2017 Election Night in America (Virginia and NJ)

[Rod1]

IF you're not extreme left or extreme right then you're a communist or a nazi.

Or a RINO.

 

[Limbo Pete]

There is nothing to counter, you're living in self induced hysteria.

No way bruh
Why isn't the left importing mass amounts of Russians, huh? Answer me that.
White. Genocide.
Irrefutable.

 

[Rational Poster]

https://spacedoutscientist.com/2017/07/18/single-parents-worldwide-statistics-and-trends/

Lower single motherhood rate in Mexico than in the US and the UK.

Also why do Indians and Jews (overwhelmingly the highest IQ and financially succesful groups) voted Democrat in higher numbers than Latinos?

Because they were promised free stuff!

 

[goldennirvana]

https://spacedoutscientist.com/2017/07/18/single-parents-worldwide-statistics-and-trends/

Lower single motherhood rate in Mexico than in the US and the UK.

And? The USA & UK aren't very Christian either. Just because Mexicans (I said hispanics) are slightly more Christian than Americans and Britons, that really doesn't say much.

Also why do Indians and Jews (overwhelmingly the highest IQ and financially succesful groups) voted Democrat in higher numbers than Latinos?

Indians vote Democrat at a higher rate because Democrats have a perception of being more understanding of their needs, which I think is probably true. That's one group that Republicans could successfully go after though.

Jews vote Democrat at a higher rate because they support mass immigration, multiculturalism, feminism etc etc.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Things should be intresting if it goes the way people here are saying.

First the democrats get more power and they will do the same thing they have before Trump and push to the left on social issues harder then before. They didn't learn anything from the Trump win.

Then the snap back will come and they will cry nd not understand why this would happen.

Maybe the republicans will learn and find a better candidate to put coward.

It seems like there is no place for the majority who tend to be more center so we will support the snap back candidate's.

If the democrats would come to the center more or for that matter if some of the republicans would do the same things would work out for all.

But I don't see hope of that especially on the left so we will have to fight to protect by any means the things we most believe in and ride the snap back out when it comes.

Such are things now.

I agree that left panders too much to the extreme elements as does the right but I have little doubt if Bill Clinton came along today with the same policies he would be embraced by the dems and have little trouble winning the nomination even Jimmy Carter would imo but on the right I don't think Reagan or Bush 1 would stand a chance , their policies are too far "left"

So who has shifted?

 

[goldennirvana]

There is nothing to counter, you're living in self induced hysteria.

You've completely given up. You gave it a go though! You certainly lasted longer than I thought you would.

The facts remain: Democrats constantly talk about how great it will be once whites become the minority in the USA because that will completely change the political landscape as mass immigration from developing/third world nations is overwhelmingly a mass importation of Democrat voters. They however would not support such a mass migration if it was a load of white Orthodox Russian Christians all flooding over the border, with these Russian Christians overwhelmingly voting Republican, and moving the Republican party further to the right. Nor would they support amnesty of a load of illegal Russian Christian immigrants, who they know will go on to vote Republican.

I have made my point crystal clear and you have not provided a single counter-argument why I'm wrong, instead just attempted deflections and irrelevant babble.

 

[Rational Poster]

You've completely given up. You gave it a go though! You certainly lasted longer than I thought you would.

The facts remain: Democrats constantly talk about how great it will be once whites become the minority in the USA because that will completely change the political landscape as mass immigration from developing/third world nations is overwhelmingly a mass importation of Democrat voters. They however would not support such a mass migration if it was a load of white Orthodox Russian Christians all flooding over the border, with these Russian Christians overwhelmingly voting Republican, and moving the Republican party further to the right. Nor would they support amnesty of a load of illegal Russian Christian immigrants, who they know will go on to vote Republican.

I have made my point crystal clear and you have not provided a single counter-argument why I'm wrong, instead just attempted deflections and irrelevant babble.

You say things like this "Democrats constantly talk about how great it will be once whites become the minority "

And I don't see anyone constantly talking about it.

Maybe some idiot say it on the internet and it hurts your feelings. Maybe some politician was quoted out of context. But it's just not true.

As a democrat, I'd rather the old people starting dying. They're the long time consistent Republican voters and they actually turn out to vote. We don't need to "import' voters, not that anyone is, they come because America is a great place to live and we keep the door open, the youth vote is more then enough as we just saw earlier this week.

