Economy 12 Years and $34 Billion Later, Canada's Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion Is Set To Complete.

[Deleted member 263856]

Do hypocritical BC tree-huggers count as "foreign interests"? Listen to them talk and it certainly sounds like they don't give a damn about their fellow Canadians. Or may be that's just Canada's usual attitude towards their Albertan ATM.

As for the solution to the stalled TMX, I think accepting the First Nation's bid to buy into the project would shut a lot of mouths up.


First Nations group plans $6.8B bid for majority stake in Trans Mountain
April Fong, BNN Bloomberg | March 28, 2019

A First Nations consortium is planning to offer about $6.8 billion to buy a 51 per cent stake in the Trans Mountain pipeline, which the federal government purchased last year from Kinder Morgan Canada.

Delbert Wapass, former chief of Thunderchild First Nation and current vice-chairman of the Indian Resource Council, is leading the effort as executive chairman of a group called Project Reconciliation.

The planned bid by Wapass’ group was first reported by The Globe and Mail.

Wapass told BNN Bloomberg that Project Reconciliation has met with investment banks and held a number of informal talks with government officials, adding that the group is within "striking distance" of making a formal bid.

“We’re very close. If there was an announcement tomorrow or next week [by the federal government], we’d be ready. We’ve done a lot of work,” Wapass said in an interview with BNN Bloomberg’s Catherine Murray Thursday.

He added that preliminary discussions with government officials – including the Deputy Minister of Finance – have been met with optimism.

“They see the situation. They see the need of First Nations people standing up and trying to do something that is going to benefit all people – not only First Nations, but Canadians as a whole,” Wapass said.

The group has already begun inviting First Nations groups in Saskatchewan, Alberta and B.C. to become partners in its bid for Trans Mountain. Wapass said that while the response has so far been positive, he acknowledges that there will be opposition from some communities.

“We expect that those First Nations that don’t want to get involved [with Trans Mountain] are going to be very adamant about staying out of their territory,” he said. “Once we’re given the opportunity to share what we’re all about, what we’re going to be doing, the decision is theirs."

“We’re not there to dictate nor are we there to push ourselves on anybody.”

The Canadian government bought the controversial Trans Mountain pipeline and related assets for $4.5 billion last summer, after Kinder Morgan threatened to abandon its expansion project because of persistent delays. The Trudeau government has pledged to get the expansion built – which would roughly triple the capacity of the existing pipeline – and has said it will not be a long-term owner of the pipeline.

Finance Minister Bill Morneau said previously that the government will not negotiate the sale of Trans Mountain until after construction of its controversial proposed expansion is “de-risked.”

Court-ordered consultations with affected Indigenous groups are expected to wrap up in May, allowing the expansion to go to Ottawa for a decision on approval.

In a statement earlier this week, Morneau said if the expansion project gets the go-ahead, the government would be "committed to exploring the possibility of Indigenous economic participation."

Wapass indicated that while the group is estimating it will pay $6.8 billion, it would be willing to increase that price for a majority stake in the pipeline.

“We want to demonstrate that we’re open for business and we know how to do business as First Nations people. And being stewards of the land we’ll demonstrate we know how to bring the balance that’s required to be a successful business,” Wapass said.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/first-n...or-majority-stake-in-trans-mountain-1.1236418

A lot of British Columbians (mainly Vancouver metro) tend to think of British Columbia as its own country. Because Vancouver is the only major city in the province Vauncouverites tend to think that only they matter and the rest of BC is just whatever. Kinda like people from LA think that they're represent all of California and can't believe the rest of the US doesn't think the same way they do.

 

[Arkain2K]

I believe First Nations participation could deescalate the situation, since the BC and Albertan politicians are playing a game brinksmanship that have spirralled out of their countrol.

They can't back down now, after all the belligerent rhetoric showcased to their electorate and Green allies.

Alberta's 'turn-off-taps' law makes gas price jumps and shortages real in B.C
BY THE CANADIAN PRESS | MAY 3, 2019

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Get ready for higher gasoline prices and shortages in British Columbia and a supply surplus on the Prairies if Alberta Premier Jason Kenney uses a newly proclaimed law to restrict fuel exports to its western neighbour, say industry experts and court documents.

