Why does the right doesn't hold Trump accountable like they did with Obama?

This is fucking hilarious. Well the first part anyways. If anything, the left had been more consistent. Obama inherited the housing collapse and two horribly executed wars which the left rightfully blamed on Bush to some extent. Lybia, Syria and the Ukraine fall squarely with Obama with the only caveat that he was a lame duck at year 2 thanks to the obstructionist party.

Trump inherited a growing economy and improving unemployment figured which Trump claimed were fake until he got into office. Trump is dismantling regulations; which are typical enacted when something bad happens and regulations are a way to correct or prevent future issues. Trump is rewriting decades of foreign policy for better or worse but the reason why they don’t change much over the decades is to give confidence to other world leaders that when a new President comes in office They can expect some level of normalcy.
so you backed up what i said. thanks. whatever bad that went on during obamas terms can be blamed on bush. thanks.

also, dont forget that a president has nothing to do with gas prices (what the left said when prices were sky high early in his presidency). but also remember how much prices came down due to obamas effective leadership
 
so you backed up what i said. thanks. whatever bad that went on during obamas terms can be blamed on bush. thanks.

also, dont forget that a president has nothing to do with gas prices (what the left said when prices were sky high early in his presidency). but also remember how much prices came down due to obamas effective leadership

Exactly what I said. I see you aren’t here to debate but rather say something wrong and then put your fingers in your ears screaming MAGA
 
Maybe because you can't take the time to make the thread title in proper English.
 
They are probably getting some of that Manafort laundered money and/or Chump ho services w/o condom.
 
I mean the hypocrisy is outstanding, you have a guy like president Obama who the right called anti christ, mocked his way of dressing called his wife a shemale. Any law he passed was scrutinized.
And them Trump perhaps in the top 5 worst presidents ever, it would take me a day to write all his fuck ups, the Saudi arms deal, Israel capital, the bombings, the prostitution.
Imagine a world where Obama did this, the hypocrite right would reach the high level and get the man impeached. When Trump gets out of office, youre going to see a shift and the same trampazees defending him, are going to attack him.
So in your opinion does the right hold Trump at the Same standards they did with Obama?

you know that the dems, libs, SJWs, antifas, feminazis, etc, etc, do the same thing to Trump.
 
Exactly what I said. I see you aren’t here to debate but rather say something wrong and then put your fingers in your ears screaming MAGA
i dont even like trump. so how could i debate a person who wants to put words in my mouth? you cant even acknowledge that both sides like to blamethe other for their shortcomings? my bad. dems are always completely honest. only the right does that. thanks for putting me in line
 
Christian Values like raw dogging porn stars, lying, taking bribes, those kind of values?

One doesn't need to be a saint to promote Christian values; nor was Trump ever seen as one.
 
Same reason that if someone says you did something wrong, you’re more inclined to become defensive than if you realized it yourself.

Trump has a lot of faults, but on message boards people are quick to use that as ammo against other posters. So it becomes a game of dodging each other’s bullets instead of shooting in the same direction, so to speak.

So “the internet” is my answer.
 
One doesn't need to be a saint to promote Christian values; nor was Trump ever seen as one.

Overt hypocrisy is probably one of the least effective ways to promote any kind of values.
 
Overt hypocrisy is probably one of the least effective ways to promote any kind of values.

One doesn't even need to identify as Christian to promote/support "Christian values". Extremists... those who think in absolutes, have difficulty understanding the concept of there being middle ground.
 
One doesn't even need to identify as Christian to promote/support "Christian values". Extremists... those who think in absolutes, have difficulty understanding the concept of there being middle ground.

I never said anything about what one has to identify as in orderto promote a paticular value.

What I said that being a hypocrite about a valueis not the best way to promote it.

Credibility is a nessicity in order to propagate any kind of meaningful value-system.
 
Well, I don't think it's realistic (even if we were to suppose that Trump supporters/Republicans are of equal principle as their counterparts) to expect them to hold their own party figure accountable to the same degree as the opposing party. It's certainly remarkable, and in modern times unprecedented, how openly corrupt and incompetent this administration is and how completely disregardful the right is of its malfeasance.

However, I think the more precise question should be whether the right has been as scrutinizing of Trump as the left was of Obama, and whether the left has been as accommodating/severe in their criticism of Trump. But in both cases, it's clear that the left held Obama to much, much higher standards, politically, procedurally, and policy-wise and has likewise not reflexively opposed all of Trump's policies arbitrarily like the right did with Trump and have given him praise in his rare moments of being right.

It's a hard comparison to draw, though, since Obama was skilled, competent, and furthered policies that were good faith attempts at good government, while Trump is boorish, incompetent, and has furthered objectively porous policies (which is owed far more to the complete soullessness and lack of integrity of the Republican Party, rather than Trump himself, who I do think would cosign whatever his advisers told him was good policy).



Yeah, he's been likewise panned by historians, policy experts, and people who come to this discussion with clean hands on appraising presidential performance.

So, no, TS is not an idiot. You are an idiot.



Even REPUBLICAN scholars have him as #40 out of 45 lol



TOP 10 IN 2018

1. Lincoln
2. Washington
3. F.D. Roosevelt
4. T. Roosevelt
5. Jefferson
6. Truman
7. Eisenhower
8. Obama
8. Clinton
9. Reagan
9. Jackson
10. L.B. Johnson
10. Wilson

...

44. Trump


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...up-against-the-best-and-worst-presidents.html

Obama @ 8

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As long as he triggers liberals, they'll love everything he does.
 
i didnt know where to put this since i dont see a thread on the royal wedding. i usually dont post political stuff on my facebook because it never ends well. but me british boxer friend made a post about how it is a big waste of tax payer money (the wedding). here is the cliff notes of the discussion that followed.....

some girl: just like how trump wastes taxpayer money on all his golf!

me: both sides waste money (remember Obama's many vacations (like bush's, etc).

some girl: DRINK THE KOOL AID!

me: for saying both sides waste money?

some girl: RACIST!!!

me: huh?

some girl: you need to relax
 
i didnt know where to put this since i dont see a thread on the royal wedding. i usually dont post political stuff on my facebook because it never ends well. but me british boxer friend made a post about how it is a big waste of tax payer money (the wedding). here is the cliff notes of the discussion that followed.....

some girl: just like how trump wastes taxpayer money on all his golf!

me: both sides waste money (remember Obama's many vacations (like bush's, etc).

some girl: DRINK THE KOOL AID!

me: for saying both sides waste money?

some girl: RACIST!!!

me: huh?

some girl: you need to relax

cool story
 
Easy...trump comes across as American first.

Obama came across as, I dont like America, I will change it.

Plus that fact that Obama chain smoked newport's puts him down a few pegs

Obama fining people who didint have insurance...jeeze.

Thankfully trump has almost reversed everything
 
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