I include myself in. I'll wait for you to prove I am not. People discredit Weidman's wins over Silva all the time. There is nothing illegitimate about either Weidman win. He knocked Silva out cold the first time. What is illogical about that? Silva had a freak injury, breaking his leg on a checked leg kick? What is illogical about that? Nothing because it is factually what happened. Silva was wrecking everyone before Weidman, with the exception of Chael having success. Weidman beat Silva fair and square. Nothing illogical about that. Weidman had close fights with Romero, Moose and Rockhold. He got stopped brutally against Rockhold and Romero and there was nothing illegitimate about either one's win over him.; Great wins, like most will say but then will flip and say Weidman sucks one sentence later, which is ILLOGICAL because that is factually not true.
If refs did what happened to Weidman in the Moose fight, there would be a fuck ton of stoppages and people would be complaining non-stop on these boards but alas, it was Weidman so it's ok. Cute double standards. Had the roles been reversed and Moose was stopped in that manner, I am 99.9% sure there would be numerous threads bitching about the stoppage and saying the Weidman win is bs but alas, it happened to Weidman and not for Weidman so it's ok.
Explain to me what I said that was illogical about Weidman. I'll give you a hint..... nothing is the answer.
Sounds like my passion just triggered you. That's it.
TL;DR - I agree with your mind, but I disagree with your soul/heart/will.
Ok, I'm gonna explain it, please understand that it's nothing regarding Weidman or Silva, but you.
First and foremost, this thread is about
why Weidman is so self-centered, why the hell do he thinks he's the only one deserving a title shot even though he's a bit far from that, so anything Sillva related is drifting off limits, sadly plenty of Weidman fans keep bringing that fight back from the grave, it seems that after almost 5 years after Silva, Weidman's life still revolve around him.
I agree with everything you said, Weidman won fair and square, I also agree with the other side that their first fight was more of a Silva loss than anything else, it's undeniable that Silva wasn't taking Weidman seriously and he paid the price for it. But let's skip the Silva vs. Weidman analysis because that was discussed aplenty before, ok?
Now, one a closely related talk what if we agree that you're allowed to say that Weidman
was winning up until he lost against Rockhold/Moose/Romero as long as you recognize that both Silva fights were pretty weird when compared to almost any other fight ever. The other way around is also valid, the only fault is when you act one way towards Weidman and other towards Silva.
Either way, scratch that, just let us try to talk about Weidman without mentioning Silva at all, I really refrained from mentioning that because I wanted to focus more on Weidman's way of behaving, that annoys me up to a certain amount, I still have expectations on him: I'd like to see a wrestler that is able to actually submit people instead of LNP, but all I get is a frustrated fighter that sounds bitter every time he opens his mouth/keyboard. All that American Jesus talk is also terrible, akin to Cuban Jesus and Brazilian Jesus (Belfort).
Yes, your passion caught me, but not enough to make me passionate back (which is
good, otherwise we would be acting like children calling one-another names and posting memes, cringeworthy for both sides), I do enjoy talking a lot more when the other side has his mind over his heart. Remember that guy I quoted where you liked his post and I liked his post as well? He just had a solid argument, were it "Weidman beat Silva, get lost!" or "Weidman almost won all fights!" I'd just ignore it.
Let's keep up the good work, deal?