Trump Calls Female Senator "Used" In Provocative Tweet

[BearGrounds]

I can see weeds all around-- you said I cant and pointed out a specific example you assumed I would disagree with you on. We have big problems everywhere especially in politics. The difference with Trump is that while being every bit as bad as the worst of politicians he also brings the very worst of it-- what used to be said in private by only the lowest class politicians- right out in the open for all to see and hear.

I said it was hard to imagine you were noticing the degradation taking place elsewhere, based on your initial post. You've since made your position more clear, although you didn't say whether you agreed or disagreed with my example.

I somewhat prefer such things out in the open, although I see your point.

It is disgusting and creates an environment where the very worst is emboldened in people. Trump is a needle mover and not in a good way by a long shot. To defend him is a disgusting and degenerate act.

I'd say it depends on what you're defending him on.

But, but, but, Hilary, but but Clinton...... They suck also. Horribly. Bill is probably every bit the sexual degenerate that Trump is. Fuck him. The difference is that aside from hearings on the subject I did not have to worry about Bill corrupting my daughter with his presidential speech.

Just because a politician is sly about it, doesn't mean they're not corrupting our young. You can be presidential and be every bit as destructive and dangerous, if not moreso, as it's easier to be deceptive that way.

Also I really doubt that the democratic party would even produce such an idiot as Trump.for president but if they did and he was exactly like Trump I really don't think they would support and defend him like the Republicans are Trump.

I would not that's for damn sure.

Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. But Trump beat the dems. So if he's an idiot, what does that make the democratic party for losing to him? Certainly not a party of geniuses.

They supported a detestable human like Hot Sauce Hillary. Given that, it's hard to see them as being any better.

 

[irish_thug]

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LOL

Stalker identified. Weak.

 

[Andy Capp]

USA Today editorial board doesn't usually do these kinds of articles.

A president who'd all but call a senator a whore is unfit to clean toilets in Obama's presidential library or to shine George W. Bush's shoes: Our view

With his latest tweet, clearly implying that a United States senator would trade sexual favors for campaign cash, President Trump has shown he is not fit for office. Rock bottom is no impediment for a president who can always find room for a new low.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday dismissed the president's smear as a misunderstanding because he used similar language about men. Of course, words used about men and women are different. When candidate Trump said a journalist was bleeding from her "wherever," he didn't mean her nose.

And as is the case with all of Trump's digital provocations, the president's words were deliberate. He pours the gasoline of sexist language and lights the match gleefully knowing how it will burst into flame in a country reeling from the #MeToo moment....

At least it's evident that the constant lies are crushing Huckabee-Sanders' soul; there's quite a difference from when she started until now.

 

[Pinyin]

Delusional? hahah
Please explain how Trump is draining any swamp and not making a worse one.
Mexico is going to pay... that was a good one.
Flynn "lock her up" ...how did that go Mikey?
Cheaper healthcare and everyone would be covered....oh really?

Maybe you can remember some of his other rally hits that were just nonsense.

Gorka, Price, Flynn, Bannon is the only swamp he has rid of so far and he hired them.

Maybe you should worry about your queer prime minister Trudeau turning your country into an ISIS stronghold. I'm pretty sure we are doing just fine with our great leader over here in the US. Creepy canadian's need to mind their own business.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Delusional? hahah
Please explain how Trump is draining any swamp and not making a worse one.
Mexico is going to pay... that was a good one.
Flynn "lock her up" ...how did that go Mikey?
Cheaper healthcare and everyone would be covered....oh really?

Maybe you can remember some of his other rally hits that were just nonsense.

Gorka, Price, Flynn, Bannon is the only swamp he has rid of so far and he hired them.

Omarosa is gone too now. She was garbage anyways.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/omarosa-manigault-newman-white-house/index.html

 

[TheGreatA]

Saying that she would "do anything" for his campaign contributions. A female coming to a man and saying she will "do anything" to get something from him is a pornographic trope. Also, on the Access Hollywood tape, Trump talks about how when "you're a star" you can "do anything. Grab em by the pussy, you can do anything." Given Trump's track record especially, the implication becomes obvious.

Yet Trump has also said that about men. He obviously meant it in the context of the said person being crooked and willing to exchange political favours for donations. None of what he said had any sort of a sexual tone whatsoever, other than to those who are already predisposed to read his texts as sexist or racist. That is their problem, not his. He is not liable to "watch his words" because ignorant people misinterpret them.

