Media "What's That Make Me?" - Conor McGregor on beating Holloway & Aldo

[Rea_ctor]

When Conor beat Holloway:

- He was 21, a TOTAL record of 7-2
- Just came off a loss to Bermudez
- Best career win was Leonard Garcia (split decision)
- Only had 4 fights before entering the UFC, and got finished in the first round in his debut
- 13 wins in a row since then

People are grasping at straws here, making it sound like this is an amazing win for Conor LMFAO.

21, he was 21, only 21, do we really need a list of already succesful athletes by 21, Ronaldo was ballon d'or winner at 22. Stop making excuses up for Max's loss, he never lost since ffs, does that mean he suddenly became elite post conor defeat? Or was he late to puberty and suddenly dropped?

 

[cevo]

21, he was 21, only 21, do we really need a list of already succesful athletes by 21, Ronaldo was ballon d'or winner at 22. Stop making excuses up for Max's loss, he never lost since ffs, does that mean he suddenly became elite post conor defeat? Or was he Kate to puberty and suddenly dropped?

Max wasn't as successful as Ronaldo by the age of 21. Also Ronaldo probably had 500+ matches by then.

It took him another 4 years of constant fighting before he won the title against Aldo. Every fight he showed big improvements.

Is this really that hard to grasp? It was a good win for Conor but not great.

 

[Dionysos]

It's too bad that he left the division when it came time to prove it. Talk is cheap.

He went on to fight Khabib but he is a coward because he didn't stay in FW for the rest of his career fighting people he already beat?

How many chromosomes do you have?

 

[Rea_ctor]

Max wasn't as successful as Ronaldo by the age of 21. Also Ronaldo probably had 500+ matches by then.

It took him another 4 years of constant fighting before he won the title against Aldo. Every fight he showed big improvements.

Is this really that hard to grasp? It was a good win for Conor but not great.

Fighters train multiple disciplines every single day, training 2/3 times, footballers train once per day and play a match, just because they don't fight competitively every week doesn't mean they aren't sparring and training. Conor beat a good Max up fair and square and with only one knee, so even though Max isn't the fighter he is now he still fought a handicapped opponent who went on to get surgery post fight.

 

[ThePatriot]

It's too bad that he left the division when it came time to prove it. Talk is cheap.

He left the division undefeated after beating aldo

 

[Rea_ctor]

He went on to fight Khabib but he is a coward because he didn't stay in FW for the rest of his career fighting people he already beat?

How many chromosomes do you have?

The coward ran off the fight the greatest boxer of all time and possibly the greatest lightweight of all time haha sherdog logic for you mate.

 

[Death By Samson]

He went on to fight Khabib but he is a coward because he didn't stay in FW for the rest of his career fighting people he already beat?

How many chromosomes do you have?

Where did I say coward? Read much?

He wants to lay claim to being the FW GOAT without having actually stayed in the division and accomplished it. Talk is cheap.

He didn't want to make that cut again so he chose to move up and stayed there. That was a rough cut. I don't fault him for that choice, but it is what it is, and that choice did nothing to establish him as the FW GOAT.

And fighting people he already beat? When he challenged for the LW title he had exactly 2 wins against the top 15 in the FW rankings. Your narrative is false.


P.S.

Unrelated: Khabib ran him over and he made it look easy. I just want to make sure that you remember that.

 

[Ogata]

He beat max by a decision. It wasn't an add whooping either. It was out working max by striking and to takedowns.

Good for him for winning but fighters change. They improve or stagnate or diminish.

Gsp beat Dan hardy by grinding him out with wrestling. Afterwards Chris lytle owned hardy standing up and straight up put him in to a submission.

With conors logic:

Lytle>>>>>>>>gsp when it comes to goat status!

 

[Mamou]

Of course it isn't irrelevant, he's a sportsman like many others who by the age of 21 was a champion, like I already said we train up and send 16 year old to war, so to say a 21 year old who's been fighting in the UFC for 5 fights already wasn't ready is rubbish.

And cute? It's common sense sweety, what organisation do all MMA fighters aspire to fight in? Erm it's the UFC, why? Because they have the best fighters and pay the best, TV shows and being a WWE wrestler aside to get signed to the UFC you need a decent regional record, so if you've fought 5 times in the UFC logic would say you're pretty comfortable at the top level.

Ah yeah, Sage Northcutt is a more prepared fighter than Douglas Lima. Andy Wang, Wayne Weems, and Gabe Ruediger have so much more experience in big fights than someone like Michael Chandler...

There's a reason why Mcgregor was able to completely outgrapple Holloway when they fought, it's because Holloway was young and inexperienced despite it being his 6th UFC fight to Mcgregor's 2nd.

