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I couldn't agree more and intend on teaching my daughter many of the lessons in those books. I'll have to check that book out!

If you have no understanding of empty human beings you have no chance of predicting their behaviours. Theres a lot of good books on psychopaths which are worth reading but this one hits home as its in a normal setting which enforces the point that only a very rare proportion of psycho's are killers but all are destructive monsters in their own way.

A lot of people and women in particular end up in destructive relationships whether friendship, business or lover. They try to find meaning or sense from their perspective but dont understand that their wants/needs/feelings mean absolutely nothing except at best a manipulation. Because they can't understand this they start to believe the fault is theirs.

While you don't want your daughter to see this side of life and live in fear education like these books may enable your daughter to evade or escape a very negative experience which is one part of good parenting.
 
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If you have no understanding of empty human beings you have no chance of predicting their behaviours. Theres a lot of good books on psychopaths which are worth reading but this one hits home as its in a normal setting which enforces the point that only a very rare proportion of psycho's are killers but all are destructive monsters in their own way.

A lot of people and women in particular end up in destructive relationships whether friendship, business or lover. They try to find meaning or sense from their perspective but dont understand that their wants/needs/feelings mean absolutely nothing except at best a manipulation. Because they can't understand this they start to believe the fault is theirs.

While you don't want your daughter to see this side of life and live in fear education like these books may enable your daughter to evade or escape a very negative experience which is one part of good parenting.
100%. Honesty is paramount, however uncomfortable it is. I find those books to have real world applicability. And I don't expect this to be a magic bullet, but I think there are important lessons taught in martial arts as well. I'm hoping my daughter get's into BJJ, but we'll see. She'll certainly get the lessons in these books and others.

I love that these books also teach you to use observation and the skills you're already equipped with so long as you're not fooling yourself. There isn't special training either. "I knew he was off and felt nervous, but he was a nice enough guy" is an example of a statement given by a woman who was assaulted or raped and if she had just listened to her "senses" she would have increased the odds of avoiding the situation all together. It's important to cut through the assumptions and societal expectations and listen to your gut.

It's great stuff and I think useful for everyone. Probably like yourself I just happen to also enjoy learning about it as well.
 
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Rome, it's rise, and fall, is still heavily politicised today. Parallels are drawn between Rome and our society as it exists today, and usually the fall of rome is invoked as to why we should or shouldn't adopt one policy or another. I think that knowledge of the basic facts of the roman empire what made it great, and what made it(s west) collapse is important in a prophylactic sense. You could make a similar argument about other heavily politicized regimes or empires: the third reich, or the soviet union to give other examples.

This book, for a history book, is the shit. It's popular history, so she's restricted in the depth with which she can address any topic. But it's well written, engaging and covers most of the points of view, historical, contemporary, and archaeological evidence of most of the events in the roman empire: from the regal period (the little that we know of it) to the demise of the western empire.

This book was fucking awesome. Perhaps the best part of it is the ''further reading'' section. There's an extensive list of other books that cover various periods discussed in the book (the book ends in 212 CE, with Caracalla). As well, there are links to archives of original source material, and tools such as stanford's orbis map, which actually provide time of travel estimates for the book.

http://orbis.stanford.edu/

The next roman references that I'll check out will be from Mary's list. Rome and the Mediterranean 290 to 146 BC: The Imperial Republic and The End of the Roman Republic 146 BC to 44 BC: conquest and crisis.

For now though I picked up a book on the russian revolution by China Miéville called October.

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I've only read the first chapter on the prelude to the revolution (ending in the assassination of Rasputin). It strikes me as a bit over written, but whatever. It's like a historically accurate ''telling'' of the Russian Revolution as a story, with each chapter (with the exception of the first) being a different month (starting in february and ending in october).
 
Canada in Decay by Richard Duchesne. Basically it is about how you can’t maintain a first world country with third world immigrants.
 