This is just another American-made nothingburger. Nothing more. A hysterical people.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Yet Trump has also said that about men. He obviously meant it in the context of the said person being crooked and willing to exchange political favours for donations. None of what he said had any sort of a sexual tone whatsoever, other than to those who are already predisposed to read his texts as sexist or racist. That is their problem, not his. He is not liable to "watch his words" because ignorant people misinterpret them.

This is just another American-made nothingburger. Nothing more. A hysterical people.

It's perfectly reasonable to view an American politician using American sexual innuendos and American tropes from an American lens. Maybe "do anything" has zero sexual connotations in Finland, but here in America we ALL know what the implication is, and anyone who denies such is a partisan hack. Especially when Trump was already caught on tape using the term "do anything" specifically to include "grabbing em by the pussy". Trump has said that men have "begged" him for donations, but he threw in the sexual innuendo specifically to insult and smear a woman.

I admit some religious people or feminists or whatever might get all hysterical about such language, but I sure as hell don't. I don't like modern-day feminism or even Kirsten Gillibrand herself. She seems like an opportunist who almost completely changed her political views overnight and has done questionable things like embrace the Mattress Girl and refer to the innocent man who was falsely accused as "her rapist". That said, it's beneath the dignity of the Presidency for Trump to tweet that out, and even Kirsten doesn't deserve to be talked about that way by a man in his position. I'm just calling it as it is.

 

[TheGreatA]

It's perfectly reasonable to view an American politician using American sexual innuendos and American tropes from an American lens. Maybe "do anything" has zero sexual connotations in Finland, but here in America we ALL know what the implication is, and anyone who denies such is a partisan hack. Especially when Trump was already caught on tape using the term "do anything" specifically to include "grabbing em by the pussy". Trump has said that men have "begged" him for donations, but he threw in the sexual innuendo specifically to insult and smear a woman.

I admit some religious people or feminists or whatever might get all hysterical about such language, but I sure as hell don't. I don't like modern-day feminism or even Kirsten Gillibrand herself. She seems like an opportunist who almost completely changed her political views overnight and has done questionable things like embrace the Mattress Girl and refer to the innocent man who was falsely accused as "her rapist". That said, it's beneath the dignity of the Presidency for Trump to tweet that out, and even Kirsten doesn't deserve to be talked about that way by a man in his position. I'm just calling it as it is.

Nope, you don't "all" know what the implication is. It is only you, and others that are politically motivated to believe the worst about Trump, who pretend to know this supposed hidden "implication".

The truth is that there is no implication, and that you can find dozens of cases on Trump's twitter where he slashes political rivals, both male and female, for "begging him" and for "doing anything" in exchange for monetary donations, which are among his most frequent insults. That's the clear-cut context here, and the sexist angle is simply something that the media is working in order to gain more steam behind their endless attempt to discredit Trump as a president.

The bullshit spin about this being some sort of an "American thing" where only Americans truly "get" what he is saying, just doesn't work here, sorry. I know better than that. This day alone I've corrected about a dozen misunderstandings that Americans have constructed for themselves, due to a lack of basic reading comprehension, predisposed agenda, echoing of others opinions, or outright media propaganda that intentionally misinforms them.

 

[franklinstower]

Nope, you don't "all" know what the implication is. It is only you, and others that are politically motivated to believe the worst about Trump, who pretend to know this supposed hidden "implication".

The truth is that there is no implication, and that you can find dozens of cases on Trump's twitter where he slashes political rivals, both male and female, for "begging him" and for "doing anything" in exchange for monetary donations, which are among his most frequent insults. That's the clear-cut context here, and the sexist angle is simply something that the media is working in order to gain more steam behind their endless attempt to discredit Trump as a president.

The bullshit spin about this being some sort of an "American thing" where only Americans truly "get" what he is saying, just doesn't work here, sorry. I know better than that. This day alone I've corrected about a dozen misunderstandings that Americans have constructed for themselves, due to a lack of basic reading comprehension, predisposed agenda, echoing of others opinions, or outright media propaganda that intentionally misinforms them.

