Who's the Michael Jordan equivalent of boxing?

Yeah well, your in house survey doesn't represent the consensus of the entire world. It's not hard to see how your circle of family and/or friends wouldn't know much about Jordan if you didn't. Unless you are really talking about some guy name Johnson..lol
Michael Jordan is and always will be more famous than Muhammad Ali. At the very least, the same.

Precisely, id forgotten in the time it took me to type that response....
 
This isn't about if Soccer is more popular than Basketball. This is about Basketball being a global sport, typically only exceeded by soccer in most countries where Soccer is #1. I don't think you understand what you're talking about when it comes to the Jordan Brand. This isn't a romanticized conceptual euphamism for a great player, the Jordan Brand is a real global business. A business that Muhammad Ali definitely would NOT see as an insult, nor anyone else for that matter.

Jordan Brand, a Nike subsidiary born out of his original sneaker deal in 1984, is a dominant force in the sneaker and sport apparel business worldwide. Jordan Brand is a spin off company/brand from Nike Basketball. I believe they formed Jordan Brand in 1996-97 after substantial growth of the Air Jordan line. Jordan Brand has surpassed Nike Basketball in terms of basketball shoe market share. ... Air Jordan is the other brand.
Air Jordan
is a brand of basketball shoes and athletic clothing produced by Nike
The Jordan brand sponsors 21 active NBA players, including Jimmy Butler, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Kawhi Leonard, Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony. They also endorse Nike Air Jordan products. Also they sponsor other leagues such as the MLB, NFL, NASCAR, WNBA, as well as French football team Paris Saint-Germain. In September 2018, French football team, Paris St. Germain, unveiled a third kit featuring the Air Jordan (The Jumpman logo) logo on chest. The "Jumpman" logo is owned by Nike to promote the Air Jordan brand of basketball sneakers and other sportswear. The logo is a silhouette of Michael Jordan performing a slam dunk

The silhouette of Michael Jordan served as inspiration to create the "Jumpman" logo.

Product type Footwear, clothing
Country United States
Introduced November 17, 1984; 33 years ago[a]
Markets Worldwide
Website Air Jordan at Nike

1) The Company sponsors multiple sports teams and leagues globally.
2) It's a major marketshare player in the seaker and apparel space globally.
3) Jordan still makes $100 million a year on his deal signed in 1984.
4) He's the majority owner of the Charlotte Hornets NBA team acquired by his ownership income from the COMPANY and BRAND that bears his name (The Jordan Brand and Air Jordan).
5) And he's the wealthiest former athlete in the history of all sports with a net wealth of $1 Billion dollars.
6) Everyone worldwide that wears his gear, knows exactly who Michael Jordan is...
ALL those facts (1-5) are unprecedented in the history of sports, for ANY athlete past or present.
And you say there's nothing compelling or revolutionary about him outside of playing the game?

Forgot to add that Michael Jordan was in Space Jam, which is what truly cemented his place in history
 
I don't think there is one, but the closest I've seen is probably Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali or Roy Jones, Jr. Michael Jordan is a special case of dominance, only really ever being challenged by Lebron James' performances; I don't think there are many 'MJs' of other sports.

There are plenty of other MJ's. Wayne Gretsky is one of them.

In boxing, those mentioned are in the mix and if Loma can do it for another 5 to 10 years.
 
There are plenty of other MJ's. Wayne Gretsky is one of them.

In boxing, those mentioned are in the mix and if Loma can do it for another 5 to 10 years.

I don't think there are none, but there aren't many. Really I can only think of Wayne Gretzky and Tiger Woods. I'm open to hear more if you know more, but I can't think of a Baseball, Football, Soccer, etc. player that transcended their respective sports in the way they did.
 
Yeah well, your in house survey doesn't represent the consensus of the entire world. It's not hard to see how your circle of family and/or friends wouldn't know much about Jordan if you didn't. Unless you are really talking about some guy name Johnson..lol
Michael Jordan is and always will be more famous than Muhammad Ali. At the very least, the same.
Jordan bigger than Ali? No way. People who weren't even into boxing like my Mum know who Ali was. She'd never heard of Michael Jordan. Some people aren't aware of basketball as a sport and they wouldn't know Jordan. Boxing transcends sports. You don't even have to watch boxing to know who Ali was. Jordan came at a time where you could have your own shoe named after you. Ali was before all of that. If Ali was around today he'd have his own clothing label, no doubt.
 
Precisely, id forgotten in the time it took me to type that response....

To quote myself...i actually knew at the start this was about the shoe guy(Jordan), and then flipped to Magic Johnson(i think he was in Space Jam)...hence the incorrect name.

People outside of the US do not give a single fuck about Basketball, its hard to undertstand, but we dont!

There is also a guy who is slightly homosexual who was on British TV at some point, and he had yellow hair, and i think Kobe Bryant may be a basketball player.

I could name more NFL players than Basketballers(i dont even know what to call them)
 
I just looked two polls had Ali in the top ten one had Jordan at 23 the other at 54 hope it doesn't ruin your night.
OK, so now we're using online lists? Least you could do is post the links.
I kept my search specific with, "recognizable, famous and iconic" athlete, since that's the conversation, NOT best athlete (even though Jordan runs the table on those lists at #1).

https://list25.com/25-most-iconic-athletes-in-the-history-of-sports/5/

Most Iconic in the History of Sports
#16 Ali
#1 Michael Jordan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-most-recognizable-athletes-in-sports-history
5 most Recognizable Athletes in Sports History
#3 Ali
#2 Jordan

https://www.draftkings.com/playbook/news/honor-ali-10-iconic-athletes-ever
10 Iconic Athletes Ever
#2 Ali
#1 Jordan

Should we continue?
 