This book was fucking awesome. Perhaps the best part of it is the ''further reading'' section. There's an extensive list of other books that cover various periods discussed in the book (the book ends in 212 CE, with Caracalla). As well, there are links to archives of original source material, and tools such as stanford's orbis map, which actually provide time of travel estimates for the book.

http://orbis.stanford.edu/

The next roman references that I'll check out will be from Mary's list. Rome and the Mediterranean 290 to 146 BC: The Imperial Republic and The End of the Roman Republic 146 BC to 44 BC: conquest and crisis.

For now though I picked up a book on the russian revolution by China Miéville called October.

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I've only read the first chapter on the prelude to the revolution (ending in the assassination of Rasputin). It strikes me as a bit over written, but whatever. It's like a historically accurate ''telling'' of the Russian Revolution as a story, with each chapter (with the exception of the first) being a different month (starting in february and ending in october).

October was a laborious read. The writer really gets in the way of the story: specifically his choice to narrate the events as though it were a novel. It was a poor choice to cover a 9 month period where most of what happened was meetings between various plenums and assemblies and commissions and soviets and dumas and radas and provisional governments ad nauseum. At last, on page 315 we come to the fundamental question of the russian revolution: ''did October lead inexorably to Stalin?'' The statement of this question, and the citation of Victor Serge (listed in further reading) is probably the best part about this book. If I had to recommend a book on the Russian revolution I'd probably recommend a book that I have yet to read instead: The Russian Revolution, 1905-1921 by Mark D. Steinberg.

As a follow up I'll probably stick with Victor Serge for the time being.

For the meantime I'm switching gears a bit:

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It was in the sale section.
 
This book was fucking awesome. Perhaps the best part of it is the ''further reading'' section. There's an extensive list of other books that cover various periods discussed in the book (the book ends in 212 CE, with Caracalla). As well, there are links to archives of original source material, and tools such as stanford's orbis map, which actually provide time of travel estimates for the book.

http://orbis.stanford.edu/

The next roman references that I'll check out will be from Mary's list. Rome and the Mediterranean 290 to 146 BC: The Imperial Republic and The End of the Roman Republic 146 BC to 44 BC: conquest and crisis.

For now though I picked up a book on the russian revolution by China Miéville called October.

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I've only read the first chapter on the prelude to the revolution (ending in the assassination of Rasputin). It strikes me as a bit over written, but whatever. It's like a historically accurate ''telling'' of the Russian Revolution as a story, with each chapter (with the exception of the first) being a different month (starting in february and ending in october).

Have you read any of Mieville's fiction?
 
Written by a former speech writer for George W Bush. For those that think vegetarianism and animal rights is just some wimpy lefty fad.

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I like hearing or reading arguments for a certain stance on a certain issue that is often associated with one side of the political spectrum but from the opposite end. I don't think I care enough about animal rights to read it though, could you give us some cliffs or relate your favorite parts of the book?
 
Nope. Any good?

I like a lot of it, but I wondered what exactly you meant by "over written"? Mieville's unabashedly ideological and even his children's books could be labelled pretentious. He employs a lot of literary technique and experimentation.
The books of his I don't like (Iron Council) mostly suffered from too much ideology and not enough world building, character creation and story telling.
Mostly Mieville writes science fiction and "weird fiction". Perdido Street Station is a classic.

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I also read through his "Scifi for Socialists" reading list.

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This is not a list of the “best” fantasy or SF. There are huge numbers of superb works not on the list. Those below are chosen not just because of their quality—which though mostly good, is variable—but because the politics they embed (deliberately or not) are of particular interest to socialists. Of course, other works—by the same or other writers—could have been chosen: disagreement and alternative suggestions are welcomed. I change my own mind hour to hour on this anyway.

Iain M. Banks—Use of Weapons (1990)
Socialist SF discussing a post-scarcity society. The Culture are “goodies” in narrative and political terms, but here issues of cross-cultural guilt and manipulation complicate the story from being a simplistic utopia.