“The one wild card factor that we really can’t predict is the political factor: would, in fact, the Alberta government actually put in effect, in practice, the curtailment of gasoline and diesel shipments from Alberta to the West Coast,” Michael Ervin, Kent Group Ltd., senior vice-president, said Thursday.

The Preserving Canada’s Economic Prosperity Act, the so-called turn-off-the taps law, was passed by the former Alberta government a year ago. Kenney’s United Conservatives proclaimed it as law this week and the threat to put the squeeze on B.C. is real, said Ervin, a petroleum market expert.

“The possibility of that certainly changed, increased since Premier Kenney has been elected into office,” he said in a telephone interview from Sidney, B.C.

Ervin said he expected gasoline prices in B.C. to jump by at least 10 cents per litre if Alberta started restricting fuel supplies. He said oil companies in Alberta may also feel the pinch because their B.C. customers will be cut off, creating a surplus there.

The B.C. government immediately moved to have Alberta’s law declared unconstitutional with a legal challenge, claiming “the central purpose and legal effect of the act is to authorize and provide for discrimination against British Columbia in relation to exports of natural gas, crude oil and refined fuels.”

An initial hearing is set for May 7 in Calgary.

https://vancouversun.com/business/e...-makes-gas-price-jumps-and-shortages-real/amp

 

[Arkain2K]

Prime Minister called out in B.C.-Alberta gas fight that hit the courts Wednesday
BY KEITH FRASER, MATT ROBINSON

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B.C. Premier John Horgan called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Wednesday to pump more refined fuel through the Trans Mountain Pipeline, hours after his lawyers filed a legal challenge to Alberta’s freshly enacted “turn off the taps” legislation.

Horgan told reporters he hoped to speak to Trudeau by the end of the day “about what the new owners of that pipeline can do about relieving pressure here in the Lower Mainland.

“I can’t rationalize the outrageous spike in prices here relative to other jurisdictions, beyond what I’ve said several times — a lack of supply.”

The price for a litre of regular unleaded gasoline hovered just shy of $1.70 at many stations in Vancouver at midday Wednesday. Horgan said his message to worried drivers is that he was worried too.

He said he was taking steps to work with “the owners of the pipeline, the federal government,” to try to reduce the export of bitumen through the pipeline and increase the volume of refined product.

Asked whether that would change his position on the proposed pipeline expansion, Horgan responded that the use of Burrard Inlet as “an export terminus exclusively” is not in the interest of B.C. “I think there is an opportunity for the three governments to find a way forward. But there is a lot of work to do and what we’re focused on right now is the unacceptably high retail price of gasoline in the Lower Mainland.”

The Prime Minister’s Office passed the opportunity to comment to Alexandre Deslongchamps, the director of communications for the minister of Natural Resources Canada. “Our government will continue working with our provincial counterparts to ensure a secure, reliable and affordable supply of energy for all Canadians, and support the good, middle-class jobs our energy sector creates,” he said.

Trudeau is slated to meet with Alberta Premier Jason Kenney on Parliament Hill on Wednesday.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local...es-albertas-turn-off-the-taps-legislation/amp

 

[MikeMcMann]

I believe First Nations participation could deescalate the situation, since the BC and Albertan politicians are playing a game brinksmanship that have spirralled out of their countrol.

They can't back down now, after all the belligerent rhetoric showcased to their electorate and Green allies.


Alberta's 'turn-off-taps' law makes gas price jumps and shortages real in B.C
BY THE CANADIAN PRESS | MAY 3, 2019



Get ready for higher gasoline prices and shortages in British Columbia and a supply surplus on the Prairies if Alberta Premier Jason Kenney uses a newly proclaimed law to restrict fuel exports to its western neighbour, say industry experts and court documents.

“The one wild card factor that we really can’t predict is the political factor: would, in fact, the Alberta government actually put in effect, in practice, the curtailment of gasoline and diesel shipments from Alberta to the West Coast,” Michael Ervin, Kent Group Ltd., senior vice-president, said Thursday.

The Preserving Canada’s Economic Prosperity Act, the so-called turn-off-the taps law, was passed by the former Alberta government a year ago. Kenney’s United Conservatives proclaimed it as law this week and the threat to put the squeeze on B.C. is real, said Ervin, a petroleum market expert.

“The possibility of that certainly changed, increased since Premier Kenney has been elected into office,” he said in a telephone interview from Sidney, B.C.

