Trump eases Ethanol standards.

[44nutman]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/climate/trump-ethanol-farmers-midterm-election.html
Great now all my small engine tools I have will be fucked up and we get more pollution.
So much winning.
I am tired of these socialist programs for farmers. I thought we were a capitalist country, but it seems that all of Trump's policies are aimed at his voters. Why not have programs that help all Americans.
My tax dollars has to support an industry that the Presidents policies have hurt. It would be easier if Trump just gave Farmers a couple grand and all they have to do is vote Republican and the beauty of this bribery is the rest of America pays for it.
Trump has been letting his inner Bernie Bros loose lately.

 

[Happy Man]

OP. You can still use non ethanol gasoline if you want to, so your small engines won't get messed up

And yes, farmers do get lots of handouts. I'd rather keep small independent farms than have them all go belly up and get bought out by mega corporate farms.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

OP. You can still use non ethanol gasoline if you want to, so your small engines won't get messed up

And yes, farmers do get lots of handouts. I'd rather keep small independent farms than have them all go belly up and get bought out by mega corporate farms.

Are there even small independent farms anymore? It is so damned depressing to see all of the small towns in Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, the Dakotas, etc., turned into ghost towns like something out of the Twilight Zone.

 

[Happy Man]

Are there even small independent farms anymore? It is so damned depressing to see all of the small towns in Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, the Dakotas, etc., turned into ghost towns like something out of the Twilight Zone.

You bet there are. My fam is small town. Plenty of small single Homestead farms that have still been passed down generation to generation.

However there is just a ton of money in smaller agricultural towns, but it's unevenly spread. It's of kulaks that have bought many other farms over the years and those farmers are multi millionaires.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

OP. You can still use non ethanol gasoline if you want to.

Shhhh. Let him screech.

 

[SONNEN]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/climate/trump-ethanol-farmers-midterm-election.html
Great now all my small engine tools I have will be fucked up and we get more pollution.
So much winning.
I am tired of these socialist programs for farmers. I thought we were a capitalist country, but it seems that all of Trump's policies are aimed at his voters. Why not have programs that help all Americans.
My tax dollars has to support an industry that the Presidents policies have hurt. It would be easier if Trump just gave Farmers a couple grand and all they have to do is vote Republican and the beauty of this bribery is the rest of America pays for it.
Trump has been letting his inner Bernie Bros loose lately.

Ethanol is cleaner, renewable, and doesn't fund money to shithole terrorists countries. Just dont let the ethanol sit too long and your mowing lawn business will be ok...

Farm subsidies bring us gas and food, pretty impressive.

 

[Otto!]

Are there even small independent farms anymore? It is so damned depressing to see all of the small towns in Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, the Dakotas, etc., turned into ghost towns like something out of the Twilight Zone.

I am retiring in a few years and my wife and I are buying a small farm, just to keep busy as we get older. It’s sad to see big corporations buying out family farms, but there are still lots out there.

 

[44nutman]

Ethanol is cleaner, renewable, and doesn't fund money to shithole terrorists countries. Just dont let the ethanol sit too long and your mowing lawn business will be ok...

Farm subsidies bring us gas and food, pretty impressive.

Not always.
https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-vehicles/better-biofuels/truth-about-ethanol#.W71P1uSWwYA
Don't worry, big oil is pissed with this move, and they have way more stroke then any farmer lobby. I would not be surprised if this does not last long.
Also we supply weapons to those shit hole terrorist countries, and if you want to not fund money to them, then transition to solar and wind power, like most of the rest of the world is doing.

 

[44nutman]

Shhhh. Let him screech.

Never would have pegged you as a socialist.

 

[trac209]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/climate/trump-ethanol-farmers-midterm-election.html
Great now all my small engine tools I have will be fucked up and we get more pollution.
So much winning.
I am tired of these socialist programs for farmers. I thought we were a capitalist country, but it seems that all of Trump's policies are aimed at his voters. Why not have programs that help all Americans.
My tax dollars has to support an industry that the Presidents policies have hurt. It would be easier if Trump just gave Farmers a couple grand and all they have to do is vote Republican and the beauty of this bribery is the rest of America pays for it.
Trump has been letting his inner Bernie Bros loose lately.