Immigrants mostly can't vote and even when they can, they don't participate like older Republicans do.

 

[goldennirvana]

Yes, i forgot thats was the political platform of Democrats, white genocide.

I never mentioned "white genocide". Why are you putting words in my mouth? Oh, because you have no argument.

The left wants to create a socialist utopia, and they figure the only way they can do that is with mass immigration, as immigration from developing/third world nations is an importation of Democrat voters. Democrats literally talk about looking forward to the day whites become the minority in the USA and how much that will change the USA for the better.

Democrats kicked ass with young voters, they dont need to flood the country with immigrants.

Then why are they so supportive of mass immigration and amnesty? Because they know it means more votes for them.

In your mind, those young voters aren't the descendants of non-white immigrants who the left wanted in the country. /facepalm

Democrat ideas are so shit? seriously.

Look at the fucking mess that is a republican controlled government.

They cant pass any legislation and are using all the political capital they have into trying to cut taxes for the 0.1% while fucking everyone else in the ass and raising the deficit.

Some priceless Rod logic, as usual. You've somehow concluded because I said Democrats' ideas are so shit, that means I think Republicans are good at governing.

Republicans are a joke. So are Democrats.

 

[Rod1]

And? The USA & UK aren't very Christian either. Just because Mexicans (I said hispanics) are slightly more Christian than Americans and Britons, that really doesn't say much.

Mexico is the only hispanic country in that list.

Indians vote Democrat at a higher rate because Democrats have a perception of being more understanding of their needs, which I think is probably true. That's one group that Republicans could successfully go after though.

Jews vote Democrat at a higher rate because they support mass immigration, multiculturalism, feminism etc etc.

So jews vote Democrat because they are part of the (((conspiracy))), Latinos vote Democrat for handouts and Indians are the only truly legitimate Democrat bloc.

 

[goldennirvana]

No way bruh
Why isn't the left importing mass amounts of Russians, huh? Answer me that.
White. Genocide.
Irrefutable.

When did I mention "white genocide"? When you leftists respond like this, all it does is prove how clueless you are to the points being made. You have to literally put words in my mouth, because you can't form a logical counter-argument.

 

[Rod1]

The left wants to create a socialist utopia, and they figure the only way they can do that is with mass immigration, as immigration from developing/third world nations is an importation of Democrat voters. Democrats literally talk about looking forward to the day whites become the minority in the USA and how much that will change the USA for the better.

Socialism was invented by white people for white people.

If anyone gets to be pissed about socialisms is non-whites, but thats irrelevant, besides Venezuela and Nicaragua most latin countries have done a hard turn away from socialism, Mexico has consistently been economically to the right for a little more than 3 decades by now.

Then why are they so supportive of mass immigration and amnesty? Because they know it means more votes for them.

In your mind, those young voters aren't the descendants of non-white immigrants who the left wanted in the country. /facepalm

So the only reason to be pro-immigration is because of votes?

Some priceless Rod logic, as usual. You've somehow concluded because I said Democrats' ideas are so shit, that means I think Republicans are good at governing.

Republicans are a joke. So are Democrats.

You kind of do, because you are claiming that democrats against republicans because their ideas are shit.

 

[goldennirvana]

You say things like this "Democrats constantly talk about how great it will be once whites become the minority "

And I don't see anyone constantly talking about it.

You're either lying or you're not paying attention then.

Maybe some idiot say it on the internet and it hurts your feelings. Maybe some politician was quoted out of context. But it's just not true.

It's absolutely true. They long for the day whites become the minority because it will mean a total change in America's political landscape, making the Republican party irrelevant.

As a democrat, I'd rather the old people starting dying.

Thank you for showing your true colours.

We don't need to "import' voters

Then why is the left so in favour of mass immigration, and amnesty of illegals?

not that anyone is

The mass migration from developing/third world nations is an importation of Democrat voters, overwhelmingly. Democrats know this, which is why they're so in favour of it.

they come because America is a great place to live and we keep the door open

I thought America was a deeply racist, oppressive country with a 'system of white supremacy'?

the youth vote is more then enough as we just saw earlier this week.

