US says China, Iran, Russia are 'forces for instability'

That's equivalent to say burning someones house down though and then telling them your not morally responsible because if you then had no further involvement with them they'd still be in trouble. If the US withdrew from wider influence on the world the problems it helped to foster would still obviously linger for a great deal of time as indeed has happened with colonialism.

When it comes to the alternative of course I think the ironic thing is that we have all this focus on Russia from the establishment but barely anything on China dispite the Chinese obviously have far more long term potential to replace the US which I'd agree could potentially lead to a far worse environment. I think it comes down again to the real driver for most US policy being the economic interests of the elite, Russia very often stands in opposition to those interests limiting for example US companies ability to profit from oil resource's in places like Syria. China on the other hand is much more integral to their wealth as an endless cheap source of labour.

I'd say conflicts and tension such as that between Russia and Baltic States, China and Japan, China and India, India and Pakistan (British policy), Saudi Arabia and Iran, Turkey and the Kurds, as well as general divide between the Sunnis and Shiites in the Muslim world all exist independently of the US with the potential to spin out of control upon serious withdrawal from international affairs. A withdrawl from the commitment to global maritime free trade would be another imminent disaster and serving as the guarantor of that costs us a shit ton of money, in addition to being largely responsible for the defense of Europe.

There's actually a considerable amount of attention being put towards China on several levels that just simply isn't front-and-center of the news cycle at the moment, mainstream nor alternative. The US is in the midst of a progressive and organic manufacturing renaissance rooted in innovation and reinvention that will make it the most competitive nation on the globe by 2020 with a lot of reshoring already happening. There's a burgeoning surplus of reasons for 'Made In America', the use of China's cheap labor is getting downsized fast.
 
China should Not be on that list.

Hmm.

Where to begin...

Perhaps, that all of Southeast Asia has become more authoritarian and oppressive from the direct and indirect influence of China?
 
The US needs to be a hegemon a lot less than people realize, nevermind that 65% of world currency reserves are USD, another 20% in the Euro with the chance of supplanting it at this juncture virtually zero. It will take numerous decades at the minimum for an alternative to be properly established and workable even if America ceased all of its foreign policy bullshit immediately. China also cannot simply "dump" their T-bills to "crash" the US economy (and themselves), it doesn't work that way.

On it's own end, the United States possesses the most enviable geography in the history of human civilization, an absolute abundance of natural resources, a comparatively robust future demography outlook, is about to regain its position as the top manufacturing country in the world in the next three years, will become a net energy exporter in the next five (for the first time since 1953) and boasts the most powerful naval capabilities ever established. That's all merely at the most basic of levels. The reports of its impending death have been greatly exaggerated.

All that scaremongering hype?

 
Alright ive had enough of those libtard countries time for us to nuke them and be done with it
 
The US needs to be a hegemon a lot less than people realize, nevermind that 65% of world currency reserves are USD, another 20% in the Euro with the chance of supplanting it at this juncture virtually zero. It will take numerous decades at the minimum for an alternative to be properly established and workable even if America ceased all of its foreign policy bullshit immediately. China also cannot simply "dump" their T-bills to "crash" the US economy (and themselves), it doesn't work that way.

On it's own end, the United States possesses the most enviable geography in the history of human civilization, an absolute abundance of natural resources, a comparatively robust future demography outlook, is about to regain its position as the top manufacturing country in the world in the next three years, will become a net energy exporter in the next five (for the first time since 1953) and boasts the most powerful naval capabilities ever established. That's all merely at the most basic of levels. The reports of its impending death have been greatly exaggerated.

All that scaremongering hype?



The threat is a political collapse.

Consent of the governed. It is not a archaic idea. Legitimacy is not optional.
 
"Forces of global instability" = "unaligned to US interests"
 
The threat is a political collapse.

Consent of the governed. It is not a archaic idea. Legitimacy is not optional.

That would be absolute chaos but manageable, possibly even necessary. I'd prefer some heavy-handed reforms across the board as it pertains to policy both domestic and foreign but it probably doesn't ever come to fruition sans, well, revolution. Things are relatively volatile at the present but it's split in several directions and the greater population remains apathetic where putting in the necessary action is concerned. These lands are innately built for prosperity, who is at the controls and how that is distributed is theoretically optional.
 
RFA: China Aims For Near Total Surveillance, Including People's Homes

By 2020, China will have completed its nationwide facial recognition and surveillance network, achieving near-total surveillance of urban residents, including in their homes via smart TVs and smartphones. According to the official Legal Daily newspaper, the 13th Five Year Plan requires 100 percent surveillance and facial recognition coverage and total unification of its existing databases across the country.

Authorities in the southwestern province of Sichuan reported in December that they had completed the installation of more than 40,000 surveillance cameras across more than 14,000 villages as part of the "Sharp Eyes" nationwide surveillance network, the paper said. Guangdong-based Bell New Vision Co. is developing the nationwide "Sharp Eyes" platform that can link up public surveillance cameras and those installed in smart devices in the home, to a nationwide network for viewing in real time by anyone who is given access.

