This NFL thing has made owner of Papa John's lose his damn mind. N bombs now.

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by JonesBones, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. sub_thug

    sub_thug Red Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    9,844
    Likes Received:
    9,529
    I did a few minutes of googling, and I can't find any evidence of a POC being fired for using the "n word." Do you have any concrete evidence that it has happened?

    It would seem, at least, that different groups are statistically judged differently for the same action, at least. And this trend should show that we should rethink our position to using the word and words like it. That's all I am saying. Everyone currently using these words should stop using them.
     
    Amerikuracana likes this.
  2. OeuvrePressure

    OeuvrePressure Punky Meadows

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    41,413
    Likes Received:
    56,050
    I don't know the terms of dismissal; it was hearsay wrt the outcome, what happened wasn't disputed.
    I don't know that they referred to it in an official capacity nor whether she voluntarily left the position or not.

    What did seem queer was that another black RN (again, hearsay) got upset about her use of the word and they got into an argument about it that had to be dealt with by management, and the RN hasn't appeared in the building since, to my knowledge. This was... I wanna say 2004.
     
  3. PainIsLIfe

    PainIsLIfe Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2007
    Messages:
    18,343
    Likes Received:
    2,925
    Location:
    Virginia
    I can't think of a time I wanted to use the word; but facts shouldn't matter.
     
  4. Steve-French

    Steve-French What A Rush!!!

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2012
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    16,233
    Location:
    Marquette Michigan
    Who fucking cares? He wasn't calling anybody the N-word. The context was from an anti racism point of view during a private conference call. This shouldn't be news and people really need to grow up.
     
    Amerikuracana likes this.
  5. Steve-French

    Steve-French What A Rush!!!

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2012
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    16,233
    Location:
    Marquette Michigan
     
    Higus likes this.
  6. BudKing8806

    BudKing8806 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2017
    Messages:
    2,088
    Likes Received:
    3,299
    I can only imagine the shit storm that followed that.
     
  7. OeuvrePressure

    OeuvrePressure Punky Meadows

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    41,413
    Likes Received:
    56,050
    It got some people all flustered and upset. Typical woman shit tbh, being dumb enough to leave that shit open to the patient's passing eye. There are patients that are looking for a way to get people into trouble.
     
    Sohei likes this.
  8. Amerikuracana

    Amerikuracana Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Messages:
    39,888
    Likes Received:
    10,236
    Location:
    Macomb mi
    But Facebook liberal good guy bashers won't look at reality, and will admonish you for saying this.
     
  9. Staph infection

    Staph infection Conor bless

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,264
    Likes Received:
    2,008
    So they use a word that dehumanized them to make it less dehumanizing? The word probably would have died out or had less of an impact if it was said less. Instead it is kept at the forefront in songs, movies, and casual conversations between blacks. Puerto Rican’s use it a lot also.
     
  10. Smok3r

    Smok3r Silverback Belt Yellow Card

    Joined:
    May 18, 2018
    Messages:
    1,178
    Likes Received:
    1,387
    Is CRACKED even around anymore?

    I know MAD only goes out 6x a year now.
     
  11. sub_thug

    sub_thug Red Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    9,844
    Likes Received:
    9,529
    Well, that's not really concrete.

    Getting back to the topic, I'm not mad that the Chairman of Papa John's is stepping down for acting the way he did. I'm merely suggesting that everyone stop using these words, and if they do, the should suffer the same consequences without regard to the skin tone of the speaker.
     
  12. Higus

    Higus Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    12,032
    Likes Received:
    7,390
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Lol, it's about socially acceptable behavior, not about rule of law.
    By all means, you can go around dropping n-bombs if you're such a freedom fighter.
     
    Sohei and Edison Carasio like this.
  13. The ScorpioN

    The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!"

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2007
    Messages:
    15,961
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    Location:
    Netherrealm
    Is there any context where it would be acceptable to use the full word?
     
  14. OeuvrePressure

    OeuvrePressure Punky Meadows

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    41,413
    Likes Received:
    56,050
    Amongst black people, yes.
     
  15. The ScorpioN

    The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!"

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2007
    Messages:
    15,961
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    Location:
    Netherrealm
    Silliness. Context and intent apparently don;t mean anything.

    Do you also want to edit classic works of literature? Or only for whites?
     
  16. OeuvrePressure

    OeuvrePressure Punky Meadows

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    41,413
    Likes Received:
    56,050
    Perhaps you should speak with more specificity because I can't follow your reasoning. It seems... nonlinear, and I'm one of those people that needs coherent structure in order to understand an argument.
     
  17. The ScorpioN

    The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!"

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2007
    Messages:
    15,961
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    Location:
    Netherrealm
    My post was it's silly to crucify someone for using the word regardless of context.

    You answered with me not understanding the issue.

    I asked if the word can be used in any context.

    You answered yes, but only by black people.

    Are you following so far?
     
    OeuvrePressure likes this.
  18. OeuvrePressure

    OeuvrePressure Punky Meadows

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    41,413
    Likes Received:
    56,050
    Noooooooow I get it. You think I looked stupid.
    Well let me tell you something, you're not wrong
     
    The ScorpioN likes this.
  19. shunyata

    shunyata Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2010
    Messages:
    7,267
    Likes Received:
    573
    Location:
    The City of Angels
    If there's anything positive I can honestly say about Trump, it's that he is taking the hood off of American racism.
     
    Sohei likes this.
  20. Rebound59

    Rebound59 金繕い belt

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    11,954
    Likes Received:
    7,859
    Location:
    The Garden of the Gulf
    Well, I gleaned an entirely fucking different message because I'm not on my period.*
    The article said, "He apparently intended for the remarks to convey his antipathy to racism," but others felt otherwise. It doesn't take a master of reading comprehension to understand this means that no matter how it sounded, it was not his intent to support these things.

    The issue, then, is why did the people on the call with him react the way they did when he apparently had good intentions?
    Having worked in a call centre I can tell you it's totally fucking simple. Communication face to face conveys far far more information that voice only. I'm willing to bet there would have been far less of a reaction by the people at the other end of the phone had they been there instead.

    I agree it's still a total over-reaction and that everyone, no matter what side of these issues you happen to be on, seems to be over-sensitive these days. You can lay this squarely at the feet of Steve Bannon, who first learned how to exploit online outrage. It progressed into the current "flip out first, ask questions later" social atmosphere we live in. The only solution I can think of is to keep making reasonable statements on the issues like in my second paragraph, above, and hope it catches on.
     

Share This Page