He says what he says JUST SO that it can be taken two ways. I know people who speak just like him-- it is a common low end, low class approach. Its not a new thing. Its all according to his intent. That more than anything is why I so despise him-- hes just a typical fucking troll only he is in the white house. It is disgraceful that he would use the dignity of a woman so recklessly in order to troll his enemies. He cheapens even the sexist slurs-- who else do you know that has an education that can cheapen a sexist slur? The reason so many news outlets dont see the troll dimension of trump is because that behavior is beneath them-- they cant even relate to it.

Trump communication is beneath the dignity of any conversation I would ever care to have frankly.

 

[TheGreatA]

He says what he says JUST SO that it can be taken two ways. I know people who speak just like him-- it is a common low end, low class approach. Its not a new thing. Its all according to his intent. That more than anything is why I so despise him-- hes just a typical fucking troll only he is in the white house. It is disgraceful that he would use the dignity of a woman so recklessly in order to troll his enemies. He cheapens even the sexist slurs-- who else do you know that has an education that can cheapen a sexist slur? The reason so many news outlets dont see the troll dimension of trump is because that behavior is beneath them-- they cant even relate to it.

Trump communication is beneath the dignity of any conversation I would ever care to have frankly.

People who have worked with Trump generally credit him as being "easy-going" and a "gentleman".

He only adopts the tough guy persona for his political enemies, otherwise he would've been ripped apart already by more experienced political foes. It's a dirty game, and he's simply willing to go as low as his enemies. But if you treat him with respect, he will return that respect. If you insult him, then he returns the insult.

Unlike most politicians, he doesn't need to go behind your back in order to stab you. He's willing to go punch-for-punch. His responsiveness under fire is among some of the redeeming qualities that he has.

The problems with Trump have more to do with ignorance and a lack of a proper intellectual foundation, which would allow him to circumvent some of the problems that he is stuck with, as a newcomer to politics.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Nope, you don't "all" know what the implication is. It is only you, and others that are politically motivated to believe the worst about Trump, who pretend to know this supposed hidden "implication".

The truth is that there is no implication, and that you can find dozens of cases on Trump's twitter where he slashes political rivals, both male and female, for "begging him" and for "doing anything" in exchange for monetary donations, which are among his most frequent insults. That's the clear-cut context here, and the sexist angle is simply something that the media is working in order to gain more steam behind their endless attempt to discredit Trump as a president.

The bullshit spin about this being some sort of an "American thing" where only Americans truly "get" what he is saying, just doesn't work here, sorry. I know better than that. This day alone I've corrected about a dozen misunderstandings that Americans have constructed for themselves, due to a lack of basic reading comprehension, predisposed agenda, echoing of others opinions, or outright media propaganda that intentionally misinforms them.

In all of the examples you gave, he didn't use the "do anything" part and the sexual innuendo just wasn't there because he was talking about men. This is patently obvious to people with an intellect and a social sense who aren't biased to not see it or not want to see it. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because my position is well founded and dead set and yours is dead set too for whatever reason. Trump doesn't even use dog whistles, he uses human whistles. It was heard loud and clear by the American people, pro, anti or neutral to Trump.

 

[franklinstower]

People who have worked with Trump generally credit him as being "easy-going" and a "gentleman".

He only adopts the tough guy persona for his political enemies, otherwise he would've been ripped apart already by more experienced political foes. It's a dirty game, and he's simply willing to go as low as his enemies. But if you treat him with respect, he will return that respect. If you insult him, then he returns the insult.

Unlike most politicians, he doesn't need to go behind your back in order to stab you. He's willing to go punch-for-punch. His responsiveness under fire is among some of the redeeming qualities that he has.

The problems with Trump have more to do with ignorance and a lack of a proper intellectual foundation, which would allow him to circumvent some of the problems that he is stuck with, as a newcomer to politics.

"People who have worked with Trump" sort of makes it sound like "most people." That is far from the case as many have come forth and attested to the very worst that people think of him......

I dont view anything in this thread as having even a remote connection to "toughness." I truly and without exaggeration see his behavior as a profound classlessness and a real lack of maturation on his part. I do not mean this in a flippant way-- it is an outstanding characteristic of his. I cannot see him as tough in any way that is relate-able to me....

I will assume you are talking about more than his mistreatment and mis-characterization of women when you say tough otherwise I would be forced to think you may also lack in developmental stages or at the least have a deep resentment and/or wound that causes a willful blindness.