Edward Bellamy—Looking Backward, 2000–1887 (1888)
A hugely influential, rather bureaucratic egalitarian/naïve communist utopia. Deals very well with the confusion of the “modern” (19th Century) protagonist in a world he hasn’t helped create (see Bogdanov).

Alexander Bogdanov—The Red Star: A Utopia (1908; trans. 1984)
This Bolshevik SF sends a revolutionary to socialist Mars. The book’s been criticized (with some justification) for being proto-Stalinist, but overall it’s been maligned. Deals well with the problem faced by someone trying to adjust to a new society s/he hasn’t helped create (see Bellamy).

Emma Bull & Steven Brust—Freedom & Necessity (1997)
Bull is a left-liberal and Brust is a Trotskyist fantasy writer.F&Nis set in the 19th Century of the Chartists and class turmoil. It’s been described as “the first Marxist steampunk” or “a fantasy for Young Hegelians.”

Mikhail Bulgakov—The Master and Margarita (1938; trans. 1967)
Astonishing fantasy set in ’30s Moscow, featuring the Devil, Pontius Pilate, The Wandering Jew, and a satire and critique of Stalinist Russia so cutting it is unbelievable that it got past the censors. Utterly brilliant.

Katherine Burdekin (aka “Murray Constantine”)—Swastika Night (1937)
An excellent example of the “Hitler Wins” sub-genre of SF. It’s unusual in that it was published by the Left Book Club and it was written while Hitler was in power, so the fear of Nazi future was immediate.

Octavia Butler—Survivor (1978)
Black American writer, now discovered by the mainstream after years of acclaim in the SF field.Kindredis her most overtly political novel, the Patternmaster series the most popular. Survivor brilliantly blends genre SF with issues of colonialism and racism.

Julio Cortázar—“House Taken Over” (1963?)
A terrifying short story undermining the notion of the house as sanctity and refuge. A subtle destruction of the bourgeois oppositions between public/private and inside/outside.

Philip K. Dick—A Scanner Darkly (1977)
Could have picked almost any of his books. Like all of them, this deals with identity, power, and betrayal, here tied in more directly to social structures than in some other works (though see Counter-Clock World and The Man in the High Castle). Incredibly moving.

Thomas Disch—The Priest (1994)
Utterly savage work of anti-clericalism. A work of dark fantasy GBH against the Catholic Church (dedicated, among others, to the Pope…)

Gordon Eklund—All Times Possible(1974)
Study of alternative worlds, including an examination of hypothetical Left-wing movements in alternative USAs.

Max Ernst—Une Semaine de Bonté (1934)
The definitive Surrealist collage novel. A succession of images the reader is involved in decoding. A Whodunwhat, with characters from polite commercial catalogues engaged in a story of little deaths and high adventure.

Claude Farrère—Useless Hands (1920; trans. 1926)
Bleak Social Darwinism, and a prototype of “farewell to the working class” arguments. The “useless hands”—workers—revolt is seen as pathetic before inexorable technology. A cold, reactionary, interesting book.

Anatole France—The White Stone (1905; trans. 1910)
In part, a rebuttal to the racist “yellow peril” fever of the time—a book about “white peril” and the rise of socialism. Also interesting isThe Revolt of the Angels, which examines now well-worn socialist theme of Lucifer being in the right, rebelling against the despotic God.

Jane Gaskell—Strange Evil(1957)
Written when Gaskell was 14, with the flaws that entails. Still, however, extraordinary. A savage fairytale, with fraught sexuality, meditations on Tom Paine and Marx, revolutionary upheaval depicted sympathetically, but without sentimentality; plus the most disturbing baddy in fiction.

Mary Gentle—Rats and Gargoyles (1990)
Set in a city that undermines the “feudalism lite” of most genre fantasy. An untypical female protagonist has adventures in a cityscape complete with class struggle, corruption, and racial oppression.

