Sambo thread!

Onq said:
Throws in sambo are not as much systematically named, like in judo or wrestling. In general, they are divided by direction of the throw, method and use of body part (such as "forward leg trip", which could be a name for 10 different throws).
I wrote a short article on the subject Throws for BJJ few months ago.
You can find it here:

http://yagadome.com/best-takedowns-for-bjj-part-ii/
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You're telling me. It's a really vague naming system, which tends to limit Sambo comprehension to "what techniques you train" in stark contrast to Japanese or Brazilian JJ where everything has an assigned config.

Basically, if you're training Sambo and want to learn new techniques, focus on the part of the body manipulated, the physical steps towards that manipulation, plus finishing posture (where you end up) - names come and go, but training makes moves permanent. I guarentee you that Sambo fighters have go-to moves that they can't name, but they can demonstrate and describe. You see some of that overlap in mid-transition moves for freestyle wrestling -- not all wrestlers and/or UFC fighters can tell you what it's called, but they can show you physically where they prefer to go.
 
MacDuffle said:
You're telling me. It's a really vague naming system, which tends to limit Sambo comprehension to "what techniques you train" in stark contrast to Japanese or Brazilian JJ where everything has an assigned config.

Basically, if you're training Sambo and want to learn new techniques, focus on the part of the body manipulated, the physical steps towards that manipulation, plus finishing posture (where you end up) - names come and go, but training makes moves permanent. I guarentee you that Sambo fighters have go-to moves that they can't name, but they can demonstrate and describe. You see some of that overlap in mid-transition moves for freestyle wrestling -- not all wrestlers and/or UFC fighters can tell you what it's called, but they can show you physically where they prefer to go.
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The methodology of coaching and practicing sambo is learning major moves and principles first and then, focusing on fine details. As such, the proper name of a technic doesnt really matter. What matters is the principle behind it.
Of course any sambo athlete have go to moves- this is basic necessity for any grappler.
The point here is, that maybe the athletes also adjust the moves to their own style and still call it with a major body move description, instead of trying to specify it, the way japanese judo does.
 
what was the purpose of the creation of sport sambo, and what was the intent for the creation of combat sambo?
 
MadSquabbles500 said:
what was the purpose of the creation of sport sambo, and what was the intent for the creation of combat sambo?
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There are many stories about creation of the style, but I believe combat sambo came first, as a system for the needs of law enforcement and then the sport version was created as a national sport
 
Onq said:
There are many stories about creation of the style, but I believe combat sambo came first, as a system for the needs of law enforcement and then the sport version was created as a national sport
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So the Law enforcement was taught combat sombo?
 
And here is a nice little vid on its history. Tell me if it is accurate.



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MadSquabbles500 said:
So the Law enforcement was taught combat sombo?
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Yes, but as I said, it was not the same as combat sambo version you see today in competitions.
Throws and holds were taught, but focus was on apprehending suspects, dealing with armed attacker and etc. The main principle of dynamic transitions from grip- throw- pin- submit were there though.
 
Hi guys! I ran a search for this first (I promise!) but not much turned up: Does combat sambo have its own striking style / system or do combat sambo fighters just learn a well-rounded striking game based on whatever their coaches know? Thanks!
 
Regular Joe said:
Hi guys! I ran a search for this first (I promise!) but not much turned up: Does combat sambo have its own striking style / system or do combat sambo fighters just learn a well-rounded striking game based on whatever their coaches know? Thanks!
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Not really, except the jacket grip brawls, which require specific strategies
 
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Hello all,
I am curious about what living/visiting Sakhalin island is like, and what the Sambo training like is there both Sport and Combat variety? I am thinking this could be a fun adventure. Or is Vladivostak a better option as far as quality training, and cheaper accommodation for one wanting ability to go back and forth to tokyo easily?

Can anyone talk about what is actually like, I guess Tourism Visa for U.S. since the rules changed in 2012? It would seem one could stay for 3 months at a time, multiple times? Just need an invitation letter formal or from hotel?

Also, what are training options for Sambo in Tokyo? (I think kind of far travel actually from where I am) thanks
 
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DanTheWolfman.com said:
Hello all,
I am curious about what living/visiting Sakhalin island is like, and what the Sambo training like is there both Sport and Combat variety? I am thinking this could be a fun adventure. Or is Vladivostak a better option as far as quality training, and cheaper accommodation for one wanting ability to go back and forth to tokyo easily?

Can anyone talk about what is actually like, I guess Tourism Visa for U.S. since the rules changed in 2012? It would seem one could stay for 3 months at a time, multiple times? Just need an invitation letter formal or from hotel?

Also, what are training options for Sambo in Tokyo? (I think kind of far travel actually from where I am) thanks
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Sakhalin is a rock in the sea.
Don't know about Vladivostok, but I can direct you to friends in Khabarovsk.
Visa and etc, please google. I'm assuming your japanese visa is also tourist one, so Id be extra careful hopping between Japan and Russia. Sooner or later you will be declined entry.
As for Tokyo, there are several places . Where are you located?
Id suggest you to try Bulgaria- the camp I listed above is with the Bulgarian national team of sport/ combat sambo guys and world champs, pro MMA fighters... Visa wouldn't be a problem (because its in EU).
Compered to level of sambo you will encounter in Siberia, Bulgaria is a lot better option. Cheaper, warmer, central for trips in EU and we are talking top level sambo country.
Also, this year sambo worlds are in Bulgaria, immediately after, its the Euro Open in Combat Wrestling, in the same city.
And just weeks before that, its the sambo masters world in Croatia. Id be competing in it and will be coaching and organizing in the other 2 events.
Strongly suggesting looking into those options.
 
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Thanks, I am in Shinjuku and do not like to travel far at all, I am lazy with subway travel.
I saw your post from years ago about SK Absolute....
I do not remember if that was one dojo or like a work out facility, but I think I went there in 2001 or 2005...however it is not open anymore is it?
As far as MMA and No Gi I have lots to teach myself, and have some Sambo knowledge as techniques are included in Hayastan System, and trained with Taktarov as well about 4 times back in the day, but always thought it would be fun to do Sambo wishing that were available more in the states.
 
DanTheWolfman.com said:
Thanks, I am in Shinjuku and do not like to travel far at all, I am lazy with subway travel.
I saw your post from years ago about SK Absolute....
I do not remember if that was one dojo or like a work out facility, but I think I went there in 2001 or 2005...however it is not open anymore is it?
As far as MMA and No Gi I have lots to teach myself, and have some Sambo knowledge as techniques are included in Hayastan System, and trained with Taktarov as well about 4 times back in the day, but always thought it would be fun to do Sambo wishing that were available more in the states.
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SK Absolute is not around anymore. There are a few places close to Shinjuku though, search for AZ Academy.
Well, I thought you are interested in high level training, with actual champions in all categories.
If yes, read what I posted above.
All national teams train in the capitals of their countries. I highly doubt you will be able to find something above average in Vladivostok.
As for training, I dont know if a sambo world champ would be interested in learning from someone who is not recognized by the sambo community- in the end of the day, those guys are quite specialized and narrow focused in their training and are not interested in sports with completely different rule sets.
 
Going to a Vlad Koulikov seminar in a week, really looking forward to it. Not only for the technique, but also as a good excuse to wear the oh so sexy shorts.
 
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