Your thoughts on those modern reboots of classic slasher franchises?

[Peteyandjia]

Haven't watched any of that garbage.

 

[Guestx]

The RZ Halloween had a single scene that ruined the entire movie for me.

Well? What scene was it?

 

[Turtlejuice]

I recently watched the Friday 13th remake. I thought it was ok, but it could have been good if they'd just gone for a new film rather than trying to cram the first 3 films in to 1.

 

[TrueBias]

Consider this a companion thread to my "iconic slasher villain" thread.

I'm sure most of you remember the relatively recent reboots of the NOES, Friday the 13th and Halloween franchises. You also probably noticed that these were mostly one and done, with Friday the 13th and NOES never coming back to haunt us again, and Halloween only getting a single sequel.

For those who saw them, what did you think of these new versions of classic horror tales? And do you think they deserved to spawn a new series, as was undoubtedly the original intention?

The answer is in the sales. No one is asking for these and ultimately, not a lot will see them.

The key to making reboots is to do movies that either look awful now or just simply couldn't be done right way back whenever.

As far as my opinion on these 3 go...ill rate them from best to worst or decent to fucking shit.

Friday the 13th
Nightmare
Halloween

I remember Friday being ok buts its the simplest story to do with our lead with no lines. I forgot all about it.

Nightmare i revisited last year. Its nicely done but boring.

Halloween and rob zombie? Fuck him and his shit movies.

I did see and enjoy the remake of Tecas Chainsaw Massacre. Now do i prefer the grit of the original over the new one? Depends on my mood. But id say i enjoyed it because it looks like it was made with some dusty, foggy ass cameras.

 

[Rydaddylonglegs]

Jackie Earl Haley was the BEST aspect of the NOES remake, but the movie was just so ...lackluster feeling to me. But you’re right the dirdctors and stuff may have the heart behind doing the originals justice, but redesigning these iconic characters for todays audiences, when “what made them great” was how they were written back in their heyday... like they were written for a completely different audience and their films reflect that.... todays film demands very cookie cutter plots/characters to get in audiences

Like people hate Rob Zombies house of 1000 corpses but I dunno I think that movie is good in a verrrry uniquely bizarre way

If it was released in the 80’s it’d be a cult classic probably

I never understood the hate for house of 1000 corpses.. I thought it was super unique and extremely well acted (it’s what you expect the characters to act like, in this case). The references to Alice in Wonderland always interested me. Going into Dr. Satan’s “rabbit hole” is one of my favorite movie scenes. Lol.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

none of them are remotely on the level of Dawn of the Dead, which is a phenomenal movie

Personally I think they need to remake The People Under the Stairs, as it's not that well known, and has quite an interesting story

 

[lifelessheap]

I was sick of Hollywood's lack of ideas and spinelessness two decades ago.

Where did Harvey touch you? But, I agree. Rebooting those movies was retarded, and they didn't even do it in creative ways.

They made them more boring than the originals.

 

[lifelessheap]

One justification could be the same reason James Bond was rebooted with Casino Royale: There are more stories to tell with these characters.

Presumably if these new versions had spawned sequels then the sequels would've been new stories, not remakes of the old stories.



I have to disagree on that one.

For me, that subject is such an uncomfortable one that I can't have fun with it. All the fun factor would be killed if I'm watching 90 minutes of a pedophile trying to murder kids. At the end of the day these films are still supposed to be entertaining and that is just not entertaining to me. It's the wrong kind of creepy.

How sweet, fresh meat.

Him being a pedo-creep is central to the story. A town full of parents burned him to death when they took justice into their own hands. They murdered him to protect their children and he becomes a super natural being that hunts their children anyway.

 

[BEER]

Well? What scene was it?

Spoiler

When he kills Danny Trejo's character. The Micheal Meyers character is set up so that he only seems to be killing people who have wronged him. Trejo's character was good to him and seemed to have a decent working relationship. But he kills him anyway, which makes the "he's going to get his sister back" plotline moot imo

 

[Guestx]

Spoiler

When he kills Danny Trejo's character. The Micheal Meyers character is set up so that he only seems to be killing people who have wronged him. Trejo's character was good to him and seemed to have a decent working relationship. But he kills him anyway, which makes the "he's going to get his sister back" plotline moot imo

Spoiler

I thought about that myself. Up to that point, Michael still seems to have a sliver of a moral compass. For instance, he doesn't kill his sister or his mom when he goes on his night of terror and he doesn't kill the girl who gets raped in his cell.

My dad on him killing Trejo's character was that he had made the full transformation into all out psychopath. There was no conscience at all anymore, no humanity. He was just a madman, like Michael was in the original film.

 

[Andersons Foot]

This movie almost killed me once. I was really high and the way the old man from the beginning talked and acted was making me laugh so hard that I actually passed out briefly and fell down in my kitchen. Gave the wife a good scare. If the guys from the original have anything to do with the newer movies, I'd be interesting in watching them.

Also, this song rocks.

Yeah that guy was the ultimate hick. The soundtrack to that movie is pretty awesome.

