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Prime Silva beats Cliffy 99/100. Both wins complete flukes.
I completely disagree.
Anderson was extremely vulnerable to wrestling and the Chris has great mma wrestling. Hes like a Chael Sonnen 2.0, not to mention he had zero trouble at all with Silva in two separate fights.
I think Weidman beats Silva the majority of the time if they fight, not to mention Silva's ufc career has a permanent asterisks next to it.
They where both in their prime. Anderson had NOTHING.
False. Anderson could have easily killed Weidman in '84 when he was 9 and the Chris was an infantAlright, so it's common knowledge that Anderson Silva didn't win a single minute against The Chris Weidman in both their fights combined.
The Chris just had his number in those fights, it's not debatable.
Lets take USADA out of the picture. Would the outcome be any different if Anderson was still in his prime and/or motivated?
Or is The Chris just the superior fighter and a nightmare matchup for Anderson?
How would a third fight go today when both fighters have declined a bit?
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Chris probably beats Yoel 9/10 times as well. Cardio-for-seconds Yoel.
u know whenever theres some dominant fighter (or athlete in any sport for that matter) i almost never want them to lose partially because you just know whoever beats team is not going to be worthy of all the praise that comes with being the one to beat the unbeatable oneI don’t know but Anderson will always be in GOAT conversations and Chris is almost forgotten already.
Yup, it’s very rare that the one who actually beats them becomes that great. Jones/Shogun and GSP/Hughes are the exception.u know whenever theres some dominant fighter (or athlete in any sport for that matter) i almost never want them to lose partially because you just know whoever beats team is not going to be worthy of all the praise that comes with being the one to beat the unbeatable one
There was a decline in Anderson after the Griffin fight. His “Prime” was from Leben fight to the Forrest fight. Weidman gets destroyed by that version of Anderson.
These prime arguments are tough. I think it was clear that Anderson had lost a step by the time of the Weidman fights, so earlier in his career it seems fair to say he'd have dealt with that same Weidman better. But would it have been better enough? Weidman was a tough match up for him and would be at any time of Silva's career.
At least we're past talking about Weidman's win as a fluke.
Vanderlei/Sakuraba as well.Yup, it’s very rare that the one who actually beats them becomes that great. Jones/Shogun and GSP/Hughes are the exception.