UFC to sponsor LGBTQ Pride March in New York

DorianGray said:
I've never seen any of the literature handed out in my city (toronto), so fair enough, if that's what it says. I know they are decentralized. I really can't comment on what their purpose, I've never attended one (that was just something I had read). Assuming it was true, I don't think it's a terrible image for homosexuality any more than mardi gras would be a terrible image for people in general. Or, a better way of saying it, I don't think people should draw their conclusions about homosexuality (or people) as a whole from one day. It's not like this is their one chance to hit us with their sales pitch. They're just having fun in a way that is not really permissible on other days of the year.
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I just don't get this comparisons to Mardi Gras. It's not a celebration of heterosexuality or anything. There are lots of big gay events at Mardi Gras. I guess I shouldn't be surprised tho that that the Canadians in the thread are bringing it up. An army of Canadians go down to Mardi Gras although I've never seen it advertised as a celebration of the heterosexual lifestyle

And I agree with you. My whole point is that these marches don't present a positive image of gay folks to me. The screaming political activists or the exhibitionists in leather vests and chaps. That's why I commented that I think they have become dated and no longer serve the purpose they might have had at one time.
 
I never said it was a celebration of the heterosexual lifestyle (that's why I said people in general as opposed to heterosexuals). I've never even been to new orleans btw. I said, from what I've read, I'm under the impression the two events may have a similar underlying reason for existing in that they are essentially about "letting off steam" in a way that is socially seen as unacceptable on other days of the year. I could very well be wrong, but even if I am, I still don't think one should have their view of homosexuality fully informed by one day of the year.

whoops, forgot to quota ya: @KeepItRealist
 
I predict a lot of people not trying to pass guard, advance position from north south, or escape the mount
 
Whatever.

I hate the UFC anyways.
 
KeepItRealist said:
They hit it on the nose.
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You do know it's satire, right?

"I have a cousin who's a gay, and he seemed like a decent enough guy to me," said Iowa City, IA, resident Russ Linder, in Los Angeles for a weekend sales seminar. "Now, thanks to this parade, I realize what a freak he's been all along. Gays are all sick, immoral perverts."
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Only in the War Room do you get an Onion article wrote in 2001 poking fun at people whose gay panic goes into overdrive mode because they see two dudes wearing leather grinding on each other and the immediate reaction is some triggered snowflake saying "yeah that's exactly right!!11!"
 
billharford said:
One of the great things that used to set MMA apart from other major sports was that you could watch it without having "causes" and "issues" constantly shoved down your fucking throat. Yeah, I know about breast cancer NFL, I don't need to see your fucking pink socks to understand that it exists. Looks like the UFC is going down this same bullshit path. Its escapist appeal will soon be totally lost.
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Funny, because when half the fighters won, I heard a Bible sermon. Didn't hear any complaints then.

As to the actual story, I wonder if this has anything to do with the mob, politicians and unions from NY, that kept MMA out of NY, because the Fertittas were anti-union.

Wondering if we will see a fighters union soon as well.
 
MiniCraque said:
You do know it's satire, right?



Only in the War Room do you get an Onion article wrote in 2001 poking fun at people whose gay panic goes into overdrive mode because they see two dudes wearing leather grinding on each other and the immediate reaction is some triggered snowflake saying "yeah that's exactly right!!11!"
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Yes, I get that its the Onion and satire, but the portrayal of the kind of people who show up at these rallies is on the nose. And the reaction it must generate. And I don't think you have be homophobic to find these type of gay folks oiled up and wearing leather chaps and carrying around dildos in public to be pretty disgusting and presenting a bad image of gays.
 
KeepItRealist said:
Yes, I get that its the Onion and satire, but the portrayal of the kind of people who show up at these rallies is on the nose. And the reaction it must generate. And I don't think you have be homophobic to find these type of gay folks oiled up and wearing leather chaps and carrying around dildos in public to be pretty disgusting and presenting a bad image of gays.
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No, that's precisely the point of the article. A handful of dudes doing whatever during a parade (and I agree that things can get pretty fucked up - for my taste at least) as a political statement says absolutely nothing about gay people in general.

The article is making fun of people like you and you fail to realize that.
 
KeepItRealist said:
I've never understood why these are still around. Those Pride marches make gay people look bad. It's like an adult video awards festival atmosphere and attire. The worst kind of people show up and make spectacles of themselves.
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It made sense in the late 80s I give them that. 2018? Lmao no
 
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Well, like any giant company, it’s for marketing. The business doesn’t care. It’s trying to make inroads
 
FrankieNYC said:
Sadly they can't even get 30% to fill out an information card to start the process rolling.
They are nowhere near a majority to get a union
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That is easily changed if a union goes in, and starts explaining the benefits, and idea of leverage in negotiating, without threat to employees for organizing.

If this is part of a deal, I imagine it would include the parent company not resisting unionization. The parent company doesn't have the anti-union casino interests the Fertittas did.
 
VivaRevolution said:
That is easily changed if a union goes in, and starts explaining the benefits, and idea of leverage in negotiating, without threat to employees for organizing.

If this is part of a deal, I imagine it would include the parent company not resisting unionization. The parent company doesn't have the anti-union casino interests the Fertittas did.
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They tried several times
The majority of fighters don't care enough to even get info

When Boras called an informational meeting to try to start the process, guess how many showed?

ONE
 
FrankieNYC said:
They tried several times
The majority of fighters don't care enough to even get info

When Boras called an informational meeting to try to start the process, guess how many showed?

ONE
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So no one said sign this, and we will get you free HC during training, and after the fight.

If they had done a door to door campaign, the outcome would have been different.

Maybe not on the first attempt, but over time. That is usually how union organization goes.
 
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