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You should ask Claudio Calasans about that.
I'm not familiar but I'll check him out
You should ask Claudio Calasans about that.
I never understood why wrist locks are viewed as rude. I don't think they work against good opponents anyway. People in my academy try them but they only work against white belts or accidentally due to position once in a blue moon
That’s because the people at your academy aren’t very good at them.
That might be true but I almost never see them in regional competition either in any division
In all fairness, very few people at any level are good at them. Calasans is the only top guy that I can think of.
So many upper belts I know dislike verbal tapping. I don't get it. On heel hooks and wrist locks I almost always verbal tap even if I don't think I need to. But I've had other upper belts be like "Nah man. Fuck that. I'm not verbal tapping unless it's really bad." Dude who cares if other people hear that you've tapped. Verbal tap also doesn't mean you have to scream like a wuss. You can just calmly say "tap."
In all fairness, very few people at any level are good at them. Calasans is the only top guy that I can think of.
LOL, get a real job.THIS GUY'S livelihood is playing/teaching guitar...how could you possibly judge him for wanting to be able to continue to put food on his table?
Man, this place is a shit show sometimes.
I play in a band and will not practice/train BJJ in the days leading up to a show because a really good wristlock will completely fuck me up. I can still play with a fucked elbow and shoulder, but playing guitar is all in the wrist. If you don't play guitar, or don't care about playing guitar, stfu and move on. THIS GUY'S livelihood is playing/teaching guitar...how could you possibly judge him for wanting to be able to continue to put food on his table?
For some, BJJ IS LIFE, for others, BJJ is jsut a part of life.
Quit being assholes.
A dual Judo/Aikido Shodan does these weird cranking my palm out in some of his sleeve/wrist grips. He caught me Seoi Nage in Randori and forced me to circle to his forward side. Now that I've worked with him drilling it could be devastating if you didn't get time to understand what was happening.I think wrist attacks are a relatively unexplored territory much like leg attacks were a few years ago. I don't think refinement would drive nearly as large a change in the metagame simply because upper body control is already orthodox, but I firmly believe there is fertile ground. I have a background in Aikido (yeah, yeah...) and the rotating wrist lock families are almost totally ignored in BJJ. I'm hardly a world-beater, but I have a few positions (spiderweb, omoplata, etc) where I've developed "unique to me" wrist attacks that catch people I have otherwise no business tapping. Done properly, a wrist attack can be applied with full control, with plenty of time to tap, and without sacrificing position. I'm not going to say that they're necessarily higher-percentage than the more standard BJJ approaches to those positions, but they do have a nice quality that the defense to the wrist almost always opens up a larger joint, and you can usually attack the wrist and elbow/shoulder simultaneously to each attack's mutual benefit.
I think he got flack for a few reasons, namely that he seemed to imply wrist locks were illegal or dirty moves, which they aren't. He could easily have asked his instructor about the legality of them, or done a quick google search. I got on my high horse about the "my defense is good" thing, but that's a pet peeve of mine. I feel a little bad about that.
I think it's reasonable for OP to ask his partners not to wrist lock him; but he should be aware that they are doing him a solid.
I'm sympathetic to the idea that he needs his hands to earn a living, but then again, if you have a job where your livelihood will be materially impacted by an injury, should you really be doing BJJ? It's downright irresponsible if you've got mouths to feed, and yet, I know people who do it, and frequently they don't train in the most cautious manner.
Years ago, I trained with a professional viola player (she was in a major symphony orchestra) who hurt her hands boxing. She couldn't work (for a while). I felt bad, but at the same time, what was she thinking?
In all fairness, very few people at any level are good at them. Calasans is the only top guy that I can think of.
iv never really trained them outside of using it to break an armbar defense. i think they are to dangerous to do in competitions even in the gym you can hurt someone bad especially during a heated scramble
I've come close to landing kote gaeshi in tournaments a few times but have yet to fully seal the deal
Thanks, I wasn't aware that wrist locks were allowed in class or in competition at all. I'll begin training them. Also, the reason I have good defense is because I'm smaller than the majority of the people who roll so I've had to develop a decent bottom game. I have good fundamental sweeps but you make it sound like shelling up is a bad thing or easy to do when someone much bigger/stronger/better than you is on top. A strong frame is a fundamental part of BJJ and grappling in general. If you can't break someones shell then you need to work on your attacks and top game.
Any go to examples you like?A great way to break someone's frame is to wrist lock.
Any go to examples you like?