Dana and Pride president meet

Watching now. I think he’s right about DREAM and Sengoku not being able to connect to the Japanese audience, but it might be a bit more complicated than that because Rizin doesn’t seem to have jumped the hurdles either. Rizin is about to last longer than both aforementioned promotions combined though, so he’s doing something right.

PRIDE was good, and it isn’t just nostalgia speaking.
 
but it might be a bit more complicated than that because Rizin doesn’t seem to have jumped the hurdles either. .
Based on what? Rizin has done an incredible job with social media.

Mikuru Asakura has 2 million youtube subscribers
Kai Asakura has 1 million youtube subscribers
Numerous fights of Kai, Mikuru, Horiguchi, Nasukawa all have millions of youtube views.
 
I don't know if I should find it hilarious or sad that 14 years later people are still talking about PRIDE.

Imagine if we had more people wanting 1996 UFC style events back again or maybe making a thread about how good royce really was and how he could beat modern day fighters, most wouldn't even dare. Try the same with 2005 era UFC. Same results.

Man thinking back to 2004-2006, it was a great era for MMA with PRIDE leading the way
 
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What is up with that painting behind Dana?
 
Rizin has done great on social media. Those fighters built their own audience though through their own bits.

The ratings are not what they’ve wanted (you can talk about the media shift all day, Japanese people still sit in front of the telly), globally fans don’t care, and even though they’re where they want to be as far as sustainability…it’s still haunted by the so called ‘ghost of pride’.

He just like any other promoter — you don’t bring in Mayweather unless you want to make an impact on executives, sponsors, make history/impact. Doesn’t just want to be a feeder org. for up and coming fighters.

@EndlessCritic
 
Pride had real identity as a promotion, and was able to give life to its fighters careers. The UFC is known for "face the pain" and praying for another Conor Mcgregor to emerge because they spent time to promote Kevin Lee as the new big thing.
 
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PRIDE > ALL

Warriors not business men, and also the rule set was > ALL other promotions as far as realism matters.
You don't do takedown attempts in the street without paying for every failed attempt ( knees, kicks ... ) and soccer kicking a grounded opponent is the 1st thing most do once an opponent is floored in a real fight.
Neither does a ref prevent you from punishing someone with kicks/knees to the dome because you put a hand on the ground after a failed takedown ( or even just because you are rocked )
That rule set also provided us more finishes.

I'm glad I got to follow that magnificient epoch live though.
These are my best MMA memories and the atmosphere was unique back then.

Real " LARGER THAN LIFE " promotion and fighters
 
I don't know if I should find it hilarious or sad that 14 years later people are still talking about PRIDE.

Imagine if we had more people wanting 1996 UFC style events back again or maybe making a thread about how good royce really was and how he could beat modern day fighters, most wouldn't even dare. Try the same with 2005 era UFC. Same results.

Man thinking back to 2004-2006, it was a great era for MMA with PRIDE leading the way

PRIDE NEVER DIE, bitch.

People praise and talk about boxing legends of old. Wrestling legends of old.

One thing I loved about the early UFCs is you didn't have time to study your opponent and watch tape to form a game plan.

It was really style vs style, fighter vs fighter.

Also UFC sent over a few of their top fighters during the "great era" and they did ok but also got fucked up.
 
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