Ervin said he expected gasoline prices in B.C. to jump by at least 10 cents per litre if Alberta started restricting fuel supplies. He said oil companies in Alberta may also feel the pinch because their B.C. customers will be cut off, creating a surplus there.

The B.C. government immediately moved to have Alberta’s law declared unconstitutional with a legal challenge, claiming “the central purpose and legal effect of the act is to authorize and provide for discrimination against British Columbia in relation to exports of natural gas, crude oil and refined fuels.”

An initial hearing is set for May 7 in Calgary.

https://vancouversun.com/business/e...-makes-gas-price-jumps-and-shortages-real/amp

this is the best idea possible.

I have said since the start and before Trudeau got elected that this would never be built if the core Native groups did not see healthy participation in the ongoing Revenues of this project. It was never about the 'ecology' and always about the 'revenue share'.

 

[Arkain2K]

this is the best idea possible.

I have said since the start and before Trudeau got elected that this would never be built if the core Native groups did not see healthy participation in the ongoing Revenues of this project. It was never about the 'ecology' and always about the 'revenue share'.

When the shit first hit the fan, the Canadian media pretty much painted the scenario as First Nations vs. Fossil Fuel.

It's not until much later that it became clear that most of the tribes who loudly protest against the pipeline are in B.C, while hundreds of tribes that actually live along the pipeline route actually support it and already signed revenue sharing deals with Kinder Morgan to get their piece of the pie.

If Trudeau have any functioning brain cells left, he should latch on the fact that there are so many more natives supporting the pipeline than against, and let the supporting tribes invest as well as become the face of the TMX project.

Until then, us Americans will continue buying Canadian crude at half-price, 'cause they couldn't export it to anyone else.

 

[MikeMcMann]

When the shit first hit the fan, the Canadian media pretty much painted the scenario as First Nations vs. Fossil Fuel.

It's not until much later that it became clear that most of the tribes who loudly protest against the pipeline are in B.C, while hundreds of tribes that actually live along the pipeline route actually support it and already signed revenue sharing deals with Kinder Morgan to get their piece of the pie.

If Trudeau have any functioning brain cells left, he should latch on the fact that there are so many more natives supporting the pipeline than against, and let the supporting tribes invest as well as become the face of the TMX project.

it has always been about money. The BC gov'ts opposition would go away if they could get a Churchill Falls Power deal like Quebec got that gave Quebec the majority of the benefit of the hydro electric project and screwed over Newfoundland despite the resource being located in NFLD.

 

[Arkain2K]

B.C. is getting what it wanted, and it sure doesn't like it
Kelly McParland | May 2, 2019

A billboard erected by Liberals on the Alex Fraser Bridge in Surrey, B.C., blames Premier John Horgan for the high prices at gas pumps in the province.​

How rich is it that the province of British Columbia, which has done so much to prevent Alberta from shipping more oil, has gone to court to force that province to keep sending as much of the stuff as possible?

If B.C. Premier John Horgan has any grasp of irony at all — not to mention a sense of the truly ridiculous — he must look in the mirror and see Jim Carrey. It would take the sort of mind behind the creation of Ace Ventura to fully appreciate the absurdity of the position B.C. has manufactured for itself thanks to its determined posturing and preaching on the matter of oil pipelines and climate change.

Horgan’s government went to court Wednesday to shake its fist at Alberta, insisting that new Premier Jason Kenney has violated the constitution by proclaiming a new law enabling him to shut off the taps that send oil to B.C.

Horgan’s New Democrats claim the law should be rejected because it targets just one province: theirs. Of course, since the pipeline in question only goes to one province — there being no other provinces between Alberta and the Pacific — it would be impossible for it to do otherwise. And Alberta has been making the exact same argument about Ottawa’s Bill C-48, which would place limits on tanker traffic along the B.C. coast, which Alberta says is a single-minded attack on its energy industry, and which enacts restrictions that apply to one coast but not the other.

Horgan became premier just under two years ago, and has had all that time to get along with Rachel Notley, a fellow New Democrat who served as Alberta’s premier until Kenney displaced her two weeks ago. He couldn’t manage it. Notley was a big champion of measures to protect the environment and reduce Alberta’s outsized production of greenhouse-gas emissions. She couldn’t do it alone, however, and needed co-operation from like-minded leftists like Horgan and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. They both failed her, Horgan spectacularly so. By doing all he could to obstruct the Trans Mountain pipeline, he significantly impeded efforts to revive Alberta’s economy and win public support for other emissions-reduction programs. That in turn fed the discontent that resulted in Kenney’s defeat of Notley and support for his pledge to play just as nasty as B.C. has been doing.

