Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Moretti, Jan 10, 2018.
To even think Werdum can beat Stipe at this point is hilarious
Sit down buddy
cain is so overrated
i say that as a fan
sea level cain easily. altitude is a killer. werdum gets smoked at sea level. as does stipe and any hw for that matter.
he also finished JDS and gave him the beatings of his life.
Not to mention Cain has stopped 2 fighters that have KO'd Alistair.
and round and round and round we go.
Your arguments are trash bro. Give it up.
It's like he's being forced to listen to someone's shity homemade hip-hop song. "Ok Frank, don't look at the camera, pretend it's a good song".
Nah he wasn’t
Lol the Travis Browne and Ben Rothwell that fight Overeem, especially Travis Browne were better fighters at that point in their careers. Browne is currently on a 4 fight losing streak with one of those being to Cain.
And if you can't see how Big Nog was just a name at that point in his career, then I don't know what to tell you. I guess Yair Rodriguez has a huge win in BJ Penn on his record too then.
It's stipe and its obviously Stipe
If someone says Cain, they're talking out of their ass
STIPE in about a week.
And Overeem has beaten 2 fighters that have beaten Cain, what's your point?
Overeem has the better wins, just like JDS and Werdum also have better wins than Cain. A win over Ngannou and Stipe will definitely have better wins over Cain.
The guy doesn't fight, the JDS, Bigfoot, and Lesnar fights are all he's got
how does Overeem have better wins?
The 2 JDS victories for Cain are better than any 1 by Alistair. JDS wasn’t the same when he fought Alistair. What other monumental victories does he have? You mentioned Struve and Mir, lol. This isn’t 2010 where Mir is a good win. And Struve is hot garbage. Only reason he is or was ranked is because the HW division sucks.
You legit shit on Cain’s victory of Lesnar, but praise Alistair’s victory of Lesnar. How does that even work?
Cain is a better UFC HW than Alistair. It’s that simple man.
Please explain to me how JDS in the 3rd Cain fight was any different than the JDS that was coming off a KO win vs Hunt in the Overeem fight.
And I'm not shitting on anything Cain has done. It's just kind of hard to put Cain ahead of Overeem when you've beaten 3 fighters over the past 7 1/2 years. Yes, Overeem has more losses in the UFC, but that's because he actually fights more than once a year against different fighters.
Overeem has just beaten better fighters
Yeah, cause Mir hadn't just lost 3 in a row before fighting Overeem.... and Arlovski wasn't in the middle of a 5 fight losing streak.... and Roy Nelson wasn't losing pretty much every fight....
Overeem is the UFC GOAT though.... despite spending 0 days as the #1 ranked UFC HW. The greatest of all time who was never once the greatest at any time lmao
Never once said Overeem was #1. I said Cain was behind Werdum, JDS, Stipe, and Overeem resume wise.
Keep trying though, buddy
.... but he's not though.
That's why he has fought higher ranked opponents, beaten higher ranked opponents and lost to only higher ranked opponents.
Unless you're a champion that worked your way up to win it, your ranking is irrelevant. No two rankings are the same, it's opinion based.
The head to head fights already prove that Overeem fought and beat the better fighters.
And it's hard to lose fights when you don't fight...
you haven't given any example of a "better fighter"
Big Nog is equal to Mir or Struve, Rothwell + Bigfoot have beat Alistair. Lesnar is a wash.
But you're crazy if you think JDS wasn't a different fighter after the 3rd Cain fight.
Big Nog is equal to Mir and Struve? He's 0-3 against them. He's also been finished by Nelson.
Kongo has been finished by Nelson and Mir
Bigfoot, although he's beaten Overeem, has been finished by Hunt, Struve, Nelson, Mir, and Arlovski
Rothwell, also has beaten Overeem, has lost to Hunt and Arlovski
Brad Morris, Jake O'Brien, and Dennis Stojnić are 3 of the 10 fighters Cain has beaten in 10 years. I'm sure you think Cain is #1 based on his potential and not his actual accomplishments
You mean champion.... like Cain Velasquez was twice?
That thing Overeem could never do?
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