Trump doesn't want immigrants from s***hole countries

[HomerThompson]

I swear I'm not committing hyperbole here when I note that @Greoric logic would say that the ghetto-izing of Jews in Germany and Poland was not oppression. Is that not a fair statement?

Completely fair. He also thinks that slavery is cool because wage pressure will eventually swoop in and get them paid.

 

[Greoric]

I swear I'm not committing hyperbole here when I note that @Greoric logic would say that the ghetto-izing of Jews in Germany and Poland was not oppression. Is that not a fair statement?

It certainly is, but if Jews balkanized themselves, would they have been Jewish supremacists?

 

[HomerThompson]

Sure, we can say the same about terrorist attacks and gangland shootings. But reality should determine our level of fear, instead of our own projections. That has been precisely my argument throughout this thread.

The black person that was afraid of being lynched by a white man in the 50's, operated on the same mentality as a person afraid of being killed by a Muslim, because they've read about a case in the news. Or in @HomerThompson 's case, fear of white supremacy because somebody got ran over in Charlottesville. None of that fear is necessarily "rational". Statistically, you are far more likely to be endangered by many other, far more common "threats" to your self.

The reality is that a black person in the 50's was probably less threatened by violence than he is today. And no, the violence against them is not being committed by "white supremacists".

 

[HomerThompson]

Wow. You just lied again!

I said black children were better off in some ways. And when I said it I posted liberal studies showing such

HINT DUMMY. Look up incarceration rates now and fatherless families now. Also look at drug addiction and murder rates.

Shit dude. You just straight LIED again

 

[TheGreatA]

hey you said



i provided proof thats not entirely true

keep on talking but facts dont lie

Where's your proof that there were "many lynchings" going on in the 1950's? So far there is evidence of one black person being killed in a lynching the entire decade, Emmett Till.

 

[Limbo Pete]

I swear I'm not committing hyperbole here when I note that @Greoric logic would say that the ghetto-izing of Jews in Germany and Poland was not oppression. Is that not a fair statement?

No, because that was "state forced". But the Nazi's simply wanting to be separate from the jews in the first place was, by his definition, not a supremacist sentiment.
Am I doing it right?

 

[Fawlty]

Sure right now we are, and there are good reasons for that disparity (AAs having been enslaved, and a follow up oppressive environment for centuries is indeed a contributing factor). But if there's a movement for white people to buy up property to form their own communities, why would that intent for non-assimilation and non-interaction also be a . Penultimately, how could an intent of exclusionary interaction also be a domineering interaction?

Or hell, if we just have a group of white people that want to hang out with white people, why is a supremacist intent? Do you ascribe the same intent to people of other groups? Since you're homosexual, are you a homosexual supremacist if you prefer to assimilate mostly with other homosexuals?

Another easy one to answer, man. A subset of racial supremacist beliefs is various forms of segregation. It's not true to say that all segregation is necessarily supremacy or oppression- restrooms for instance- but that logic doesn't work going the other way.

 

[HomerThompson]

Wow. You just lied again!

I said black children were better off in some ways. And when I said it I posted liberal studies showing such

HINT DUMMY. Look up incarceration rates now and fatherless families now. Also look at drug addiction and murder rates.

Shit dude. You just straight LIED again

i cannot wait for this @HomerThompson

Who remembers what thread that was?

 

[HomerThompson]

Thanks?

I think.

I was pretending to be @Greoric. You're welcome.

 

[Greoric]

Completely fair. He also thinks that slavery is cool because wage pressure will eventually swoop in and get them paid.

Am I, or are you the one that's cool with Americans working half of the year to pay more in taxes than they spend on food and clothes?

 

[TheGreatA]

I swear I'm not committing hyperbole here when I note that @Greoric logic would say that the ghetto-izing of Jews in Germany and Poland was not oppression. Is that not a fair statement?

He already made the distinction between state-imposed segregation and willful separation.

Your hyperbole is only that, hyperbole, and a gross misrepresentation of his argument, because you can find no flaw in it.

 

[Fawlty]

It certainly is, but if Jews balkanized themselves, would they have been Jewish supremacists?

Israel is currently being run by mostly Jewish supremacists. Turns out they're segregating and oppressing a group of people...I wonder if there's a connection?

I wonder and wander and wanda.

 

[Jopious Extronimous]

The reality is that a black person in the 50's was probably less threatened by violence than he is today

....did I really just read this?

 

[HomerThompson]

Haiti is a shithole. why Is everyone mad about that? lol

Who did you used to be?

 

[Pupi]

"You'd have to be a raving lunatic as a black person in America in the 1950's to be afraid of being lynched!!!"
-@TheGreatA

"Black people were better off in the 1950's in America." -@SBJJ


Both of these clowns: "WAAAAHHHHHH, we're not racists!!!"

Being a white supremacist must be tough nowadays. They're clearly losing power, the world is more ethnically diverse and their population is dwindling, their people cope with their lose of power through massive amounts of substance abuse (especially alcohol and opiate addiction). Reality has not been kind to them and their ridiculous ideology LOL.

And they didn't happen as often because black people in the south learned that if they were uppity that they would be lynched.

Unfortunately Till was from the North and was visiting family in the South when he found this out.

Even now when a black person walks around a white neighborhood he/she will get stares and has higher chances of being harassed and discriminated against by cops or residents. I imagine that blacks would avoid predominantly white neighborhood during the 1860s-1960s like the plague.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Sure, we can say the same about terrorist attacks and gangland shootings. But reality should determine our level of fear, instead of our own projections. That has been precisely my argument throughout this thread.

The black person that was afraid of being lynched by a white man in the 50's, operated on the same mentality as a person afraid of being killed by a Muslim, because they've read about a case in the news. Or in @HomerThompson 's case, fear of white supremacy because somebody got ran over in Charlottesville. None of that fear is necessarily "rational". Statistically, you are far more likely to be endangered by many other, far more common "threats" to your self.

The reality is that a black person in the 50's was probably less threatened by violence than he is today. And no, the violence against them is not being committed by "white supremacists".

The difference is law enforcement cares about terrorists and gang violence and is actively trying to prevent it.

The man who did this in 1955

Those men were acquitted in in court.

During the trial when Black reporters and spectators were coming into court the Sherriff greeted them with "Hello s".

So yeah there weren't many lynchings because black people learned their place.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till#Trial

 

[Fawlty]

He already made the distinction between state-imposed segregation and willful separation.

Your hyperbole is only that, hyperbole, and a gross misrepresentation of his argument, because you can find no flaw in it.

It doesn't help him that he has to argue such a major exception out of his statement. It just shows his statement to be less correct and applicable to reality.

 

[HomerThompson]

Where's your proof that there were "many lynchings" going on in the 1950's? So far there is evidence of one black person being killed in a lynching the entire decade, Emmett Till.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2017/01/a-comprehensive-map-of-american-lynchings/513293/

That link is an interactive map, chronicling lynchings in the US.

 

[Rygu]

 

[TheGreatA]

It's a damn shame that being an intellectual dim-wit with no capacity to provide intellectual content outside of cheer-leading others, posting one-liners and gifs, somehow qualifies one for moderating this section of the forum. No wonder that the War Room is going to shit.