest for most of the round, thats the say, don't ignore striking, but overall most of the time its a grappling match
 
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That's fine, nothing wrong with being proactive. Alot of us are that way as well. This business is kinda messed though, if you feel your coach is using you get out ASAP. I've bee through bad coaches before and its not a good thing.

aka if you're proactive, but its clear he/she is using you to feed as a body to the fighter's they're favoring, its time to jump ship

Ammy MMA is very heavy on grapplers, you can be a great striker but most of the time it ends up with the grappler catching the kick dumping and end up in a ground fest for most of the round, thats the say, don't ignore striking, but overall most of the time its a grappling match
Yeah, thats my gyms strong point, grappling. Tbh if i tried to box a real boxer i'd get knocked out. So until i learn some boxing myself the gameplan is to suffocate them with grappling, take it to the ground and finish it with ground and pound. No worries about my instructor though. My biggest worry would be getting my ass handed to me in the standup.
 
Yeah, thats my gyms strong point, grappling. Tbh if i tried to box a real boxer i'd get knocked out. So until i learn some boxing myself the gameplan is to suffocate them with grappling, take it to the ground and finish it with ground and pound. No worries about my instructor though. My biggest worry would be getting my ass handed to me in the standup.
Just don't underestimate it. A big problem with purebred grapplers is underestimating striking, and it comes back to bite them. Take it seriously, and accept you will get hit, and work from there. Don;t be the guy "Oh its nothing, I can take a hit, I'm a tough guy, as soon as we get close, he's going to regret it".

I have seen so many cases like that it end ups very poorly. Treat it like you will end up striking for the entire 3x5min. If I end ups up being on the ground, thats great, but expect the worse and hope for the best.

Also, lets hope your coach treats camp like a MMA match and not a "BJJ + strikes", the latter is a bad do do. This game is completely different! The goal in BJJ is pass -> sub. MMA its strike -> strike -> strike -> strike til the cows come home, then go for the sub when its there. Hell even when its there, you wanna strike.

At the end of the day if you spend all round on the ground just trying to pass and sub attempts, your opponent is fine, feels tough, but still fine. If you spent all round trying to turn his face into pounded meat, its 1) demoralizing as fuck 2) no judge will say you lost that round, If you spent it on sub attempts it could do either way

3) you have mount, and then go for a sub and miss (and this happens alot!), you potentially just gave up dominant position for bottom mount/side, thats not good at all.

Also, stuff in old school BJJ isn't safe in MMA, and ends up getting your face pounded. I don't care if Damian Maia can pull it off, you're green at this, and you're not Damian. Stick to the core essentials. Look to hurt him on the ground and not go for the instant kill. Go for it when its a given gift wrap.

All in all, best of luck when you get your fight, and hope for the win.
 
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