Stipe Miocic: Average Striking, Average Wrestiing, Below Average Subs, Average Speed, Good Gas Tank.

[LilNicky95]

This is NO hate thread, Stipe is solid and to be respected for overachieving but as far as skill-set....

I think the thread title about sums it up. Where does he really excel?

The appropriate comparison would be the HW Rich Franklin. Another OHIO guy.

Hard working, Solid, Cardio, delivers results IN THE UFC’s BELOW AVERAGE HW LANDSCAPE...but.....does not pass the eye test.


Even the most staunch Stipe supporters(All 2 or 3 of them) can not argue this at all.

Where does he stand out that would even qualify him as the “Baddest Man” nonsense.

“Evolution of MMA, EVOLUTION OF MMA” ~

Come at me bro.

 

[pankrat]

Yet another clueless shertard IMHO

"The appropriate comparison would be the HW Rich Franklin. Another OHIO guy."

 

[BonesWinckleJones]

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come at me

 

[PitDoggMMA]

This is NO hate thread, Stipe is solid and to be respected for overachieving but as far as skill-set....

I think the thread title about sums it up. Where does he really excel?

The appropriate comparison would be the HW Rich Franklin. Another OHIO guy.

Hard working, Solid, Cardio, delivers results but.....does not pass the eye test.


Even the most staunch Stipe supporters(All 2 or 3 of them) can not argue this at all.

Where does he stand out that would even qualify him as the “Baddest Man” nonsense.

“Evolution of MMA, EVOLUTION OF MMA” ~

Come at me bro.

This post shows a lack of intelligence on your part, which is not surprising as INTELLIGENCE/FIGHT IQ are Stipe's greatest points (which you completely miss).

Stipe's greatest point is the fact he quickly, and accurately, assesses how to beat his opponent. In other words Fight IQ "live, on stage."

Stipe is also quick for a heavyweight, and he doesn't wind up on his punches, trying to kill anyone. Instead, he lets his hands go freely, with proper form, and with minimum energy expenditure.

Stipe has good instincts, and he is also fearless. For example, where everybody else backs away from Francis Ngannou, Stipe took it to his ass, accurately read & immediately-exposed his weaknesses, and eventually broke Ngannou's little spirit.

I just said all this in another post, but I think it is now well established that Cormier's KO was a fluke, not to be repeated again.

Stipe may not be "great" at anything, but he is really good at everything.

I will again repeat: he has no fear of any opponent ... and he uses proper, effortless technique, quickly developing/executing his game plan, while assessing his opponents in real time, right there as it's all happening. I think Stipe has the best natural instincts of any heavyweight out there right now.

EDIT: I will also add that Stipe's fight IQ is what will prove to be Jones' downfall, should the two ever face each other. Jones will have met his match in this regard, in a bigger stronger opponent.

 

[kellenn]

For HW MMA standards he's a great wrestler and great striker

stfu

You're a known Fedor fanboy so this level of idiocy isn't surprising

 

[TempleoftheDog]

He’s a many time defending champ in a division that has never had a long time many time defending champ. That stands out to me. He has to be above average in a lot of things or he wouldn’t be in his position.

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

His striking, wrestling, speed, power, cardio and fight IQ are all well above average. I'd argue he is the best at certain things, and among the best in many others. His BJJ isn't that great, but it's not needed when you're already a great wrestler and striker with KO power and good cardio.

 

[machidafan99]

I give him a B+ in every main category

 

[I Lie To Girls]

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come at me

Anyone of those guys in their 20's?

 

[Fatback96]

Also average/low fight IQ. He literally forgot to use the body shots after 2 rounds of their third fight.

 

[I Lie To Girls]

His striking, wrestling, speed, power, cardio and fight IQ are all well above average. I'd argue he is the best at certain things, and among the best in many others. His BJJ isn't that great, but it's not needed when you're already a great wrestler and striker with KO power and good cardio.

He's not a great wrestler. He's a good grappler that walks people to the cage. Thats it.

 

[DOMMA]

Great cardio, great chin, great TD defense, solid stand-up, high fight IQ, solid wrestling, great in the clinch. Has definitely improved over the years in all areas. He has faced the best heavyweights in the world and is the current champ.

 

[TheMessiah]

He's good everywhere but doesn't excel at anything. Would still rank him.Top 5 HW

 

[BonesWinckleJones]

Anyone of those guys in their 20's?

but stipe most notable wins he was older than 30

 

[machidafan99]

He's not a great wrestler. He's a good grappler that walks people to the cage. Thats it.

BS Div 1 wrestling is great. It's basically professional, you get partial or full scholarship as payment

 

[I Lie To Girls]

but stipe most notable wins he was older than 30

K

 

[SirRealKiller]

Stipe is one of the best strikers in the HWT division, one of the better wrestlers, has a great chin, and High fight IQ. Don't undersell his greatness just because he's not an athletic freak.

 

[Shaddows]

This is NO hate thread, Stipe is solid and to be respected for overachieving but as far as skill-set....

I think the thread title about sums it up. Where does he really excel?

The appropriate comparison would be the HW Rich Franklin. Another OHIO guy.

Hard working, Solid, Cardio, delivers results but.....does not pass the eye test.


Even the most staunch Stipe supporters(All 2 or 3 of them) can not argue this at all.

Where does he stand out that would even qualify him as the “Baddest Man” nonsense.

“Evolution of MMA, EVOLUTION OF MMA” ~

Come at me bro.

WTF??? Are you seriously that much of an ignorant blind hater?

"average striking"
Getting it from Wikipedia, so I get this right: "...After only eight months of training with a background of being a Cleveland Golden Gloves boxing champion (reaching quarter-final in the nationals)"...

"average Wrestling"
He is an NCAA Division I wrestler at Cleveland State

From the above alone, it shows you have no clue how good Stipe is, but you are far too quick to diss the guy.

You are just one more ignorant fool with an opinion that unfortunately clutter these boards...

 

[OneManGang]

Eloquent speaker. Articulate and charismatic. Unique charm.

 

[SirRealKiller]

WTF??? Are you seriously that much of an ignorant blind hater?

"average striking"
Getting it from Wikipedia, so I get this right: "...After only eight months of training with a background of being a Cleveland Golden Gloves boxing champion (reaching quarter-final in the nationals)"...

"average Wrestling"
He is an NCAA Division I wrestler at Cleveland State

From the above alone, it shows you have no clue how good Stipe is, but you are far too quick to diss the guy.

You are just one more ignorant fool with an opinion that unfortunately clutter these boards...

People constantly act like Stipe is some sort of jackass that started fighting at bars and ended up in the UFC from some backyard brawl youtube vid.

Dude has legit boxing and wrestling. No, he doesn't have fast hands but he's accurate, has power and overall good technique. Clearly, being a dvision 1 wrestler is more than most HWTs can claim.