Trump links violent video games to school shootings

Desensitization is in part to blame for our growing disregard for human life among young people.
This desensitization is global. What makes school shootings a very American thing?
 
Young men of previous times were forced to handle the pressure of actual combat, while coming back home to live a civilian life afterwards. I think our generation can handle video games.
 
Come on man, Hostile or any other horror movie is rated R, but Zach and Mirri make a porno is NC-17?

More problems with the ratings system then editing.

That's what I'm saying. The MPAA requests arbitrary edits, to cut a movie's content down, so it passes their standard of when it becomes okay to bring kids to it. It's ridiculous, because no amount of cut content to something like "SAW" or "Hostel" will ever make those flicks appropriate to bring your 8 year old to see. R should mean "Adults only", period.

"Zack & Miri" is actually a really good example of how silly the whole process is, if you ever heard Kevin Smith talk about the ridiculous shit the MPAA was requesting. One scene in particular they were arguing over, was Jay and that porn star fucking in the diner. The MPAA thought there were "too many thrusts", as if 4 or 5 thrusts was okay, but anything over that put it into NC17 territory. It makes absolutely no sense. .
 
The youth murder rate has been going down since 1994. Doom, the first main-stream popular "shooter," was released in 1994.

Conclusion: shooting games reduce violent crime in youth by giving them outlet for their aggression.

Of course this correlation is not provable, but you can be damn sure that if the stats went the other way morons like trump would be pointing it out.
 
well they have proven that pornography warps the mind and changes and destroys you.

but not video games that are violent? i wonder why that is. it seem both right and some on left can agree that pornography and so much stuff out there is destructive but wonder why. maybe killing a human is harder than people think but having a depraved sexual mind is easier?
 
Guns have been around for hundreds of years.

You think the rise in school shootings in recent decades has nothing to do with the rapid evolution in culture regarding games, music, movies, violence, and general moral decline?

Grow up.
where is this "moral decline"? There is less violent crime, teen pregnancy, teen alcohol/drug use, divorce and abortion than in the 20th century. Basically all the metrics that conservatives use to gauge "morality" in society- the only two stats that support their panic are the falling marriage rates and church attendance. Those actually are tanking hard.
 
Very weapons talented teachers will be the final bosses to defeat for any wannabe mass shooter.
 
well they have proven that pornography warps the mind and changes and destroys you.

but not video games that are violent? i wonder why that is. it seem both right and some on left can agree that pornography and so much stuff out there is destructive but wonder why. maybe killing a human is harder than people think but having a depraved sexual mind is easier?
Pornography works your mind in a different way than video games do, I think. Your brain changes on the chemical and neurological level. But there could be similarities, probably in the form of desensitization and gratification addiction.
 
Pornography works your mind in a different way than video games do, I think. Your brain changes on the chemical and neurological level. But there could be similarities, probably in the form of desensitization and gratification addiction.

porn for sure is bad and many other stuff. video games there many normal people who play gta 5 and be fine. i think if anything american movies and stuff decentizie extreme violence. if i was in charge i would make all those torture movie illegal along with anything that play on real sadism.
 
This desensitization is global. What makes school shootings a very American thing?

it works different ways. in many '3rd world' countries and 2nd world there more regulation but even in islamic places were they restrict improper sexual relations or showing obsecene violence they will then produce there own violent people motivated by religion to carry out say beheading as they holy book says to.
 
That's what I'm saying. The MPAA requests arbitrary edits, to cut a movie's content down, so it passes their standard of when it becomes okay to bring kids to it. It's ridiculous, because no amount of cut content to something like "SAW" or "Hostel" will ever make those flicks appropriate to bring your 8 year old to see. R should mean "Adults only", period.

"Zack & Miri" is actually a really good example of how silly the whole process is, if you ever heard Kevin Smith talk about the ridiculous shit the MPAA was requesting. One scene in particular they were arguing over, was Jay and that porn star fucking in the diner. The MPAA thought there were "too many thrusts", as if 4 or 5 thrusts was okay, but anything over that put it into NC17 territory. It makes absolutely no sense. .

The rating system isn't the important issue as it's voluntary and has no legal value whatsoever. Theaters might use it as a guideline but ultimately it must be up to parents since the availability of film and other things are much wider for home use.
 
I don't think movies are really an issue at all. It was just a good point he made, if he had made it for a completely different reason. Lol.

The video game thing actually does weird me out though. The games are just ridiculously violent now, and the kids are actually controlling people while they commit mass murder.

Why does a young kid have to do this? I had plenty of fun playing Mario.

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Agreed. I used to think the "violent video games" thing was BS, but the older I get the more I realize that cultural influences like video games and movies are at the very least a possible factor. Ultimately it's a mental health issue but it's a complex issue.
 
Young men of previous times were forced to handle the pressure of actual combat, while coming back home to live a civilian life afterwards. I think our generation can handle video games.

Young men of previous generations also had easy access to guns.....so what gives?

The Hardware has been there , the will hasn't. Refusing to consider other variables seems lazy and disingenuous.
 
well they have proven that pornography warps the mind and changes and destroys you.

but not video games that are violent? i wonder why that is. it seem both right and some on left can agree that pornography and so much stuff out there is destructive but wonder why. maybe killing a human is harder than people think but having a depraved sexual mind is easier?

Who are "they" and what is the proof.

Sexual assault, STD's, and Teen Pregnancy are at historic lows, so what's the OBJECTIVE evidence that pornography is "destructive?"

One could just as easily argue that the prevalence of modern pornography is giving an outlet for people who would otherwise act out their fantasies in far more destructive ways.
 
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