So now Horgan finds himself demanding the courts find a way to rescue him. His position could stand as a study in paradox. A province that enjoys its self-image as a bastion of green awareness — it has even positioned the Green party as a prop to support Horgan’s NDP — has discovered that a reduced supply of the oil and gas it so dislikes can have the effect of pushing up prices. In parts of the province a litre has recently gone for $1.70, which can mean an expensive fill up even for moderately efficient vehicles.

B.C. has had a carbon tax for more than a decade, and the core argument for a carbon tax is that higher prices help reduce consumption. That being the case, Vancouverites should be celebrating in the streets at the run-up in prices, as it would seem certain to get people out of their cars for all but the most essential travel. No more cruising around the mountains to enjoy the scenery, no more quick trips to the ski slopes, no more topping up the boat for a jaunt around the islands. Who needs that stuff when the environment is at risk?

Unfortunately, Horgan appears to lack the courage of his convictions, and now wants the taps opened wide, and kept that way. In its court filing, B.C. says obtaining fuel is a complex business, and that complexity precludes it from quickly finding another source. These are the same people, mind, who have insisted for years that oil is a dirty commodity that is wholly unnecessary, given the ready availability of alternatives in the wind and the sun.

Crude needs to be refined before it becomes gasoline, and Horgan is also now championing an increase in refining capacity, even though refineries are noted emitters of the climate-changing gases on which the NDP and its fellow “progressives” have mounted a decades-long moral crusade. Horgan wants Ottawa to ensure more refined product comes B.C.’s way, and thinks Alberta might be just the place for an increase in capacity. He’s also not entirely opposed — not at the moment, anyway — to a $22-billion proposal to build a refinery in B.C. that has been gathering dust while politicians turned up their noses at anything so contrary to their preferred posturing. “I look forward to (entrepreneur David Black) entering the regulatory process to see if he has the wherewithal, in terms of capital, in terms of expertise, to pull that off,” Horgan commented recently.

Almost as amusing as watching Horgan pretzelize himself as he struggles to make past positions marry with current contortions is the speed with which allied camps have sought other explanations for the situation, and fanciful remedies.

The CBC quotes Marc Lee, a senior economist with the left-wing Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, as promoting a maximum price on gasoline, which of course directly contradicts the point of carbon taxes, and encourages consumption rather than discouraging it. He sees that old villain, price gouging, as the real culprit, and advocates the old solution: tell them to stop!

“There’s a lot of money leaving Vancouver and going to Alberta. I think it’s time for governments to step in and regulate this market,” Lee said.

But of course. Regulate prices. Just look at how successful regulated gas prices have been in places like Venezuela, where you could fill your car for about 38 cents a litre last year. Or Nigeria, where even today you can get a litre for about 52 cents. Now, those are places that understand the marketplace, and the fight against emissions.

You don’t really have to make fun of governments like Horgan’s and their bad ideas. Eventually they do it themselves.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ke...ing-what-it-wanted-and-it-sure-doesnt-like-it

 

[Devout Pessimist]

B.C. is getting what it wanted, and it sure doesn't like it
Kelly McParland | May 2, 2019

A billboard erected by Liberals on the Alex Fraser Bridge in Surrey, B.C., blames Premier John Horgan for the high prices at gas pumps in the province.​

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ke...ing-what-it-wanted-and-it-sure-doesnt-like-it

BC voters deserve a lot of blame in this. The voters knew what they were voting for in the NDP and now they are whining when they got what they wanted.

 

[Snackbar]

B.C. is getting what it wanted, and it sure doesn't like it
Kelly McParland | May 2, 2019

A billboard erected by Liberals on the Alex Fraser Bridge in Surrey, B.C., blames Premier John Horgan for the high prices at gas pumps in the province.​

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ke...ing-what-it-wanted-and-it-sure-doesnt-like-it

I hope it breaks $2/litre this summer.
Everyone wants to fight climate change, so long as it is someone else's wallet doing the heavy lifting.

