Trump signs order to eliminate ACA insurance rules, undermine marketplaces

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  1. OeuvrePressure

    OeuvrePressure Obama Jew

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    Manafort has been informed he can expect to be indicted if that hasn't already happened.
    Seems like it's moving at about the pace these things do, if you've lived through a couple
     
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  2. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Because you're not making them pay for it. The money that they are supposedly using to pay for it only exists because you gifted them the asset first.

    It's like handing someone $1,000,000 and saying that they have to pay you $200,000 out of that money in order to keep the rest. Contrast that with requiring that they produce the $200,000 before you hand over the $1,000,000. In the former, you're really just gifting them $800,000. In the latter, they must demonstrate the ability to earn $200,000 on their own before you reward them an additional $800,000.

    It's an economic shell game that allows someone to make a gift of the business while giving it the veneer of a legitimate economic transaction. It's a fairly common way to hand down small businesses within families and avoid the issues that arise with probating an estate.
     
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  3. Thanos

    Thanos Courting Death

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    hell yeah
     
  4. kahiljabroni

    kahiljabroni Brown Belt

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    Just more of trump doing what he said he was gonna do.
     
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  5. chardog

    chardog That's President Donald Trump

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    he certainly is, but it's more just to expedite the process. Obamacare was going to fail anyhow, and I sourced it earlier. It was a crappy law that couldnt sustain the mandate (not heavy handed enough).
     
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  6. DickSarp

    DickSarp Blue Belt

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    "Better Coverage at a fraction of the cost...for everyone"

    Tell me again, you brainless fucks on the right, how is 'you can keep your doctor' worse than that? Where is this ''better coverage for a fraction of the cost for everyone?" Where? You assholes on the Right run the fucking federal government. Where is it? Probably bc the republicans never had intentions of any affordable care for the Hoi Polloi....thats the non-rich for you right wingers. You fucking suckers on the right will believe anything. Did I mention you morons are dragging this country down to a new Dark Ages? Not that you'd even catch the reference...dumb fucks.

    The irony is that you could have kept your doctor with lower premiums if the Cruz amendment was never added to the ACA. Now we have more right wing sabotage from Cossack Don, the conman.

    And guess who's getting kicked in the balls over it? Yup, the working poor.

    How 'bout a tax cut Sparky...skewed to the elites? That's gonna fix things.
     
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    DickSarp Blue Belt

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    ”The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."

    —John Kenneth Galbraith
     
  8. west42

    west42 Brown Belt

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    Nah bro, without obamacare the average monthly insurance premium would be over $10k
     
  9. m52nickerson

    m52nickerson EXTERMINATE!

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    Okay, so I could have read your locations...sometimes I'm slow on the uptake.
     
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    m52nickerson EXTERMINATE!

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    Defend insurance, or the mandates?
     
  11. FIMN

    FIMN Brown Belt

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    Doesn't seem wise to throw the whole system out and kick millions off plans because of Hawaii. Wouldn't reform be a much preferable solution to repeal?

    Seems like you're making good the enemy of perfect.

    UHC would be much better, but that isn't feasible right now.
     
  12. llperez22

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    so happy i have company provided insurance and dont have to worry about this.
     
  13. SBJJ

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    The subsidies were already found unconstitutional.
     
  14. Sohei

    Sohei Too swole to control

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    How? Is this another thing where "anything we dont like" =unconstitutional?

    The Supreme Court upheld the ACA.
     
  15. Orgasmo

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    Die hard Trumpets will tell you how great getting kicked in the nuts is when Trump is booting them in the sacks. You know that the group that will suffer the most are Trump voters in the Midwest right?
     
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  16. chardog

    chardog That's President Donald Trump

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    in case you dont understand, Hawaii was just one state showing early symptoms.

    other states also face the problem now.
    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...5-states-will-have-only-1-obamacare-insurance

    insurers dropping from 39 states...... in 2016!
    https://www.axios.com/the-disappearing-obamacare-insurers-2357437003.html

    it was failing on it's own, lets not pretend Trump is causing this failure.
     
  17. HIMBOB

    HIMBOB Steel Belt

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    Anyone know what happened to the total per capita health care spend in America pre and post Obama care?

    (Total means public and private expense).

    Up down similar???
     
  18. HIMBOB

    HIMBOB Steel Belt

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    Im 37, wife a bit younger and together we pay $200 aud ($160usd) per month and that includes our kid.


    Socialism for the win.
     

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