Thurman: "Conor, you want a real fight? You want to know what a real punch feels like?"

[FightGuyOpenMind]

I like Keith Thurman, but what is he talking about? Is he being for real right now? :

"I'll take Conor in the Octagon. Ain't like he's throwing a lot of kicks anyway."
(http://www.tmz.com/2018/09/09/keith-thurman-conor-mcgregor-fight-ufc-mma/)


"I'll beat Conor McGregor's a-s. He would have been knocked out if he would have fought a real, young welterweight in Vegas that night [against Floyd Mayweather], he would have got knocked out for the whole world to see," Thurman said. "I would love to keep talking mad s--t by beating up one of those UFC guys and then be like 'yeah, put some respect on the name of boxing baby."
(https://www.ibtimes.com/keith-thurman-calls-out-conor-mcgregor-takes-swipe-floyd-mayweather-2718158)

What about Spence, where is the energy for the IBF champ, and the WW division?

Is "One Time" a "One Time Only" fighter?
Will he return?
Is he ducking Spence?
Would you be interested in a Thurman/McGregor matchup?

 

[CatchnShoot]

Ask a stupid fucking question, get a stupid answer.

TMZ is garbation.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

This is what fighters do, they name drop each other for attn. Personally, Id find it humorously amusing if was Keith trying to scoop up Mayweather's potential payday to step in a cage with Connor, as though anyone would even know Thurman's name if he was announced as a UFC fighter. People want to see Mayweather lose somehow. Nobody gives a fuck bout Thurm except boxing fans. We just want to see Spence/Thurman, so if he really were angling for a UFC "payday", he'll probably not get what he's gunning for or look dumb just like Mikey mentioning Spence when no one cares to see them fight.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

Ask a stupid fucking question, get a stupid answer.

TMZ is garbation.

Does Thurman have energy for Spence or is he dodging?

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

This is what fighters do, they name drop each other for attn. Personally, Id find it humorously amusing if was Keith trying to scoop up Mayweather's potential payday to step in a cage with Connor, as though anyone would even know Thurman's name if he was announced as a UFC fighter. People want to see Mayweather lose somehow. Nobody gives a fuck bout Thurm except boxing fans. We just want to see Spence/Thurman, so if he really were angling for a UFC "payday", he'll probably not get what he's gunning for or look dumb just like Mikey mentioning Spence when no one cares to see them fight.

Mikey calling out Spence was bizarre. However, I never count anyone out of a fight. Garcia could shake up the world.

 

[nastyleft]

Does Thurman have energy for Spence or is he dodging?

He's just looking for big money before putting himself at real risk versus Spence.

 

[nastyleft]

And yeah, Thurman sparks Conor something ugly as long as he can deal with the kicks.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

He's just looking for big money before putting himself at real risk versus Spence.

That's an angle I never thought of. If he has been gone for this long, comes back and loses stock in the division with a loss to Spence it makes sense to try to get the money while it's good. Save for a rainy day.

A fight with Conor does little to nothing in the boxing world imo. However, I think they could sell a fight in the UFC if Thurman is willing to crossover. Talking to a lot of MMA fans I honestly don't think they knew who James Toney was besides being the boxer that lost to Couture. The name won't sell but the concept will.

It could be hyped as "The Fight That Floyd Wouldn't Take". It would be a working title, but I could see Dana and the UFC selling it.

 

[codfather]

Thurman hasn't fought for over 18 months.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

Thurman hasn't fought for over 18 months.

I hope he doesn't intend to use Conor as a tune up for Spence; both southpaws. lol

 

[Woldog]

When was the last time Thurman fought? 2012? 1912?

 

[randomg1t]

thurman needs to fight someone.

but he would absolutely put conor to sleep.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

And yeah, Thurman sparks Conor something ugly as long as he can deal with the kicks.

Mcgregor takes him down and subs or ground and pounds him. I’d put money on it

Id heavily favour Keith in a kickboxing matchup because he knocks connor out as soon as he closes the distance. All he needs to do is learn how to defend kicks and some conditioning for his legs

 

[burningspear]

At this point everything Keith says sounds like a Spence duck. Shame.

And Conor's on a different level, guy's a walking industry, he's not fucking with some shelved titlist.

 

[JayE]

At this point everything Keith says sounds like a Spence duck. Shame.

And Conor's on a different level, guy's a walking industry, he's not fucking with some shelved titlist.

I don't think Thurman is any rush to fight Spence, but I think he can be somewhat forgiven with all his injuries (it's not like he stands to gain anything making up all these injuries, after all, he's only got the one belt now and hasn't really made that much in his career). It would be a lot to expect him to fight Spence before a tune-up, as well. If he refuses past then, we have a guy who's avoiding the fight, but not before that (unless we can show that he's making up his injuries).

 

[PUO3]

Please everyone stop calling out fighters from other sports.

 

[FightGuyOpenMind]

Mcgregor takes him down and subs or ground and pounds him. I’d put money on it

Id heavily favour Keith in a kickboxing matchup because he knocks connor out as soon as he closes the distance. All he needs to do is learn how to defend kicks and some conditioning for his legs

I could see that if Conor was a specialist. However, I respectfully disagree. Here is why:

Boxers are very comfortable in the clinch. It is not a skillset they usually display because of the ref breaking it up. However, some of them have great clinch work and are strong there (Remember Roberto Duran). Sparring and gym wars have no refs so it is more easy to view in training.

