Why people are so excited about Israel after yesterday??

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I don't understand. He is a great fighter, but he is not AMAZING, and he won't even keep his belt for long.

He almost got knocked the fuck out by a fat welterweight( I am not trashing Kelvin, just saying he is short for the division) who is much shorter than him ( Kelvin was so stupid for trying the takedown when Israel was rocked).

Do you guys remember really great fighters when they were rising to number 1 contender and becoming champion for a while ? Anderson, Jones, DC, GSP, etc.. they were wrecking the competion while getting minimal damage, and making it look easy.

Israel's face yesterday was all busted up, and he just fought the number 4 contender.

He is great, but the next Anderson ? Lol, give me a break. He won't get past Romero, Whittaker and maybe Borrachinha. It would take one shot from Borrachinha for Israel to crumble, and yesterday he shows how hittable he is.
 
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DaviVasco said:
Do you guys remember really great fighters when they were rising to number 1 contender and becoming champion for a while ? Anderson, Jones, DC, GSP, etc.. they were wrecking the competion while getting minimal damage, and making it look easy.
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Anderson was getting heel hooked in Japan when he was 29. He did get better eventually, however.

To answer your question, people are excited about him because he's exciting to watch and the fight was great. Not many people claiming he's the GOAT or anything, just that he has potential, which is true.
 
He looks like he is still evolving and so far, has always found a way to win, TS.

Is normal.
 
I'm wondering the same about Gastelum. A ton of people on here were saying he was going to flatline him.
 
He faced one of the toughest fighters in the Div with some of the heaviest hands.

And you think he did poorly?

You sir are an idiot.
 
Lyesmith said:
Anderson was getting heel hooked in Japan when he was 29. He did get better eventually, however.

To answer your question, people are excited about him because he's exciting to watch and the fight was great. Not many people claiming he's the GOAT or anything, just that he has potential, which is true.
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he is the GOAT
 
I just want to see Israel tested against a real Middleweight wrestler like Weidman, Jacare or Romero. It's amazing they managed to have him avoid these 3 opponents. Hell, even the likes of Branch, Hermannson and Rockhold would give him trouble I believe.
 
DaviVasco said:
I don't understand. He is a great fighter, but he is not AMAZING, and he won't even keep his belt for long.

He almost got knocked the fuck out by a fat welterweight, who is much shorter than him ( Kelvin was so stupid for trying the takedown when Israel was rocked).

Do you guys remember really great fighters when they were rising to number 1 contender and becoming champion for a while ? Anderson, Jones, DC, GSP, etc.. they were wrecking the competion while getting minimal damage, and making it look easy.

Israel's face yesterday was all busted up, and he just fought the number 4 contender.

He is great, but the next Anderson ? Lol, give me a break. He won't get past Romero, Whittaker and maybe Borrachinha. It would take one shot from Borrachinha for Israel to crumble, and yesterday he shows how hittable he is.
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now we know he is a dog
 
DaviVasco said:
I don't understand. He is a great fighter, but he is not AMAZING, and he won't even keep his belt for long.

He almost got knocked the fuck out by a fat welterweight, who is much shorter than him ( Kelvin was so stupid for trying the takedown when Israel was rocked).

Do you guys remember really great fighters when they were rising to number 1 contender and becoming champion for a while ? Anderson, Jones, DC, GSP, etc.. they were wrecking the competion while getting minimal damage, and making it look easy.

Israel's face yesterday was all busted up, and he just fought the number 4 contender.

He is great, but the next Anderson ? Lol, give me a break. He won't get past Romero, Whittaker and maybe Borrachinha. It would take one shot from Borrachinha for Israel to crumble, and yesterday he shows how hittable he is.
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I'm excited because he got exposed on a much bigger stage than when he eeked out a decision over Vettori.
 
Almost knocked out and rocked are different things. He didn't get knocked out and hurt Gastelum way worse than Gastelum hurt him. Pretty funny thread considering all the people saying Gastelum would KO him before the fight. Adesanya was supposed to be overrated and get ko'd by Gastelum and and after he beats Gastelum, Suddenly Gastelum is a fat welterweight and getting hurt by him is embarassing...
 
FlyingDeathKick said:
Almost knocked out and rocked are different things. He didn't get knocked out and hurt Gastelum way worse than Gastelum hurt him. Pretty funny thread considering all the people saying Gastelum would KO him before the fight. Adesanya was supposed to be overrated and get ko'd by Gastelum and and after he beats Gastelum, Suddenly Gastelum is a fat welterweight and getting hurt by him is embarassing...
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classic sherdog
 
ChaelSonnen said:
I just want to see Israel tested against a real Middleweight wrestler like Weidman, Jacare or Romero. It's amazing they managed to have him avoid these 3 opponents. Hell, even the likes of Branch, Hermannson and Rockhold would give him trouble I believe.
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I feel though that Israel never gets the credit he deserves. When he beat Silva, an absolute legend who is, of course, at the latter stage of his career but is certainly no easy out like some other legends were toward the end, there was a lot of, "He should have knocked Silva out." It wasn't- he looked solid and didn't get baited into a bad spot against someone as crafty as Silva- it was, he should have knocked Silva out- as if everybody has been doing that.

He fought very well against one of the division's most dangerous boxers in Gastelum. He showed the ability to gut through adversity, mental toughness, and a championship mentality where he, knowing it was 2-2 going into the 5th, poured it on and left no doubt that he had won that round and thus the fight. But it's easy to now construe Gastelum as "not a true middleweight," and "short, fat fighter" as if Gast wasn't going tooth and nail against a legend in Jacare and nearly knocking Weidman out before succumbing to his grappling.

I think it's all good- he's set to fight a terrific fighter in Whittaker next and there are no easy fights at the top of the 85 division.

Also, I bet if Israel had been matched up against either Weidman or Jacare and won, there would be people saying Weidman is done at a high level and Jacare is past his prime.
 
Why complain about either guy after such a great fight?
 
DaviVasco said:
He almost got knocked the fuck out by a fat welterweight, who is much shorter than him.
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Just shut up with this bullshit already. Gastelum is an amazing fighter who closes distance very well and possesses blazing hand speed. He can catch pretty much everyone with his one-two, and when he does it's usually lights out.

I'm so fucking tired of this sort of shit. Gastelum has always had a huge gastank. He didn't win this one, but the fifth round was a result of all the damage he took during the fight, not that he was in bad shape beforehand. Moron. :rolleyes:

I don't want to be one of those people who cusses out strangers online, but god damn it, some people are just too stupid. Stop shitting on the best fighters in the world, and do something useful with your own life instead of this BS!
 
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