Why does Fedor suck so much in a cage? | Page 2

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  1. cyrusthevyrus Black Belt

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    absolutely not. This happened as well to UFC fighters. This is clear, you are a PRIDE hater and probably affined to Sonnen's speech
     
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    Loved Pride. Always have. You're clearly wearing rose tinted glasses. You're denying clear facts like Hendo being older than Fedor as well as him being much smaller.

    Fedor benefited from being well ahead of the game in terms of being a well rounded MMAist in an era of 1 dimensional fighter. When others became more rounded, he lost that edge. No doubt a legend and still the best HW of all time, but the game caught up with him. That's not even a knock on him, it's just a fact.
     
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    exceptions happen, see GSP vs Serra. so your argument doesnt stand
     
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    real simple

    Fedor has fought hundreds of Sambo matches in the ring
    Fedor has fought hundres of Judo matches in the ring
    Fedor was the RINGS champ
    He was the PRIDE Champ (ring)
    Fedor was the AFFLICTION champ (Ring)

    After thousands of matches in the ring in Sambo, Judo and MMA he suddenly had to swtich to the cage..


    Also Fedor totally destroyed Ishii in the ring, the same guy that gave massive problems to Cro Cop, Rampage and Mo

    ishii back then was possibly a better fighter than Mitrione is now and Fedor destroying ishii was impressive as Fedor was the first guy to stop Ishii




    The exact same thing happend to cro cop

    Cro Cop went back to Japan to fight in the ring but Fedor for some reason went back fightging in a cage

    If Fedor goes to Japan and fights in a ring I bet he looks great and easily beats the cop, likewise if Cro Cop comes back to the cage I bet he will suck again
     
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    Cro Cop and Nog were PRIDE's poster boys at HW

    PRIDE did not like Fedor particularly much and did not like his management either
     
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    What the fuck are you talking about?

    Every single word of this quote is wrong lol
     
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    <This7> THIS.


     
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    The cage hasn’t even been a factor in Fedor having a massive drop off.

    It’s not like fighters pinned him against it and cost him a fight. It’s not like he used the ring well to corner people... ring/cage has little or nothing to do with his rapid decline.

    Fedor just got fatter and lazier as many guys his age do. He found religion and lost his drive to train like he used to.

    Monson in the ring was a terrible example. Monson was totally shot by that fight and a totally different class of fighter than Fedor.
     
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    Yes ofcourse... Professional Fighter Fedor now knows for years he sucks in a cage and is scared and uncomfortable going into the cage, but still signs up with Bellator for fights in a cage...

    Yes that would be it...
     
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    Mileage counts.

    Cain Velasquez is non existant after fighting once every two years.

    It's not about age
     
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    wtf are you saying lmao
     
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    Drug testing
     
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    Werdum had way less fights, hendo was on the sauce
     
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    What the hell is going on in that picture?
     
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    The angles are very different. He had the opportunity to get used to it, and didn't, but there is absolutely a difference.
     
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    Other factors in the equation

    Prime:Ring > Prime:Cage
     
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    No but his training was
     
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    Hunt started slowing down in Pride, Hunt was able to control him and overpower him quite easily in the clinch despite being very green and taking the fight on short notice. He showed signs of slowing down against AA too, AA was doing well until the KO...Fedor couldn't react to Arlovski's speed. He even had his hands full against Rogers, Rogers was mauling him on the ground for a while, Fedor was showing that he was starting to struggle against larger heavyweights.

    I don't think the cage has anything to do with it, unlike Cro Cop who wasn't properly prepared and would routinely get controlled against the cage Fedor losses generally came from quick KO's or being overpowered from larger heavyweights, Fedor typically fought mid sized heavyweights around the 220-240 range like Nog, Coleman, Randleman, CC, Goodridge & Herring were probably the two larger guys he fought in his prime. Towards the later end of his career, he looked like he had lost some mass which may or may not have contributed.

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    Hendo was clearly bigger, clearly better technically thsn Coleman (except not really). He fought Fabio in a cage, another highly skilled giant. Really Herring was as big as Mitrione.
     
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