It really is a policy of mine, I am not making this up to get at Trump, when I end up interacting with someone on this level, trolling and double speak and baiting, I really do have a sort of sympathy and pity for them. The pity is genuine-- I do not wish ill on them, but I also know immediately that nothing good can come from the discussion. I wont waste even one minute on it.

This degenerate stance is sitting in the white house.

 

[Throttlehead]

Maybe you should worry about your queer prime minister Trudeau turning your country into an ISIS stronghold. I'm pretty sure we are doing just fine with our great leader over here in the US. Creepy canadian's need to mind their own business.

As bad as Trudeau is, Id take 3 of him to bullshitting, know-nothing, lying, pussy grabbing, conman Trump. ISIS stronghold, really? Alex Jones is eating your brains from the inside out. Pretty sure you, Rip and ODB were triplets separated at birth and Rip got all the brains.

 

[TheGreatA]

In all of the examples you gave, he didn't use the "do anything" part and the sexual innuendo just wasn't there because he was talking about men. This is patently obvious to people with an intellect and a social sense who aren't biased to not see it or not want to see it. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because my position is well founded and dead set and yours is dead set too for whatever reason. Trump doesn't even use dog whistles, he uses human whistles. It was heard loud and clear by the American people, pro, anti or neutral to Trump.

Nope, this is only obvious to people who want to see it. Your intellect and social sense have jack-shit to do it.

Your brain has been turned into mush due to the social media campaign over women's harassment, leading you to jump into conclusions about other people's "hidden meanings" about the female gender, and you don't even know it. It's sad, but I understand. That is the power of propaganda.

The double standards regarding men and women, have been properly set up and imposed for the people who are quick to pick up any type of "social signals" that seemingly benefit them as far as their "social skills" and ability to form bonds with the like-minded. Yet it is merely a thought pattern that is being enforced upon them, to seize social control over their lives, and to mislead them from being able to objectively observe reality based on the available facts.

The available facts here, outside of your "circumstantial" evidence based on CNN bullshit and Facebook feedback loops pumping up Trump being a rapist, Russian agent, and white nationalist, is that he has made no sexual connotation whatsoever, has used terminology which is repeated in dozens of his tweets against other political rivals (both male and female), and has also denied making any such connotation.

It is very telling that this precise thread was based upon the false premise of Trump calling the female senator "used" (like an old prostitute), even though he obviously used the word in the context of the female senator using Bill Clinton. Once that narrative died down, then it went to the next best thing in order to save face.

 

[TheGreatA]

"People who have worked with Trump" sort of makes it sound like "most people." That is far from the case as many have come forth and attested to the very worst that people think of him......

I dont view anything in this thread as having even a remote connection to "toughness." I truly and without exaggeration see his behavior as a profound classlessness and a real lack of maturation on his part. I do not mean this in a flippant way-- it is an outstanding characteristic of his. I cannot see him as tough in any way that is relate-able to me....

I will assume you are talking about more than his mistreatment and mis-characterization of women when you say tough otherwise I would be forced to think you may also lack in developmental stages or at the least have a deep resentment and/or wound that causes a willful blindness.

It really is a policy of mine, I am not making this up to get at Trump, when I end up interacting with someone on this level, trolling and double speak and baiting, I really do have a sort of sympathy and pity for them. The pity is genuine-- I do not wish ill on them, but I also know immediately that nothing good can come from the discussion. I wont waste even one minute on it.

This degenerate stance is sitting in the white house.

You have no "pity", just smug self-contentedness in your own false conclusions, and conceit against anyone with a different point of view, that have been derived from the collective hive-mind which has come to dominate your thought patterns.

When you meet men that are not under social control, that actually come to their own conclusions, free of propaganda, free of social echo chambers, free of predisposed agendas, it offends your world-view and makes you very, very angry at the world.

This whole "psycho-analysis" game can be played by both sides. Safe to say, neither are experts on the other.

 

[franklinstower]

You have no "pity", just smug self-contentedness in your own false conclusions, and conceit against anyone with a different point of view, that have been derived from the collective hive-mind which has come to dominate your thought patterns.

When you meet men that are not under social control, that actually come to their own conclusions, free of propaganda, free of social echo chambers, free of predisposed agendas, it offends your world-view and makes you very, very angry at the world.

This whole "psycho-analysis" game can be played by both sides. Safe to say, neither are experts on the other.

I tell you about people I meet who use dishonest trickery and double talk and you equate them to men who are not under social control..... OK man.