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tom clancy sucks. His books always lead to nothing.
This show flat sucks. The whole point of the story, a story about American CIA agents chasing murderous terrorists, P.S., is that America is evil and the cause of the world's problems. LITERALLY the only relatable characters in the whole show are the terrorists they're chasing.
The only thing I appreciated about this show was the fact they made the villains human, and resourceful. I never considered them relatable because nothing justifies murderous terrorism, but I loved the origin of the two brothers, the scars, and the forging of hatred. The writers gave them an excellent reason to hate, but I don't think they ever wanted the audience to like them or even think they were decent on any level.
I didn't care even a little bit about any of the characters at all, no Americans, no terrorists. It's weird because everyone had a cool backstory, but that was all. No great performances, no personality at all.
Krasinski turned out to be a bad decision, he was all wrong for this. He kept making the "Jim exasperated face" from the office, and it was impossible for me to take him seriously. I like Wendell Pierce but didn't buy him at all as the world weary American Muslim.
I understood it to make the story over the first episode and a half, but then the political agenda just got too stupid. It wasn't just the brothers story line, it was all of the politics put into it. The drone pilot, Greer being "the real Muslim" character, never missing an opportunity to present the Western World as a whole as racist and oppressive.
I totally agree with this. The characters are empty shells with the names of Tom Clancy characters, who they don't even seem to actually be based on, for story purposes and little else. The Jim Greer storyline drives me up the wall. In the books he was an admiral whose wife stood by his side while he died horribly from cancer, at that marriage was sort of a central part to his character. In the show he's not only a divorced failure, but he's a Muslim to boot.
Pierce is always going to excell as long as he plays this sort of character, because he's essentially playing Bunk Moreland, just with a different name. I don't mean to make that sound like a disparagement of his ability, but it almost seems as if the writers came to him and said "He Wendell, we want you play Bunk Moreland in this show, but we're just going to call you Jim. Think you can do that?"
I'll join the it was good crowd alongside you, I enjoyed it for what it was. Kept me entertained, the actor that played the main bad guy shined. He showed a full range from the beginning when he was just trying to get a job to the very end when he was full on revenge mode.I just binged it. A lot of people were complaining about Greer but man it was a good series. I know a lot of people are going to nit pick but I really enjoyed it.
I do agree on the switch on Greer from Navy Admiral to Muslim. Not really needed and drastically changes the character. That said the character is well acted and I enjoy his ruthlessness and his managerial style shown.
They do a good job of showing the political bullshit and incompetence of many senior leaders of the Intel community.
Also shows the war is not black and white and sometimes bad guys and good guys have complex motives.
It could have been much much worse with the current trend of remakes.
I feel Amazon delivered a watchable series, Krasinski delivers. But then again I never watched The Office so i don't have association of him as Jim Halpert.
Don't know if any of this is true, but check these quotes from Fischer:
You lead to nothingtom clancy sucks. His books always lead to nothing.