Democrats want a total end to the Republican party as a political force and they can only achieve that with mass immigration.

Immigrants mostly can't vote and even when they can, they don't participate like older Republicans do.

We've gone over this. The Democrats are always so highly invested in trying to get immigrants to vote, because they know who they overwhelmingly vote for.

 

[goldennirvana]

Socialism was invented by white people for white people.

Oh look, another irrelevant comment by a leftist. Shocking.

If anyone gets to be pissed about socialisms is non-whites, but thats irrelevant, besides Venezuela and Nicaragua most latin countries have done a hard turn away from socialism, Mexico has consistently been economically to the right for a little more than 3 decades by now.

And yet Latin American countries are still almost entirely shit.

So the only reason to be pro-immigration is because of votes?

I'm sure there's other reasons for Democrats, but that's certainly the main one.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Some priceless Rod logic, as usual. You've somehow concluded because I said Democrats' ideas are so shit, that means I think Republicans are good at governing.

Republicans are a joke. So are Democrats.

You do realize this is a thread about an election where there were two choices Democrat and Republican in a state that doesn't have a real issue with immigration legal or otherwise right ?

 

[Rational Poster]

You're either lying or you're not paying attention then.



It's absolutely true. They long for the day whites become the minority because it will mean a total change in America's political landscape, making the Republican party irrelevant.



Thank you for showing your true colours.



Then why is the left so in favour of mass immigration, and amnesty of illegals?



The mass migration from developing/third world nations is an importation of Democrat voters, overwhelmingly. Democrats know this, which is why they're so in favour of it.



I thought America was a deeply racist, oppressive country with a 'system of white supremacy'?



Democrats want a total end to the Republican party as a political force and they can only achieve that with mass immigration.



We've gone over this. The Democrats are always so highly invested in trying to get immigrants to vote, because they know who they overwhelmingly vote for.

There is no mass immigration, no one is for mass immigration. We're for limited legal immigration using a fair system that treats all countries equally.

We're for amnesty because it's cheaper than forced deportations and illegal immigrants make a vital part of the economy.

We're in favor of allowing immigrants to come to this country like they have since it's founding because it's the American way and it's the right thing to do.

 

[goldennirvana]

You do realize this is a thread about an election where there were two choices Democrat and Republican in a state that doesn't have a real issue with immigration legal or otherwise right ?

We are talking about the USA (and the West as a whole), and how the left supports mass immigration from developing/third world nations into the USA/West because that will eventually completely extinguish their opposition.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

We are talking about the USA (and the West as a whole), and how the left supports mass immigration from developing/third world nations into the USA/West because that will eventually completely extinguish their opposition.

No only you are everyone else is telling you that you're out to lunch

 

[Rod1]

Oh look, another irrelevant comment by a leftist. Shocking.

Well, you keep saying that socialism cant happen until whites are replaced with non-whites while ignoring the fact that communism was invented in Europe and was spread around the world thanks to a white country and most communist leaders were educated in Europe.

And yet Latin American countries are still almost entirely shit.

The point? you are talking about the grand conspiracy to turn America communist.

I'm sure there's other reasons for Democrats, but that's certainly the main one.

White genocide.

 

[goldennirvana]

There is no mass immigration, no one is for mass immigration. We're for limited legal immigration using a fair system that treats all countries equally.

You clearly don't understand what 'mass immigration' is. Mass immigration is the migration of large amounts of people. The USA is taking in 675,000 legal immigrants, annually. That's mass immigration. You seem to be confusing 'mass immigration' with 'unlimited immigration'.

We're for amnesty because it's cheaper than forced deportations and illegal immigrants make a vital part of the economy.

You just said above you're for "limited legal immigration". Now you're saying you're for amnesty. That's called a contradiction. If you're for amnesty, you're for illegal immigration, and you're not for 'limited' immigration, either.

We're in favor of allowing immigrants to come to this country like they have since it's founding because it's the American way and it's the right thing to do.

Meaningless rhetoric.

Don't compare European immigrants moving to the USA 100-150 years ago to third world immigrants moving to the USA in the 21st century. They are in no way comparable.

 

[goldennirvana]

No only you are everyone else is telling you that you're out to lunch

I was just pointing out how the modern left are anti-democracy. They support mass third world immigration simply because it means more votes for them.