What's the point of nuclear weapon?

[tramendous]

You're wrong if you think a nuclear war can't be won. It definitely can. It will be costly, of course, but whoever comes out on top will rule the world. Thinking that a nuclear war can't be won is just a cult mantra repeated so much that everyone thinks it's true.

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”

― Adolf Hitler

How can a nuclear war be won if both sides are destroyed and the people that are left have no interest in continuing said war.

 

[Phr3121]

Any future global war will be a war without victory. There will be no winners, only losers. Even if you raze to the ground the most powerful military country in the world, fallout and all that crap will be enough to trigger nuclear winter. Why keep those nuclear devices and pay shitload for maintenance where you can just spend this money elsewhere.

I'm sorry, but that is a stupid statement. Why do you think a global war would not have a victory? First, it would never be global. It would involve at least 5 major players. All 5 would be nuclear powers and none would go nuclear. It would all remain conventional. It is called Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD), a doctrine of military strategy and national security policy in which a full-scale use of nuclear weapons by two or more opposing sides would cause the complete annihilation of both the attacker and the defender.

 

[helltoupee]

Imagine if you lived on a very violent street where the most agressive houses were getting guns.

Would you not want a gun in your house just in case your neighbor started shooting at you?

A more apt analogy would ask, would you bomb your entire city just to eliminate that 'aggressive household who has guns'?

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

A more apt analogy would ask, would you bomb your entire city just to eliminate that 'aggressive household who has guns'?

Ok my analogy is shit but I think that yours misses the point.

It's really just about arming yourself to be on par with the party threatening you in order not to be bossed around.

 

[helltoupee]

Ok my analogy is shit but I think that yours misses the point.

It's really just about arming yourself to be on par with the party threatening you in order not to be bossed around.

Fair enough.

 

[badascan]

Swinging dick contest...

 

[superpunch]

You sure globalization and the rise of the multinational corporate interest hasn't done that? You know they called it the war to end all wars before the nukes right?

Wrong war, that's what they called WW I


""The war to end war" (sometimes called "The war to end all wars")[1] was a term for the First World War of 1914–1918. Originally idealistic, it is now used mainly sardonically.[2]

Origin[edit]
During August 1914, immediately after the outbreak of the war, British author and social commentator H. G. Wells published a number of articles in London newspapers that subsequently appeared as a book entitled The War That Will End War.[3] Wells blamed the Central Powers for the coming of the war and argued that only the defeat of German militarism could bring about an end to war.[4] Wells used the shorter form of the phrase, "the war to end war", in In the Fourth Year (1918), in which he noted that the phrase had "got into circulation" in the second half of 1914.[5] In fact, it had become one of the most common catchphrases of the First World War.[4]

In later years, the term became associated with Woodrow Wilson, despite the fact that Wilson used the phrase only once.[6] Along with the phrase "make the world safe for democracy", it embodied Wilson's conviction that America's entry into the war was necessary to preserve human freedom.[6]"

 

[Liquid Smoke]

I don't know but it's better to have one.

 

[Liquid Smoke]

Nuclear weapons ensure that major battles between first rate nation states never exist again. Since WW2, wars have been fought between go betweens, proxies, and minor countries, but NOT between major world powers as has been the rest of recorded history.

USA is the ultimate can crusher.

 

[eembach]

You have m

Wrong war, that's what they called WW I

So they didn't call it the war to end all wars before the nukes? Seems to still be correct, nice try at a cherry pick though.

Nukes are fake.

 

[superpunch]

You think the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had birth defects and the cities were irradiated? Guess again, zero birth defects of any kind and they rebuilt and live there like nothing happened.

I have relatives in Japan from WW II. They definitely got nuked.

But they dont show lots of radiation sickness because the bombs were detonated at a high altitude that dispersed the radiation over a large, meaningless area.

Otherwise, how did 200,000 people die in 1 day with the city leveled to the ground without even an air raid? You think Japan just surrendered for shits and giggles?

Flat Earth bro, flat Earth.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

They'll come up with weapons even more destructive

 

[Phr3121]

But they dont show lots of radiation sickness because the bombs were detonated at a high altitude that dispersed the radiation over a large, meaningless area. Otherwise, how did 200,000 people die in 1 day with the city leveled to the ground without even an air raid? You think Japan just surrendered for shits and giggles?

The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 1,870 ft. for maximum effect. A ground explosion would have killed less people. It had nothing to do with the radiation. Americans knew very little about radiation back in 1945. In fact, American soldiers went to visit Hiroshima on leave and got sick later. It killed close to 100,000 Japanese. The bombings (conventional) in Dresden, Germany, killed far more civilians.

 

[eembach]

I have relatives in Japan from WW II. They definitely got nuked.

But they dont show lots of radiation sickness because the bombs were detonated at a high altitude that dispersed the radiation over a large, meaningless area.

Otherwise, how did 200,000 people die in 1 day with the city leveled to the ground without even an air raid? You think Japan just surrendered for shits and giggles?

Flat Earth bro, flat Earth.

Oh, you expose your ignorance good sir and is not becoming of you.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...japanese-cities-largely-ignored/#.WWvtIIjyuUk

Like i said, no different than firebombing, which actually if you read into the alleged nuclear strikes it was the ensuing fires that did most the damage. Took one day to firebomb Tokyo, you should ask these relatives about the firebombing.

Oh and you want to learn about the Japanese surrender watch this, learn something new:

 

[superpunch]

The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 1,870 ft. for maximum effect. A ground explosion would have killed less people. It had nothing to do with the radiation. Americans knew very little about radiation back in 1945. In fact, American soldiers went to visit Hiroshima on leave and got sick later. It killed close to 100,000 Japanese. The bombings (conventional) in Dresden, Germany, killed far more civilians.

Oh yeah, not saying we knew much about the radiation, it was just by pure chance.

 

[Fugazy]

Like the videos you have in your memory banks of nuclear tests are fake and made on a model set, and either no nukes were dropped on Japan or radiation and nuclear fallout don't work as advertised. No difference between nuked cities and firebombed cities, kind of odd isn't it?

You think the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had birth defects and the cities were irradiated? Guess again, zero birth defects of any kind and they rebuilt and live there like nothing happened.

Nukes are fear porn and part of the mind control brainwashing system to keep everybody suppressed.

Turn off the TV and open your eyes.

Ok, no need to be so agressive there amigo.

I'm asking out of curiosity from what you posted, not to call you a dumbass ct'er or to make fun of you.

Any sources on what you are claiming?

 

[oldshadow]

Yea then tell me home they can tell the difference between steel made before WW II and after WW II.

One is called low background steel.

Why is that, you may ask.

Well lean?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

This besides all the other way to prove nuclear weapons have been used.

As to why, simple. MAD prevents invasion. Why do you think no one has taken over Iseral.

Because .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

 

[savemgs]

Because they make things go boom very good.

 

[RockstarChris]

nuclear weapon technology exists. even if every country on the planet got together and sung songs while holding hands and "got rid of every nuke", every one of those countries would still have nukes.

 

[sleepwalk]

Because best of luck getting the toothpaste back in the tube, that's why.