Your post shows you know fuck all about engines.... ethanol is hard on the gaskets and o rings in smaller carbureted engines for one. It’s also burns about 40 percent more than regular unleaded gasoline. So if 10 percent of your fuel is ethanol your actually getting shitter mpg than reg unleaded gasoline. And burning ten percent ethanol does absolutely zero to help you emissions.

 

[Quipling]

Your post shows you know fuck all about engines.... ethanol is hard on the gaskets and o rings in smaller carbureted engines for one. It’s also burns about 40 percent more than regular unleaded gasoline. So if 10 percent of your fuel is ethanol your actually getting shitter mpg than reg unleaded gasoline. And burning ten percent ethanol does absolutely zero to help you emissions.

Your post shows you know fuckall about reading comprehension.

Read the article and try again.

Trump is increasing the amount of ethanol allowed in gasoline.

 

[44nutman]

Your post shows you know fuck all about engines.... ethanol is hard on the gaskets and o rings in smaller carbureted engines for one. It’s also burns about 40 percent more than regular unleaded gasoline. So if 10 percent of your fuel is ethanol your actually getting shitter mpg than reg unleaded gasoline. And burning ten percent ethanol does absolutely zero to help you emissions.

Not sure why you quoted me, but I was complaining about my tools with small engines, i.e lawnmower, blower, weed whacker, edger will all be fucked up more now.

 

[Rod1]

Ethanol is cleaner, renewable, and doesn't fund money to shithole terrorists countries. Just dont let the ethanol sit too long and your mowing lawn business will be ok...

Farm subsidies bring us gas and food, pretty impressive.

Ethanol is not renewable when coming from corn, because of the massive amounts of non-renewables that are used in farming.

Also ethanol has lower BTUs.

 

[44nutman]

Ethanol is not renewable when coming from corn, because of the massive amounts of non-renewables that are used in farming.

Also ethanol has lower BTUs.

Other grasses are a better alternative than corn, but Iowa is full of REpublican voters and corn, so we use corn which is much inferior so Grassley can get re-elected until he dies.

 

[trac209]

Not sure why you quoted me, but I was complaining about my tools with small engines, i.e lawnmower, blower, weed whacker, edger will all be fucked up more now.

Shit my bad I read the artical wrong as he was reducing the amount of ethanol not increasing it lol. Yes ethanol sucks,my apologies

 

[woodguyatl]

OP. You can still use non ethanol gasoline if you want to, so your small engines won't get messed up

And yes, farmers do get lots of handouts. I'd rather keep small independent farms than have them all go belly up and get bought out by mega corporate farms.

Should all small family businesses get handouts or are farms special?

 

[SONNEN]

Not always.
https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-vehicles/better-biofuels/truth-about-ethanol#.W71P1uSWwYA
Don't worry, big oil is pissed with this move, and they have way more stroke then any farmer lobby. I would not be surprised if this does not last long.
Also we supply weapons to those shit hole terrorist countries, and if you want to not fund money to them, then transition to solar and wind power, like most of the rest of the world is doing.

Lol at quoting a website that for 25$ I can officially become a "concerned scientist". Quit reading activist nonsense, youre probably the one who believed in the solyndra embarrassment; ethanol doesn't come from democrat tears, I promise.

Biofuels and ethonal are very effective; (ethanol contains oxygen which makes it burn quicker and cleane) if these countries had access to our massive and efficient farming they wouldn't be messing around with a windmill.

 

[woodguyatl]

Ethanol is cleaner, renewable, and doesn't fund money to shithole terrorists countries. Just dont let the ethanol sit too long and your mowing lawn business will be ok...

Farm subsidies bring us gas and food, pretty impressive.

We would have both gas and food without subsidies.

 

[SONNEN]

Should all small family businesses get handouts or are farms special?

If the government wants to offer an incentive s to what the business produces then maybe. It's their grain they can do what ever they want with it, why not bribe them to produce as much as possible?

 

[xcvbn]

Farm subsidies bring us gas and food, pretty impressive.

Food stamps keep starving people from dying in the streets. I appreciate not having to drive past starving kids on the street when I'm going to Best Buy to purchase shit I don't need. Pretty impressive.