Charlotte Perkins Gilman—“The Yellow Wallpaper” (1892)
Towering work by this radical thinker. Terrifying short story showing how savage gender oppression can inhere in “caring” relationships just as easily as in more obviously abusive ones. See also her feminist/socialistic utopias “Moving the Mountain” (1911) andHerland(1914).

Lisa Goldstein—The Dream Years (1985)
A time-slip oscillating between Paris in the 1920s, during the Surrealist movement, and in 1968, during the Uprising. Uses a popular fantastic mode to examine the relation between Surrealism as the fantastic mode par excellence and revolutionary movements (if nebulously conceived).

Stefan Grabiński—The Dark Domain (1918–22; trans. and collected 1993)
Brilliant horror by this Polish writer. Unusually locates the uncanny and threatening within the very symbols of a modernizing industrialism in Poland: trains, electricity, etc. This awareness of the instability of the everyday marks him out from traditional, “nostalgic” ghost story writers.

George Griffith—The Angel of Revolution (1893)
Rather dated, but unusual in that its heroes are revolutionary terrorists. Very different from the devious anarchist villains of (e.g.) Chesterton.

Imil Habibi—The Secret Life of Saeed the Pessoptimist (1974; trans. 1982)
The full title is much longer. Habiby was a member of the Palestinian Community Party, a veteran of the anti-British struggle of the 40s, and a member of the Knesset for several years. This amiable, surreal book is about the life of a Palestinian in Israel (with surreal bits, and aliens).

M. John Harrison—Viriconium Nights (1984)
A stunning writer, who expresses the alienation of the modern everyday with terrible force. Fantasy that mercilessly uncovers the alienated nature of the longing for fantastic escape, and show how that fantasy will always remain out of reach. Punishes his readers and characters for their involvement with fantasy. See alsoThe Course of the Heart.

Ursula K. Le Guin—The Dispossessed: An Ambiguous Utopia (1974)
The most overtly political of this anarchist writer’s excellent works. An examination of the relations between a rich, exploitive capitalist world and a poor, nearly barren (though high-tech) communist one.

Jack London—Iron Heel (1907)
London’s masterpiece: scholars from a 27th Century socialist world find documents depicting a fascist oligarchy in the US and the revolt of the proletariat. Elsewhere, London’s undoubted socialism is undermined by the most appalling racism.

Ken MacLeod—The Star Fraction (1996)
British Trotskyist (of strongly libertarian bent), all of whose (very good) works examine Left politics without sloganeering. The Stone Canal, for example, features arguments about distortions of Marxism. However, The Star Fraction is chosen here as it features Virtual Reality heroes of the left, by name—a roll call of genuine revolutionaries recast in digital form.

Gregory Maguire—Wicked (1995)
Brilliant revisionist fantasy about how the winners write history. The loser whose side is here taken is the Wicked Witch of the West, a fighter for emancipatory politics in the despotic empire of Oz.

J. Leslie Mitchell (Lewis Grassic Gibbon)—Gay Hunter(1934, reissued 1989)
By the Marxist writer of the classic work of vernacular Scots literatureA Scots Quair, andSpartacus, the novel that proves that propaganda can be art. This is great science fiction. Bit dewy-eyed about hunter-gatherers perhaps, but superb nonetheless. As an added bonus, it also has a title that sounds amusing today. Check out his short fiction, which includes a lot of SF/Fantasy work.

Michael Moorcock—Hawkmoon (1967–77, reprinted in one edition 1992)
Moorcock is an erudite Left-anarchist and a giant of fantasy literature. Almost everything he’s written is of interest, but Hawkmoon is chosen here in honor of Moorcock having said about it: “In a spirit consciously at odds with the jingoism of the day, I chose a German for a hero and the British for villains.” There are also plenty of satirical references and gags about 1960s/70s politics for the reader to decode.

William Morris—News From Nowhere (1888)
A socialist (though naively pastoral) utopia, written in response to Bellamy (above), that unusually doesn’t shy away from the hard political question of how we get the desired utopia-proletarian revolution. See alsoThe Well at the World’s Endand his other fantasies.

