US says China, Iran, Russia are 'forces for instability'

Who has the history or invading n meddling in other countries again?
 
Same old War Propaganda losers in here.. Especially that SeaSide shmuch and McVeteran. They read articles on Fox news and other shitty websites and all of a sudden they are experts on world wide terrorism and others countries Politics.

Newflash SEASIDE YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT IRAN. Lol.... stop praying for a war to happen.
 
That goes without saying.

Are we supposed to act like Iran, China or Russia are havens for freedom and democracy, now?
 
TheGreatA said:
That goes without saying.

Are we supposed to act like Iran, China or Russia are havens for freedom and democracy, now?
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China, Russia and Iran would be far more benevolent in a similar position of geopolitical power and influence, just look at the domestic conditions within those countries.

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Aside meddle in countries, the US also laid concrete foundations in the fields of statistical mechanics, molecular biology, quantum chemistry, quantum electrodynamics, quantum computing and nanotechnology, invented the transistor (arguably most significant of the 20th century) and made the vast majority of advancements and breakthroughs in human medicine. It mapped the human genome. It has also almost unilaterally owned the realms of space science and exploration in expanding man's knowledge of the earth, solar system, galaxy, universe and our place within it, so I mean...
 
V-2 said:
China, Russia and Iran would be far more benevolent in a similar position of geopolitical power and influence, just look at the domestic conditions within those countries.

{<jordan}

Aside meddle in countries, the US also laid concrete foundations in the fields of statistical mechanics, molecular biology, quantum chemistry, quantum electrodynamics, quantum computing and nanotechnology, invented the transistor (arguably most significant of the 20th century) and made the vast majority of advancements and breakthroughs in human medicine. It mapped the human genome. It has also almost unilaterally owned the realms of space science and exploration in expanding man's knowledge of the earth, solar system, galaxy, universe and our place within it, so I mean...
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The usual argument is that America has started more wars than anyone in the past couple of decades. While that may be true, it is also true that America is the only country that is actually in a position to start wars, without getting squashed like a cockroach.

They've wielded their stick relatively responsibly. I wouldn't be as comfortable with China or Russia, or just about anybody, wielding that stick.

Atleast there is a chance to change leadership in America. No such an opportunity in China, or Russia, or Iran, or whoever.

Not that America is without criticism, but I think we need to put things to a perspective here, at times. Russia is an anarchic country ruled by ex-KGB mobsters, China is basically an Orwellian dystopia.
 
The main targets for the military industrial complex get listed...
You can translate that list as Israel's enemies...
or maybe the Rothschild banking family would be more accurate .
 
TheGreatA said:
China is basically an Orwellian dystopia.
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RFA: China Aims For Near Total Surveillance, Including People's Homes

By 2020, China will have completed its nationwide facial recognition and surveillance network, achieving near-total surveillance of urban residents, including in their homes via smart TVs and smartphones. According to the official Legal Daily newspaper, the 13th Five Year Plan requires 100 percent surveillance and facial recognition coverage and total unification of its existing databases across the country.

Authorities in the southwestern province of Sichuan reported in December that they had completed the installation of more than 40,000 surveillance cameras across more than 14,000 villages as part of the "Sharp Eyes" nationwide surveillance network, the paper said. Guangdong-based Bell New Vision Co. is developing the nationwide "Sharp Eyes" platform that can link up public surveillance cameras and those installed in smart devices in the home, to a nationwide network for viewing in real time by anyone who is given access.

"Sharp Eyes" comes from a ruling Chinese Communist Party slogan, "the people have sharp eyes," which traditionally relied on the eyes and ears of local neighborhood committees to keep tabs on what its people were up to.

Soon, police and other officials will be able to monitor people's activities in their own homes, wherever there is an internet-connected camera. A Chinese internet user who asked to remain anonymous said the social media platform WeChat has also begun issuing warnings to anyone posting messages that the government deems undesirable.

"The internet and our smartphones have been under government surveillance for a long time already," the user said. "A friend of mine in Anhui is under surveillance, and he tried to buy a plane ticket to go overseas, but he couldn't leave the country. We can be placed under restriction or persecuted by them, or asked to 'drink tea,' [with state security police], or placed under surveillance, at any time," he said. "Overall, it feels as if we're not free at all."

'Social Credit' System

The Sharp Eyes system will be implemented in tandem with a "social credit" system that makes simple actions like buying a train ticket subject to sufficient social credit.

Under a pilot social credit scheme, people who are considered to be "troublemakers" by the authorities, including those who have tried fare-dodging, smoked on public transport, caused trouble on commercial flights or "spread false information" online will now be prevented from buying train tickets, the government announced earlier this month. Employers who fail to pay social insurance or people who have failed to pay fines will also be on the restricted list, which takes effect on May 1.

The administration of President’s Xi Jinping is currently building a social credit system allowing government bodies to share information on its citizens’ trustworthiness and assign a "social credit score" to citizens. In early 2017, the country’s Supreme People’s Court said that 6.15 million Chinese citizens had been banned from taking flights for social misdeeds, Reuters reported.

Do we have an 'Islamophobia' problem in the west? Do people realize how racist greater collective Chinese society is towards black people?

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Those 30 million civilians don't count, they live in shitholes and we only bombed them so that means they didn't feel any pain and evaporated instantly.

Also, the US used 'smartbombs', so that means the bombs were very smart and only killed bad people or people who were going to be bad or thinking of becoming bad, either way they were bad and we are good. Don't you even watch TV and Movies bra? We are the good ones, get with the program dummy.

And also, we brought them freedom so it was worth a few million lives, I'm sure all those dead people would have wanted to die so the future generations could have freedom and coca cola and mcdonalds, and one day maybe even have the freedom to gender reassign their children and give them hormone therapy. Why wouldn't you want our awesome culture and freedom? We're like sooooo rad, y'know.
 
TheGreatA said:
The usual argument is that America has started more wars than anyone in the past couple of decades. While that may be true, it is also true that America is the only country that is actually in a position to start wars, without getting squashed like a cockroach.

They've wielded their stick relatively responsibly. I wouldn't be as comfortable with China or Russia, or just about anybody, wielding that stick.

Atleast there is a chance to change leadership in America. No such an opportunity in China, or Russia, or Iran, or whoever.

Not that America is without criticism, but I think we need to put things to a perspective here, at times. Russia is an anarchic country ruled by ex-KGB mobsters, China is basically an Orwellian dystopia.
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Yeah but the "cool kids" say its fashionable to shit on murica!!!
 
mcveteran81 said:
For me its not so much that I have sour grapes against my fellow citizens or my fellow service men. Joe the Plumber or Gunnery Sargent John Doe are not themselves going to go out and invade the nations, pillage the people, rape the women, and kill the children.

It's the politics, heads of companies, director of the ABC organisations behind this sublime crap that they feed to the masses that I hate.
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V-2 said:
China, Russia and Iran would be far more benevolent in a similar position of geopolitical power and influence, just look at the domestic conditions within those countries.

{<jordan}

Aside meddle in countries, the US also laid concrete foundations in the fields of statistical mechanics, molecular biology, quantum chemistry, quantum electrodynamics, quantum computing and nanotechnology, invented the transistor (arguably most significant of the 20th century) and made the vast majority of advancements and breakthroughs in human medicine. It mapped the human genome. It has also almost unilaterally owned the realms of space science and exploration in expanding man's knowledge of the earth, solar system, galaxy, universe and our place within it, so I mean...
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As Veteran pointed out, its just a small but powerful group within America (and most countries in general) who fuck shit up, the people at large are good and productive.

Just like Von Braun advancing rocketry doesnt justifies the nazi political system.
 
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