 

[Arkain2K]

Canada has the 3rd largest proven oil reserve in the world. Oil is more plentiful in Canada than Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, or Russia.

I just did a quick conversion and figured out that the 1.70 CAD/liter gas price in BC is approximately 5 USD/gallon.

Who needs OPEC when you can screw yourselves over at the pump, eh?

 

[TUFNewb]

Canada has the 3rd largest proven oil reserve in the world. Oil is more plentiful in Canada than Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, or Russia.

I just did a quick conversion and figured out that the 1.70 CAD/liter gas price in BC is approximately 5 USD/gallon.

Who needs OPEC when you can screw yourselves over at the pump, eh?

It is plentiful but on the bottom of the production cost totem poll. Very likely most of that will stay as sand in the ground.

But yep pretty harsh for BC drivers. Not enough refinery capacity, not enough pipeline capacity, CAD is low, summer driving season, and of course the consumer gotta get gouged at the pumps. It is turning into the perfect storm, especially if new Alberta government gives BC Putin's Ukrainian Special and cuts them off.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Canada has the 3rd largest proven oil reserve in the world. Oil is more plentiful in Canada than Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, or Russia.

I just did a quick conversion and figured out that the 1.70 CAD/liter gas price in BC is approximately 5 USD/gallon.

Who needs OPEC when you can screw yourselves over at the pump, eh?

The biggest irony is that the demonization and fight against Alberta Oil is proven to be by Big US OIl and Big Natural Gas interests in BC and other such parties. They are funding organizations like The David Suzuki FOundation and the Native Groups to oppose it so they can benefit.

Yes Canada has a massive Oil reserve for a small country population wise, but big US Oil makes more profit off Canadian Oil than Canadians do.

And again, ironically. all these efforts make AB oil less environmentally friendly. It means MORE greenhouse gases, not less but ignorant Canadians gonna ignorant. Give them a feel good story, even if a lie and they will eat it up. The term 'useful idiots' does not go far enough to describe the Canadians duped into opposing this to the countries and their own detriment.

It is truly tragic as instead Canada could have kept those profits in the country and continued to force and pressure the industry to improve technologies and reduce emissions in way that would improve the industry worldwide.

Following the big US money behind Canadian pipeline protests

$13 Million Paid to the David Suzuki's Foundation from U.S. Sources

 

[lifelessheap]

The biggest irony is that the demonization and fight against Alberta Oil is proven to be by Big US OIl and Big Natural Gas interests in BC and other such parties. They are funding organizations like The David Suzuki FOundation and the Native Groups to oppose it so they can benefit.

Yes Canada has a massive Oil reserve for a small country population wise, but big US Oil makes more profit off Canadian Oil than Canadians do.

And again, ironically. all these efforts make AB oil less environmentally friendly. It means MORE greenhouse gases, not less but ignorant Canadians gonna ignorant. Give them a feel good story, even if a lie and they will eat it up. The term 'useful idiots' does not go far enough to describe the Canadians duped into opposing this to the countries and their own detriment.

It is truly tragic as instead Canada could have kept those profits in the country and continued to force and pressure the industry to improve technologies and reduce emissions in way that would improve the industry worldwide.

Following the big US money behind Canadian pipeline protests

$13 Million Paid to the David Suzuki's Foundation from U.S. Sources

Blame ignorant Leftists who piss in the wind and complain about getting wet.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Blame ignorant Leftists who piss in the wind and complain about getting wet.

It really pisses me off to see just how short-sighted lefties are. They will vote in any idiot who condemns Alberta oil, virtue-signals over climate change and promises some kind of vague alternative energy, green utopia and then cry when they see the consequences of their foolishness after the government they voted in tanks the economy. Lefties never seem to understand that you need a strong economy in order to invest in technological innovation and alternative energy research. It is difficult to change anything for the better when your economy is in the dumps and people are struggling to meet basic needs.

 

[Snackbar]

It really pisses me off to see just how short-sighted lefties are. They will vote in any idiot who condemns Alberta oil, virtue-signals over climate change and promises some kind of vague alternative energy, green utopia and then cry when they see the consequences of their foolishness after the government they voted in tanks the economy. Lefties never seem to understand that you need a strong economy in order to invest in technological innovation and alternative energy research. It is difficult to change anything for the better when your economy is in the dumps and people are struggling to meet basic needs.