"Sharp Eyes" comes from a ruling Chinese Communist Party slogan, "the people have sharp eyes," which traditionally relied on the eyes and ears of local neighborhood committees to keep tabs on what its people were up to.

Soon, police and other officials will be able to monitor people's activities in their own homes, wherever there is an internet-connected camera. A Chinese internet user who asked to remain anonymous said the social media platform WeChat has also begun issuing warnings to anyone posting messages that the government deems undesirable.

"The internet and our smartphones have been under government surveillance for a long time already," the user said. "A friend of mine in Anhui is under surveillance, and he tried to buy a plane ticket to go overseas, but he couldn't leave the country. We can be placed under restriction or persecuted by them, or asked to 'drink tea,' [with state security police], or placed under surveillance, at any time," he said. "Overall, it feels as if we're not free at all."

'Social Credit' System

The Sharp Eyes system will be implemented in tandem with a "social credit" system that makes simple actions like buying a train ticket subject to sufficient social credit.

Under a pilot social credit scheme, people who are considered to be "troublemakers" by the authorities, including those who have tried fare-dodging, smoked on public transport, caused trouble on commercial flights or "spread false information" online will now be prevented from buying train tickets, the government announced earlier this month. Employers who fail to pay social insurance or people who have failed to pay fines will also be on the restricted list, which takes effect on May 1.

The administration of President’s Xi Jinping is currently building a social credit system allowing government bodies to share information on its citizens’ trustworthiness and assign a "social credit score" to citizens. In early 2017, the country’s Supreme People’s Court said that 6.15 million Chinese citizens had been banned from taking flights for social misdeeds, Reuters reported.


Do we have an 'Islamophobia' problem in the west? Do people realize how racist greater collective Chinese society is towards black people?

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china is like only country on earth that can really go against islam and not be damaged. all there muslims are basically contained in xinjiang and 1 other small province. the west is too pc to tackle islam issue. other country to small
Those 30 million civilians don't count, they live in shitholes and we only bombed them so that means they didn't feel any pain and evaporated instantly.

Also, the US used 'smartbombs', so that means the bombs were very smart and only killed bad people or people who were going to be bad or thinking of becoming bad, either way they were bad and we are good. Don't you even watch TV and Movies bra? We are the good ones, get with the program dummy.

And also, we brought them freedom so it was worth a few million lives, I'm sure all those dead people would have wanted to die so the future generations could have freedom and coca cola and mcdonalds, and one day maybe even have the freedom to gender reassign their children and give them hormone therapy. Why wouldn't you want our awesome culture and freedom? We're like sooooo rad, y'know.

agreed they would be happier having no culture, pride and worshipping kardashians, buying useless crap and becoming obese and worshipping plastic surgery. But wait! now i read in the west there is ´fat acceptance´and trans and all sorts of degernate shit that worships the fall of man and hates on beauty and excellence of body, mind and spirit! literally!!


The good news is it wont survive they will have to change to survive, trans and people who hate and tear down body, mind, spirit, culture and purpose and aesthetic beauty are by nature cancerous and kill themself. how the hell will they compete or fight wars?

Hmm.

Where to begin...

Perhaps, that all of Southeast Asia has become more authoritarian and oppressive from the direct and indirect influence of China?

proof?
 
Not to mention China and Pakistan's ever-growing level of military collaboration. Ain't happening.

SCMP: China Fails To Win India Round to Belt and Road Initiative Ahead of Modi’s Meeting With Xi

China failed to get India’s support for its ambitious Belt and Road infrastructure project at the end of a meeting of a major security bloc this week.

The scheme is Chinese President Xi Jinping’s landmark initiative to build infrastructure to connect China to the rest of Asia and beyond, a giant reworking of the old Silk Road. India has not signed up to the initiative as parts of one key project, the $57 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, runs through Pakistan-administered Kashmir, which India considers its own territory.

Whether or not China will be able to bring India round to the project is likely to be a key measure of the success of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s trip to China for an informal meeting with Xi on Friday and Saturday. India’s foreign minister did not express support for Belt and Road in the communique released after the foreign ministers of the China and Russia-led Shanghai Cooperation Organisation met in Beijing.
 
The US needs to be a hegemon a lot less than people realize, nevermind that 65% of world currency reserves are USD, another 20% in the Euro with the chance of supplanting it at this juncture virtually zero. It will take numerous decades at the minimum for an alternative to be properly established and workable even if America ceased all of its foreign policy bullshit immediately. China also cannot simply "dump" their T-bills to "crash" the US economy (and themselves), it doesn't work that way.

On it's own end, the United States possesses the most enviable geography in the history of human civilization, an absolute abundance of natural resources, a comparatively robust future demography outlook, is about to regain its position as the top manufacturing country in the world in the next three years, will become a net energy exporter in the next five (for the first time since 1953) and boasts the most powerful naval capabilities ever established. That's all merely at the most basic of levels. The reports of its impending death have been greatly exaggerated.

All that scaremongering hype?



This is what I am telling some of my friends they are all gung ho pro China because they think China will be the best in the next 10 years.
 
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