 

[bowened]

I Spit On Your Grave and Last House on the Left also had pretty good remakes.

Didn't see the remake of I Spit on Your Grave. I only saw the original once...and that makes me not want to see the remake. The excruciatingly long scene in the original with her and the three rednecks just made me feel awful watching it. And then the last scene in the bathtub... My stomach just turned thinking about it. The remake can't be nearly as gnarly, is it?

 

[BEER]

Didn't see the remake of I Spit on Your Grave. I only saw the original once...and that makes me not want to see the remake. The excruciatingly long scene in the original with her and the three rednecks just made me feel awful watching it. And then the last scene in the bathtub... My stomach just turned thinking about it. The remake can't be nearly as gnarly, is it?

Still pretty gnarly, but not quite the original.

 

[ufcfan4]

Thanks bro, I appreciate it.



It's funny how people's tastes go. Because you think it was the worst of the three while there are others ITT who say it was the best.



Props for being a /Film (a.k.a. Slashfilm for those who don't know) reader.

Their podcast is actually my favorite movie podcast. I've been listening for years.



Like I said in an earlier post, I thought the NOES remake was okay, but I didn't like the pedophilia overtones and I didn't think all that was necessary. To quote myself, "It was the wrong kind of creepy."

Other than that though, I remember thinking it was a solid enough reboot, though Freddy being a wisecracker was always one of my favorite things about the character.

Been a long time since I last watched any of the films in the original series, except for the first one, which I saw just a few years ago. When I was younger I remember really liking The Dream Master, but I would have to go back and re-watch them all today to re-assess the franchise to have a real opinion.

I have to re watch as well but I feel like the original, Dream Warriors, Dream Master and New Nightmare were real good while the others were varying shades of fun bad/real bad.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

So just a quick rating out of 10 on the Zombie Halloween. Did you like it better than Halloween 4?

@shadow_priest_x

 

[BisexualMMA]

Didn't see the remake of I Spit on Your Grave. I only saw the original once...and that makes me not want to see the remake. The excruciatingly long scene in the original with her and the three rednecks just made me feel awful watching it. And then the last scene in the bathtub... My stomach just turned thinking about it. The remake can't be nearly as gnarly, is it?

It would be hard to top that movie unless they go full Eli Roth with the torture porn.

Damn, there was some brutal stuff in the original.

Spoiler

Didn't she get raped in the woods, and then while she was walking home to recover from that rape, she got raped again?

 

[Philo-Publius]

I never understood the hate for house of 1000 corpses.. I thought it was super unique and extremely well acted (it’s what you expect the characters to act like, in this case). The references to Alice in Wonderland always interested me. Going into Dr. Satan’s “rabbit hole” is one of my favorite movie scenes. Lol.

I felt like House of a 1000 Corpses was a cheap Texas Chainsaw Massacre imitation. The only point in the movie that got me just a little anxious was in the beginning when the clown character was messing with those people.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

My thoughts on Friday the 13th part 1


One of the worst movies I have ever seen

Incredibly boring
Unlikable characters
Really really bad practical effects

It is easy the worst original movie out of the big 3 Michael,Jason,Freddy

I would not recommend this movie to anybody

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

It would be hard to top that movie unless they go full Eli Roth with the torture porn.

Damn, there was some brutal stuff in the original.

Spoiler

Didn't she get raped in the woods, and then while she was walking home to recover from that rape, she got raped again?

Spoiler

In the remake of I Spit On Your Grave she takes a shotgun and rapes a guys asshole with it

She then fires the gun while inside the guys asshole

 

[Guestx]

So just a quick rating out of 10 on the Zombie Halloween. Did you like it better than Halloween 4?

@shadow_priest_x

Well, I intentionally didn't rate it because I felt like I'm not the kind of person who will fully appreciate the film.

Like I said in my review, I think that the look and atmosphere of the film, the performances and the action is all very well-executed. And one thing I didn't mention is that Michael himself I think is well-realized. I liked the fuck that he was fucking huge, I liked the way he moved, and I liked the mask. (You'll remember those last two were major complaints of mine on Halloween 4.)

But the utter depravity, the unceasing meanness and bitterness, the almost complete dearth of likable and sympathetic characters, and unflinching brutality turn this into a movie that is just not something that I really ENJOYED very much.

One of the podcasts I listen to did a review on the movie that I've been listening to:

http://www.nowplayingpodcast.com/episode.htm?id=613

And something that one of the hosts says is that Rob Zombie "goes too far" and doesn't know when to pull back, and I agree with that.

I do think the film is well-made for what it is, and I think that if this were the kind of movie that I usually get into then I'd rate it highly. Probably an 8/10 or perhaps even higher. But since it's not, if I'm factoring my enjoyment into the equation, then I guess I'll give it a 6/10.

In regard to how I feel that it compares to Halloween 4, I think that RZ's film is more skillfully made. But the style and vibe of Halloween 4 is more to my liking so for me it comes out ahead. I'm sure at some point in the future I will rewatch Halloween 4; I can't say the same for Zombie's film.