Boxers are conditioned mentally and physically to fight, and fight through grueling conditions. Personal example, I recently did the Wingate Test at the local university. It is a test of anaerobic power output. I had more revs per minute than anyone else; a total of 17 test subjects. The high for my watts was somewhere close to 1,000 and I only decreased about 25% of overall power ouput measuring from my high to my low in that minute of maximal effort. Some of those subjects were collegiate athletes to include football and soccer players.

I am a club level athlete. By no means am I world class like Keith Thurman. This conditioning, and fight mentality came from boxing. Boxers are tough, they will fight, and they will push through adversity.

Furthermore, Thurman is more coordinated with his feet than James Toney was (the apparent gold standard for boxing v mma). It is hard to close the distance with someone who knows how to move, and get off your center line, especially when they're firing shots at you. Thurman's footwork is TDD, and his punching power is TDD.

I think the only realistic way Conor takes him down is with a low single. I don't foresee this because of his lack of specialty in the area, and the skillset Thurman brings to the table. Is it possible? Sure, anything else. I just disagree in its likelihood.

 

[HardasNAILZ]

Oh dear.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

I could see that if Conor was a specialist. However, I respectfully disagree. Here is why:

Boxers are very comfortable in the clinch. It is not a skillset they usually display because of the ref breaking it up. However, some of them have great clinch work and are strong there (Remember Roberto Duran). Sparring and gym wars have no refs so it is more easy to view in training.

Boxers are conditioned mentally and physically to fight, and fight through grueling conditions. Personal example, I recently did the Wingate Test at the local university. It is a test of anaerobic power output. I had more revs per minute than anyone else; a total of 17 test subjects. The high for my watts was somewhere close to 1,000 and I only decreased about 25% of overall power ouput measuring from my high to my low in that minute of maximal effort. Some of those subjects were collegiate athletes to include football and soccer players.

I am a club level athlete. By no means am I world class like Keith Thurman. This conditioning, and fight mentality came from boxing. Boxers are tough, they will fight, and they will push through adversity.

Furthermore, Thurman is more coordinated with his feet than James Toney was (the apparent gold standard for boxing v mma). It is hard to close the distance with someone who knows how to move, and get off your center line, especially when they're firing shots at you. Thurman's footwork is TDD, and his punching power is TDD.

I think the only realistic way Conor takes him down is with a low single. I don't foresee this because of his lack of specialty in the area, and the skillset Thurman brings to the table. Is it possible? Sure, anything else. I just disagree in its likelihood.

Fair enough dude. I boxed/kickboxed at a respected mma gym where I lived a couple of years ago. I couldn’t do mma because of a long standing back injury but I did work with a few of the mma fighters with their stand up, and tried some takedown defence. i appreciate my footwork is no where near the standard of an elite professional boxer, but these guys took me down at will. I would be surprised if he could keep it on the feet for too long, even against a specialist striker like mcgregor. He may tag him and knock him out before he can do this, but I would expect Conor to have enough wrestling to put a boxer on his back. Then it’s game over. Also a cage is far larger than a boxing ring, and it’s far harder to cut off the ring. That could potentially work in the favour of both fighters though

My point is it’s the best way for Connor to end the fight. Keith’s footwork and movement will be too good for Connor on the feet and imo it wouldn’t take long for him to close the distance and knock him out.

 

[aries]

I could see that if Conor was a specialist. However, I respectfully disagree. Here is why:

Boxers are very comfortable in the clinch. It is not a skillset they usually display because of the ref breaking it up. However, some of them have great clinch work and are strong there (Remember Roberto Duran). Sparring and gym wars have no refs so it is more easy to view in training.

Boxers are conditioned mentally and physically to fight, and fight through grueling conditions. Personal example, I recently did the Wingate Test at the local university. It is a test of anaerobic power output. I had more revs per minute than anyone else; a total of 17 test subjects. The high for my watts was somewhere close to 1,000 and I only decreased about 25% of overall power ouput measuring from my high to my low in that minute of maximal effort. Some of those subjects were collegiate athletes to include football and soccer players.

I am a club level athlete. By no means am I world class like Keith Thurman. This conditioning, and fight mentality came from boxing. Boxers are tough, they will fight, and they will push through adversity.

Furthermore, Thurman is more coordinated with his feet than James Toney was (the apparent gold standard for boxing v mma). It is hard to close the distance with someone who knows how to move, and get off your center line, especially when they're firing shots at you. Thurman's footwork is TDD, and his punching power is TDD.

I think the only realistic way Conor takes him down is with a low single. I don't foresee this because of his lack of specialty in the area, and the skillset Thurman brings to the table. Is it possible? Sure, anything else. I just disagree in its likelihood.

And James Toney was a great boxer but it didn't stop him getting low singled by Couture and then the fight was over. Connor has enough wrestling and BJJ to take down Thurman pretty easily and submit him.