Toni Morrison—Beloved (1987)
It’s well known thatBelovedis a superb book about race and slavery and guilt, but it’s less generally accepted that it’s a fantasy. It is. It’s a ghost story that wouldn’t have half the charge without the fantastic element.

Mervyn Peake—The Gormenghast Novels (1946–59)
An austere depiction of dead ritualism and necessary transformation. Don’t believe those who say that the third book is disappointing.

Marge Piercy—Woman on the Edge of Time (1976)
A Chicano woman trapped in an asylum makes contact with a messenger from a future utopia, born after a “full feminist revolution”.

Philip Pullman—Northern Lights (1995)
Pullman let us down. This book is here because it deals with moral/political complexities with unsentimental respect for its (young adult) readers and characters. Explores freedom and social agency, and the question of using ugly means for emanicipatory ends. It raises the biggest possible questions, and doesn’t patronise us that there are easy answers. The second in the trilogy,The Subtle Knife, is a perfectly good bridging volume… and then in book three,The Amber Spyglass, something goes wrong. It has excellent bits, it is streets ahead of its competition… but there’s sentimentality, a hesitation, a formalism, which lets us down. Ah well.Northern Lightsis still a masterpiece.

Ayn Rand—Atlas Shrugged (1957)
Know your enemy. This panoply of portentous Nietzcheanism lite has had a huge influence on American SF. Rand was an obsessive “objectivist” (libertarian pro-capitalist individualist) whose hatred of socialism and any form of “collectivism” is visible in this important an influential—though vile and ponderous—novel.

Mack Reynolds—Lagrange Five (1979)
Reynolds was, for 25 years, an activist for the U.S. Socialist Labor Party. His radical perspective on political issues is reflected throughout his work. This book—examining a quasi-utopia without sentimentalism—is only one suggestion. Also of huge interest are Tomorrow Might Be Different (1960) and The Rival Rigelians (1960), which explicitly examine the relation between capitalism and Stalinism.

Keith Roberts—Pavane (1968)
These linked stories take place in a present day where Elizabeth I was assassinated and Spain took over Britain. This examines life in a world where a militant feudal Catholicism acts as a fetter on social and productive functions. Though Roberts was no lefty at all, and you could probably power France on the energy from his spinning grave at being included in this list.

Kim Stanley Robinson—The Mars Trilogy (1992–96)
Probably the most powerful center of gravity for Leftist SF in the 1990s. A sprawling and thoughtful examination of the variety of social relations feeding into and leading up to revolutionary change. (It’s also got some Gramsci jokes in it.)

Mary Shelley—Frankenstein, or the Modern Prometheus (1818)
Not a warning “not to mess with things that should be let alone” (which would be a reactionary anti-rationalist message) but an insistence on the necessity of grappling with forces one unleashes and the fact that there is no “innate” nature to people, but a socially-constructed one.

Lucius Shepard—Life During Wartime (1987)
Horrific vision of a future (thinly disguised Vietnam) war. Within the savage examinations of the truth of war and U.S. foreign policy, Shepard also investigates the relation between SF, fantasy, and “magic realism”, and uses their shared mode to look back at reality with passion.

Norman Spinrad—The Iron Dream (1972)
A SF novel by Adolf Hitler… Spinrad’s funny, disturbing and savage indictment of the fascist aesthetics in much genre SF and fantasy. What if Hitler had become a pulp SF writer in New York? Not a book about that possibility but a book from it. “By the same author: Triumph of the Will and Lord of the Swastika.” Brave and nasty.

Eugene Sue—The Wandering Jew (1845)
Huge book by radical socialist Sue, about the adventures of the family of the Wandering Jew of legend. Symbolic fantasy elements: the Jew is the dispossessed laborer and his partner is downtrodden woman. Marx hated Sue as a writer (not without reason—less, for Sue, is not in more) but hell, it’s an important book.