Anything a boxer does in a boxing ring is completely irrelevant when discussing MMA. And I still don't understand what 16 year olds and war have to do with this discussion.

 

[Rea_ctor]

Ah yeah, Sage Northcutt is a more prepared fighter than Douglas Lima. Andy Wang, Wayne Weems, and Gabe Ruediger have so much more experience in big fights than someone like Michael Chandler...

There's a reason why Mcgregor was able to completely outgrapple Holloway when they fought, it's because Holloway was young and inexperienced despite it being his 6th UFC fight to Mcgregor's 2nd.

Anything a boxer does in a boxing ring is completely irrelevant when discussing MMA. And I still don't understand what 16 year olds and war have to do with this discussion.

My point being that people can specialise at a young age, whether that's MMA, Boxing, or any other job, an apprentice is taken on at 16 and expected to be able to carry the job out independently by 21, so using age as an excuse is utter rubbish, this wasn't his professional debut.

We could go round all day with this so let's just agree to disagree.

 

[Mamou]

My point being that people can specialise at a young age, whether that's MMA, Boxing, or any other job, an apprentice is taken on at 16 and expected to be able to carry the job out independently by 21, so using age as an excuse is utter rubbish, this wasn't his professional debut.

We could go round all day with this so let's just agree to disagree.

Well your arguement is terrible. This has nothing to do with boxing, war, or 16 year olds.

Max Holloway was 21 years old and had less experience than Conor Mcgregor when they fought. If you watched their fight, it showed. So it's really not that debatable.

 

[robotsonic]

I didn't say ducked, I said dodged. He was lucky enough to have the UFC fast track him to title shots by beating chump strikers. He was never the best fighter at either weight but had both of the belts.

Chump strikers like Aldo... Give it a rest, hater. McGregor is not the goat by any stretch but he beat a murderers row of good dudes, went up in weight straight away to fight the champ, took on one of the am time greats in Floyd in an arena he had no business being in... The guy is no dodger, one day when you let the hate go you might be able to admit that.

You are the kind of guy who dismissed Aldo and Alvarez as bums after they were beaten while talking them up beforehand. Just a hater and not a true mma fan.

 

[TheExpert]

nothing. A duck.

 

[eiyuu]

"What's that make me?"

A guy who never defended a title.

 

[RizinSon88]

Fuck it, just rematch at 155lbs. we get a great fight and everyone can find out if Max has gotten better or if he still is inferior to McGregor. Just like we found out that Chuck never progressed enough to beat Rampage or that BJ had fallen behind Hughes in their rematch.

On the ledger the irishman is up 1-0, but Max has had more successful defenses at FW. The fight is never going to happen again at 145lbs. but we can still see who is better now with a rematch.

 

[Local Plata]

Chump strikers like Aldo... Give it a rest, hater. McGregor is not the goat by any stretch but he beat a murderers row of good dudes, went up in weight straight away to fight the champ, took on one of the am time greats in Floyd in an arena he had no business being in... The guy is no dodger, one day when you let the hate go you might be able to admit that.

You are the kind of guy who dismissed Aldo and Alvarez as bums after they were beaten while talking them up beforehand. Just a hater and not a true mma fan.

Nope, not a hater at all, just realistic. He was able to get a title shot at 145 while not fighting any of the strong grapplers, the only contender he fought was an out of shape, late notice chad mendes. Then rather than defending against contenders, he goes up and takes on Alverez who might not have even been top 5 in the division but had the fight of his life against RDA ... so Conor lucked out on that one as I think he matches up much worse vs. RDA than Alvarez. They didn't even look the same weight class.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Max wasn't as successful as Ronaldo by the age of 21. Also Ronaldo probably had 500+ matches by then.

It took him another 4 years of constant fighting before he won the title against Aldo. Every fight he showed big improvements.

Is this really that hard to grasp? It was a good win for Conor but not great.

Also Ronaldo wasn't world player of the year at 21. He was 23 when he first won.

 

[RockyLockridge]

someone living in the very distant past.

still trying to get credit for beating max five and a half years ago, lmao. fighters change, including him.

Yeah but you nerds will bring joe duffy up at the drop of a hat.

 

[RockyLockridge]

whats that make him? too big for the weightclass, and one dessicated manlet

Too big or a manlet. Pick one. Holloway and aldo are also big

 

[Rea_ctor]

Well your arguement is terrible. This has nothing to do with boxing, war, or 16 year olds.

Max Holloway was 21 years old and had less experience than Conor Mcgregor when they fought. If you watched their fight, it showed. So it's really not that debatable.

Your argument is terrible, age no matter what the sport or trade isn't as significant as you make it, he was 21 not 16, had more experience at the top level of the sport to balance out four years in age, whine all you want but a conor bear the shit out of him with a torn knee ligament, end of.