I don't think there are none, but there aren't many. Really I can only think of Wayne Gretzky and Tiger Woods. I'm open to hear more if you know more, but I can't think of a Baseball, Football, Soccer, etc. player that transcended their respective sports in the way they did.
Babe Ruth?
 
Jordan bigger than Ali? No way. People who weren't even into boxing like my Mum know who Ali was. She'd never heard of Michael Jordan. Some people aren't aware of basketball as a sport and they wouldn't know Jordan. Boxing transcends sports. You don't even have to watch boxing to know who Ali was. Jordan came at a time where you could have your own shoe named after you. Ali was before all of that. If Ali was around today he'd have his own clothing label, no doubt.
But he's not and so he falls short as far as the total numbers go. Sorry but Mum's vote isnt enough.
 
ahh you big baby, now you want links? keep looking and don't look at sports specific, look at FAME sucker.

QUOTE="nastyleft, post: 145554193, member: 442381"]OK, so now we're using online lists? Least you could do is post the links.
I kept my search specific with, "recognizable, famous and iconic" athlete, since that's the conversation, NOT best athlete (even though Jordan runs the table on those lists at #1).

https://list25.com/25-most-iconic-athletes-in-the-history-of-sports/5/

Most Iconic in the History of Sports
#16 Ali
#1 Michael Jordan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-most-recognizable-athletes-in-sports-history
5 most Recognizable Athletes in Sports History
#3 Ali
#2 Jordan

https://www.draftkings.com/playbook/news/honor-ali-10-iconic-athletes-ever
10 Iconic Athletes Ever
#2 Ali
#1 Jordan

Should we continue?[/QUOTE]
 
Babe Ruth?
what i'm saying even though these dodos here don't get it, is that media has changed so it's hard to compare. how you gonna compare eras when they hardly could film or they only had it on chanell four or whatever with eras where you have youtube, big business promoting you etc.., Put Jordan in the 20's through the sixties and he woulda been no more popular than wilt or russell who were known to us but no one else and they couldn't get selling contracts because even Ali couldn't get much in the late 70's because as his reps tell the story "we don't want black people in our stores". Jordan/Tiger owe a debt to all the great black athletes that came before them but they'll never admit it.
 
Edit: just kidding rubberneck.
And as for you captain rubbernekc, you really got me pissed, yes post more you big baby. fuck you, fuck sherdog fuck jordan, fuck the lot of ya.

ahh you big baby, now you want links? keep looking and don't look at sports specific, look at FAME sucker.

QUOTE="nastyleft, post: 145554193, member: 442381"]OK, so now we're using online lists? Least you could do is post the links.
I kept my search specific with, "recognizable, famous and iconic" athlete, since that's the conversation, NOT best athlete (even though Jordan runs the table on those lists at #1).

https://list25.com/25-most-iconic-athletes-in-the-history-of-sports/5/

Most Iconic in the History of Sports
#16 Ali
#1 Michael Jordan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-most-recognizable-athletes-in-sports-history
5 most Recognizable Athletes in Sports History
#3 Ali
#2 Jordan

https://www.draftkings.com/playbook/news/honor-ali-10-iconic-athletes-ever
10 Iconic Athletes Ever
#2 Ali
#1 Jordan

Should we continue?
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Nobody’s mentioned Jack Johnson yet.
 
Asians love basketball. I lived there for a little. The locals around me sure did. Stephon Marbury played over there I believe. Many guys who couldn't make it to the league go over there. Pacquiao played pro basketball if I'm not mistaken. The manager of the gym I worked at was a pro basketball player over there; tall guy from the US. They definitely knew who Kobe was where I went. lol
Pac played semi-pro basketball.

Pacquiao plays basketball as cross-training to keep himself in shape. He previously played in the semi-professional basketball league, Liga Pilipinas, for the MP-Gensan Warriors, a team that he also owns. He made his debut in the Smart-Liga Pilipinas Conference II in January 16, 2009.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao#Basketball_career
 
Lol did he get paid?
I couldn't tell you. Semi-Pro leagues are very common particularly in basketball. Remember this movie?
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Sam Langford
 
ahh you big baby, now you want links? keep looking and don't look at sports specific, look at FAME sucker.

QUOTE="nastyleft, post: 145554193, member: 442381"]OK, so now we're using online lists? Least you could do is post the links.
I kept my search specific with, "recognizable, famous and iconic" athlete, since that's the conversation, NOT best athlete (even though Jordan runs the table on those lists at #1).

https://list25.com/25-most-iconic-athletes-in-the-history-of-sports/5/

Most Iconic in the History of Sports
#16 Ali
#1 Michael Jordan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-most-recognizable-athletes-in-sports-history
5 most Recognizable Athletes in Sports History
#3 Ali
#2 Jordan

https://www.draftkings.com/playbook/news/honor-ali-10-iconic-athletes-ever
10 Iconic Athletes Ever
#2 Ali
#1 Jordan

Should we continue?
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Ummm did you read the post, sucka? That's exactly what I did...

Just take another shot of what you're drinking...take the L and move on.
 
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