Michael Swanwick—The Iron Dragon’s Daughter (1993)
Great work that completely destroys the sentimental aspects of genre fantasy. From within the genre—fairies, elves, and all—Swanwick examines the industrial revolution, the Vietnam War, racism and sexism, and the escapist dreams of genre fantasy. A truly great anti-fantasy.

Jonathan Swift—Gulliver’s Travels (1726)
Savage attack on hypocrisy and cant that never dilutes its fantasy with its satire: the two elements feed off each other perfectly.

Alexei Tolstoy—Aelita (1922; trans. 1957)
Distant relative of the other Tolstoy. The “revised” version is less good, written in the stern environment of Stalinism. A Red Army officer goes to Mars and foments a rebellion of native Martians. Good rousing stuff, but also interesting in terms of “exporting” revolution. See also the superb avant-garde film version from 1924.

Ian Watson—Slow Birds (1985)
Left-wing author whose short story collection above includes a cold demolition of Thatcher and Thatcherism. His take on oppression—cognitive and political—informs all his rather austere, cerebral writing.

H.G. Wells—The Island of Dr Moreau (1896)
Like a lot of Wells’s work, this is an uneasy mixture of progressive and reactionary notions. It makes for one of the great horror stories of all time. A fraught examination of colonialism, science, eugenics, repression, and religion: a kind of fantasy echo of Shakespeare’sThe Tempest.

E. L. White—“Lukundoo” (1927)
One of the most utterly extraordinary (and almost certainly unconscious) expressions of colonial anxiety and guilt in the history of literature.

Oscar Wilde—The Happy Prince and Other Stories (1888)
Children’s fantasies by this romantic, socialist author. Marked by a sharp lack of sentimentality, a deeply subversive cynicism, which doesn’t blunt their ability to be intensely moving.

Gene Wolfe—The Fifth Head of Cerberus (1972)
Wolfe is a religious Republican, but his tragico-Catholic perspective leads to a deeply unglamorized and unsanitized awareness of social reality. This book is a very sad and extremely dense, complex meditation on colonialism, identity and oppression.

Yevgeny Zamyatin—We (1920; trans. 1924)
A Bolshevik, who earned semi-official unease in the USSR even in the early 1920s, with this unsettling dystopian view of absolute totalitarianism. These days often retrospectively, ahistorically, and misleadingly judged to be a critique of Stalinism.
 
I like a lot of it, but I wondered what exactly you meant by "over written"? Mieville's unabashedly ideological and even his children's books could be labelled pretentious. He employs a lot of literary technique and experimentation.
The books of his I don't like (Iron Council) mostly suffered from too much ideology and not enough world building, character creation and story telling.
Mostly Mieville writes science fiction and "weird fiction". Perdido Street Station is a classic.

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I also read through his "Scifi for Socialists" reading list.

Pretentious would be a good way to translate my criticism that this book is ''over written.'' Quite often key moments are written to provoke introspection instead of instruct the reader of what happened and its significance. Sometimes it works rather well. Sometimes it just frustrates the reader. And this happens throughout the book, even through, as I said, dull and dry meetings of committies and assemblies of soldiers peasants proletarians etc etc etc. ad nauseam. I think a couple of the months could have actually been more or less omitted, and the space used to examine more significant events, or in depth discussion of the arguments of key players.

Also, that list of books is so long that I had to edit it out just to post this message.
 
Also, that list of books is so long that I had to edit it out just to post this message.

Yeah, I think I broke something. It won't even let me edit my own post.
It's only 50 books though.
 
What made you pick these ones?

im a big fan of the history of the gun powder empires Mughals, Safavids, Ottomans and Islamic history in general.