A little off topic but have you seen the coverage of the Nanaimo by-election? CBC and others are reporting this as proof of the end for both conservatives and liberals. A total of 2 greens seats federally and it is proof that the majority of Canadians support the green agenda.

 

[JonesBones]

Oil interests me. I own a bunch. American of course, including Chevron.

After being politically hammered over the issue for weeks, B.C. Premier John Horgan has asked the B.C. Utilities Commission (BCUC) if the body will consider investigating why gas prices in the province have soared in comparison to the rest of the country.

In a letter sent to the regulator on Tuesday, Horgan said British Columbians — particularly those in Metro Vancouver and on Vancouver Island — are used to higher gas prices compared to other provinces, but not to this extent.

Gas prices have been hovering around a record-high of $1.70 in Metro Vancouver since mid-April.

"What British Columbians do not understand and cannot accept is a situation where the price of gasoline, correcting for differences in tax rates, gets increasingly out of line with the prices in the rest of Canada," Horgan wrote.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...ices-horgan-bc-utilities-commission-1.5126311

 

[Devout Pessimist]

A little off topic but have you seen the coverage of the Nanaimo by-election? CBC and others are reporting this as proof of the end for both conservatives and liberals. A total of 2 greens seats federally and it is proof that the majority of Canadians support the green agenda.

I have been paying some attention. My dad and I were talking about how ridiculous the talk of a Green Party Revolution! is after the Green party gained only a second seat in parliament. It is a revolution when the green party wins two seats in parliament (Two Seats! <Lmaoo>), but people cry alt-right, white-supremacist, racism when the conservatives are elected in 6 provinces. Where is the talk of a conservative revolution?

 

[MikeMcMann]

It really pisses me off to see just how short-sighted lefties are. They will vote in any idiot who condemns Alberta oil, virtue-signals over climate change and promises some kind of vague alternative energy, green utopia and then cry when they see the consequences of their foolishness after the government they voted in tanks the economy. Lefties never seem to understand that you need a strong economy in order to invest in technological innovation and alternative energy research. It is difficult to change anything for the better when your economy is in the dumps and people are struggling to meet basic needs.

People are just dumb and short sighted.

Quebec loves the Transfer Payments they get that fund them having the most generous social services of any Province. They are literally paid for by Provinces who do not have the same lavish services. Quebec loves the money they take out of the very controversial Churchill Damn project that royally screwed Newfoundlanders for decades (and still) leaving them much poorer and yet many of the same Quebecois show true disdain for the Provinces (AB and NFLD, and even Ont) who provide the bulk of that money to them.

I think there is a psychology that makes the welfare recipient often demonize and hate the welfare giver. 'They are bad and take advantage of me and I DESERVE this money and am only taking what is mine. Don't look down on me as a beggar!' and i say this loving Quebec but their clear disdain and desire and vote to always try to hurt AB economy as much as possible when I think no Province has given more to Quebec than AB (maybe ONT) is shocking.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

it has always been about money. The BC gov'ts opposition would go away if they could get a Churchill Falls Power deal like Quebec got that gave Quebec the majority of the benefit of the hydro electric project and screwed over Newfoundland despite the resource being located in NFLD.

Historically, our Newfoundland politicians have done nothing but make bad deals and fuck us over. The Churchill Falls deal was brutal.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Oil interests me. I own a bunch. American of course, including Chevron.

After being politically hammered over the issue for weeks, B.C. Premier John Horgan has asked the B.C. Utilities Commission (BCUC) if the body will consider investigating why gas prices in the province have soared in comparison to the rest of the country.

In a letter sent to the regulator on Tuesday, Horgan said British Columbians — particularly those in Metro Vancouver and on Vancouver Island — are used to higher gas prices compared to other provinces, but not to this extent.

Gas prices have been hovering around a record-high of $1.70 in Metro Vancouver since mid-April.

"What British Columbians do not understand and cannot accept is a situation where the price of gasoline, correcting for differences in tax rates, gets increasingly out of line with the prices in the rest of Canada," Horgan wrote.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...ices-horgan-bc-utilities-commission-1.5126311

haha,

But yes what British Columbians CAN understand is doing everything to try and screw Alberta and to drive their costs up and out of line with the rest of Canada while saying 'but don't pass on any of that increased cost to us'. FLOL.