Who should profit from automation?

So perhaps someone with a better tech education can help me out here.

If we have a quantum computer, isn't it just a matter of time, before we can write code that isn't binary, before we see revolutionary computational speed increases?

If that is so, when combined with machine learning, aren't we at the cusp of a super intelligence?

Once that happens, what job is safe?

To be clear, I'm not talking about 10 or even 20 years to a super intelligence, but I certainly don't think 30 years away is crazy. As chaotic as automation will be, combined with a superintelligence, we are talking about the end of labor, and being limited only by raw material in resource scarcity.

You're contemplating artificial super intelligence, and your concern is jobs?
 
@VivaRevolution *is* a communist.

Anyways, in a perfect world, automation would benefit all and everything would be free, and rainbows would be produced for everyone. Truth is, someone has to pay for the upkeep and maintence, the initial cost, the actual action side of getting it done.

Get a robotics engineering degree or become a security guard real fast, because those guys are going to be doing most of the human work in stores.

Simple solution seems to be public stock. Gov't provides loans with partial equity stakes, gov't buys stocks, etc. Then the public both gets income and a vote.
 


That guy absolutely did it himself and that journalist is a hack. How the hell did he not ask where the video from the drones perspective came from?

edit: I just read it's possible that it was stored on a sim on the drone. Good thing that wasn't damaged when he blew it to pieces, I suppose.
 
Whatever happened to Thorsten Vebler's Leisure Class that was supposed to emerge from all this automation leading to massive increases in productivity? We were robbed!!

I guess he never accounted for the sociopathic elites that only want control over others and to enslave them with debt instead of allowing everyone to instead spend their time on art and scientific research to advance the benefits for all mankind to share in. LOL
 
Should we be deciding who profits from what? Why do we need to decide who profits why not just let things play out as they always have? We didn't need to decide who profited from the smart phone revolution or the PC revolution they happened and they changed industries.
 
Oh', the public will profit. When the machines take over, the elites will have us living like hogs off the lucrative mandatory $25,000 annual income for everyone.

Autocommusocialism, here we come baby!
That’s the good scenario.

You’re assuming the don’t decide to go full Hunger Games on us.

See posts 47-53 itt

But.... I literally did build that. Physically i put things together and write programs. Thats my job.

And there will always be jobs for people to fix automation. If you think otherwise then you have no concept of how things actually work.
Sure. There will be some such positions. But how many? And what will the competition be like for those gigs? Remember, even the Kapos get it in the end.
 
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Should a capital holder, who has done nothing but accumulate wealth previously, be the major beneficiary of technology that was developed with our tax dollars?

Capital holders put their own money at risk, which allows for investment and growth. People seem to forget this.
 
I fix automated shit, so i do. Also buy stock, job pays good so i make some that way too

I’m an electrical engineer that works heavily with the controls side for plcs and such

I want to get more into robotics as well with my next job

My job is basically to eliminate low paying and dangerous minimum skilled jobs
 
I’m an electrical engineer that works heavily with the controls side for plcs and such

I want to get more into robotics as well with my next job

My job is basically to eliminate low paying and dangerous minimum skilled jobs

i have to say i hate people in your position. my company gives me free reign over plc changes, but dont tell me when engineers do stuff, so i make stuff work after they leave.

the less button pushers the better though. operators are useless.
 
i have to say i hate people in your position. my company gives me free reign over plc changes, but dont tell me when engineers do stuff, so i make stuff work after they leave.

the less button pushers the better though. operators are useless.

You’re an E&I guy? Or an electrical tech then?
 
You’re an E&I guy? Or an electrical tech then?
electrical tech, but i have free access and authority to do whatever i want with the program for some reason. studio 5000 mostly.
 
That’s the good scenario.

You’re assuming the don’t decide to go full Hunger Games on us.

See posts 47-53 itt


Sure. There will be some such positions. But how many? And what will the competition be like for those gigs? Remember, even the Kapos get it in the end.
Good thing America has guns and the citizens actually have a means of rising up.

Anyways, automation has been around for many decades replacing many forms of labour, but we seem to be doing alright still.
 
It's not going to be long before bitcoin will allow us to buy crazy shit like, for example, a silencer for an AR-15.

Oh wait...
You want to segue into gun control? What's crazy about suppressors on AR-15's?
 
I’m an electrical engineer that works heavily with the controls side for plcs and such

I want to get more into robotics as well with my next job

My job is basically to eliminate low paying and dangerous minimum skilled jobs

SCADA is the future. It's getting easier to program, AI can actually almost do it better. It still fucks up sometimes.
 
Because that man is the one who had an idea, took the risk, and created something.



I happen to believe everyone is NOT created equal. Some people are smarter, more hard working, and take more chances/make better life choices. Those
Capital holders put their own money at risk, which allows for investment and growth. People seem to forget this.

Bankster loans you mean.
 
electrical tech, but i have free access and authority to do whatever i want with the program for some reason. studio 5000 mostly.

That’s cool. Edits in Rockwell are really nice and clean to make things function a little better for the application. They’re also the only thing I trust for drive work.

Does your site use any GuardLogix 5000 for safety purposes? There are E&I/tech’s that hate it with the redundancy, but it really operates the same as regular 5000.

I freaking hate programming in Honeywell’s configuration studio for c300 though. Anything I do there, I know I could have done in a 5th of the time in Rockwell. And it’s 10x more complicated for guys to troubleshoot as it isn’t nice and linear like ladder logic as every single freaking device has their own control module and you have to jump around to different screens to get a handle on the flow and intent of the program
 
Profit or benefit? Because I see them as very different in this scernatio.

The people who own, operate and manage the automation should profit. Done properly, we should all benefit.
 
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