For Ottoman age of exploration,

Often we are presented of the European colonizer simply waltzing into places having their way but its not really the case in the early colonial times. The Portugese for example faced defeats and rivalries with the Ottomans who had set up trade network that went all the way to South East Asia. There are some great stories there like for example the Ottomans sent multiple expeditions to Aceh (Indonesia) to supply them with ships, canons etc and these expeditions greatly hampered Portugal from monopolizing trade in the region. It all goes to challenge the notion that the age of exploration was simply European. Although the new world was dominated by Europe, Africa and Asia was able to compete for a long time until the decline of the Mughal and Ottoman empires.

For God's Crucible,

Something that is often overlooked is Islam's influence on dark age Europe and the Medieval period, from conquests to science and philosophy which laid the seeds for the renaissance. It also examines how these largely successful muslim societies were destroyed by foreign invasions and also local leaders who began to embrace religious fundamentalism which ended up weakening their countries whose strength and prosperity had been built on the opposite.
 
It is even worse than you think David Kay Johnson.

If you actually care about how bad the Trump administration really is.
 
I can't really take anyone serious who thinks that Trump didn't want to win the election. If that were his intention, it would have been very easy to accomplish.

I think he wanted to win the Presidency he just doesn't want to be president. lol. He likes to battle and this was a challenge. Like Mt Everest or something. Ok, I made it. Time to go back down. He wanted to climb Everest and he did.

Being President must suck. Boring. Demanding. Can't do anything. So much spotlight. Not even worth it to me. I wouldnt take the job if you handed it to me. Ok, maybe I would but I would probably quit soon. I know politicians are shady and shit but they gotta do a lot of work. Tons of reading and research. Like imagine sitting on the banking or finance committee. Whatever it is called. Or military. Reading through this legislation and other things is huge. I know they have assistants but still.

I talked about how I liked how Barbara Boxer and Carl Levin grilled the bankers during the last crisis. They did their homework and pinned them to the wall.
 
im a big fan of the history of the gun powder empires Mughals, Safavids, Ottomans and Islamic history in general.

For Ottoman age of exploration,

Often we are presented of the European colonizer simply waltzing into places having their way but its not really the case in the early colonial times. The Portugese for example faced defeats and rivalries with the Ottomans who had set up trade network that went all the way to South East Asia. There are some great stories there like for example the Ottomans sent multiple expeditions to Aceh (Indonesia) to supply them with ships, canons etc and these expeditions greatly hampered Portugal from monopolizing trade in the region. It all goes to challenge the notion that the age of exploration was simply European. Although the new world was dominated by Europe, Africa and Asia was able to compete for a long time until the decline of the Mughal and Ottoman empires.

For God's Crucible,

Something that is often overlooked is Islam's influence on dark age Europe and the Medieval period, from conquests to science and philosophy which laid the seeds for the renaissance. It also examines how these largely successful muslim societies were destroyed by foreign invasions and also local leaders who began to embrace religious fundamentalism which ended up weakening their countries whose strength and prosperity had been built on the opposite.

Yeah, Magellan used to fight Muslims in the mideast on the daily before his trip around the world. He had an injury he carried his whole life from it.

Over the Edge of the World: Magellan's Terrifying Circumnavigation of the Globe

great book imo. Magellan went on an ass kicking world tour and went down like Custer. Such hubris.
 
Canada in Decay by Richard Duchesne. Basically it is about how you can’t maintain a first world country with third world immigrants.

I just looked up the author on YouTube. I am going to check out the book.


 
I have been listeing to audiobooks recently. I Robot by Asimov. Brilliant. Shows the limits of logic and humans. This robot tries to deal with the contradictions that are humans and shorts out. lol. It puts him in a comatose. The first rule of robotics is don't hurt humans and don't let them be hurt. So the robot tells lies. Like he tells a woman that some guy likes her. This cheers her up. That is why he did it. She likes him. He knows that cuz he can read minds. And says he can't answer a math problem because the mathematician really doesn't want him to cuz it would hurt his pride. He is like, "That is not what you really want. You say you want me to answer but you don't really." And these contradictions by humans made his fuckin head explode. lol.
 
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